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10-14-2013, 11:37 AM
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Shoulda waived braindead dorsett.

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10-14-2013, 11:39 AM
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Thought Asham has played well lately..
Asham is a very likable hockey player, I wish he'd made it with the team, but the dude has lost his legs.

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10-14-2013, 11:44 AM
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Who replaces them?
I mean......you can probably go to Chelsea Piers and find better players.

I wish this thread read: Rangers owner Jim Dolan puts Sather, the coaching staff, and entire team on waivers.

God, now I have to watch basketball this year cuz the Rangers are gonna be so bad....so, so bad. So bad...

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Good.

They need more speed and tenacity in the line-up and Marty has lost it. I hope they are claimed. (2) less contracts on the books.

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10-14-2013, 11:45 AM
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Asham is a very likable hockey player, I wish he'd made it with the team, but the dude has lost his legs.
I like Asham too, but I agree. I was hoping Powe would have grabbed that final FW spot based only on his ability to kill pens to give Callahan a break.

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10-14-2013, 11:47 AM
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did not nothing expect that to happen so fast... definitely smells like AV pulled the trigger. Marty's five hole is just too big...

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10-14-2013, 11:50 AM
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I think Sather and the staff told AV to give some of these guys already signed a "shot". He has deemed the past (5) games as their "shot" with little to no results.

I wouldn't be surprised if more of this happens relatively soon.

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10-14-2013, 11:50 AM
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Happy for Cam Talbot.

Bringing up Kreider or Miller would be idiotic at this point, however. A brazen disregard and respect for the development of these players.

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10-14-2013, 11:51 AM
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Happy for Cam Talbot.

Bringing up Kreider or Miller would be idiotic at this point, however. A brazen disregard and respect for the development of these players.
I don't like the idea of Miller or Kreider, but someone like Haley may be an option, no?

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Calling up Miller or Kreider to this mess would be a huge mistake. Would be classic Ranger mismanagement.

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10-14-2013, 11:53 AM
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Not like any of this will make any kind of difference.

Our backup and our fighter are not why this team has sucked donkey kong so far.

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10-14-2013, 11:54 AM
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Clean slate, desecrate.

See ya ol' stinky.

Hopefully they do not call someone up, maybe Hagelin will come back early.

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Calling up Miller or Kreider to this mess would be a huge mistake. Would be classic Ranger mismanagement.
Calling up Miller or Kreider to get 12-15 minutes a game would be a good idea. 5-7 is not.

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10-14-2013, 12:00 PM
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Calling up Miller or Kreider to get 12-15 minutes a game would be a good idea. 5-7 is not.
I'm not even sure about that. The Rangers are having a difficult time with the basic tasks of completing a pass, breaking out of their own end, and sustaining a forecheck. Miller and Kreider would be much better served developmentally by staying in the AHL where the team has a good environment, to perfect their reads and be go to offensive players getting lots of PP time. Most importantly building confidence.

Then when the team is in better shape around midseason you think about calling them up.

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I don't like the idea of Miller or Kreider, but someone like Haley may be an option, no?
Sure, why not. Whatever.

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10-14-2013, 12:01 PM
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Put me on the Haley bandwagon.

I think this coaching staff also likes Mashinter, so maybe he gets a turn.

Would prefer both these guys over Kreider and Miller. Give them more time in CT to build a game and confidence.

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I don't like the idea of Miller or Kreider, but someone like Haley may be an option, no?
I need an explanation for this opinion. Legitimately confused here.

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I'm not even sure about that. The Rangers are having a difficult time with the basic tasks of completing a pass, breaking out of their own end, and sustaining a forecheck. Miller and Kreider would be much better served developmentally by staying in the AHL where the team has a good environment, to perfect their reads and be go to offensive players getting lots of PP time.
Maybe they can be part of bringing that to the team?

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I think it will be Kreider. Miller needs a little more work.

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Calling up Miller or Kreider to get 12-15 minutes a game would be a good idea. 5-7 is not.
The yo-yo has to stop with these guys. Let them play for a sustained period in the AHL if you want the best for them.

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Calling up Miller or Kreider to get 12-15 minutes a game would be a good idea. 5-7 is not.
Agreed, and I see no reason with doing that. They ARE ready, just PLAY them. Enough with the organization babying them. They are young MEN. Let them play.

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10-14-2013, 12:03 PM
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I need an explanation for this opinion. Legitimately confused here.
If they are only looking to replace Asham, a 4th liner getting 5 minutes a night, with another 4th liner getting 5 minutes a night, Haley could be an option. He skates better and is a better hitter.

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I think it will be Kreider. Miller needs a little more work.
Disagree. I think Miller is the better NHL'er right now.

Although I think neither are NHL-ready

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I need an explanation for this opinion. Legitimately confused here.
I know you didn't quote me, but as I agree with the poster you quoted, I'll provide my thoughts.

I think Miller is nowhere near ready. He shows nearly nothing in regular season NHL games. I find myself surprisingly in the high minority in that thought though.

For Kreider, it's a confidence issue. The coaching staff ****ed with him all year last season. Up and down, up and down. Let him get into the swing of things in CT, and see what that does to his game.

A guy like Haley or Mashinter can come up and contribute on the fourth line. And we're not killing their development by playing them 10 or less minutes a night.

The thing is, whoever gets called up from CT right now to replace Asham (if anyone, remember, he's already cleared waivers this season and was not sent down) isn't going to step right into the top-6, where Kreider would need to play. Playing CK 12 or less minutes a night on the third line isn't what he needs right now.

Let him get 22 a night in CT in all situations.

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If they are only looking to replace Asham, a 4th liner getting 5 minutes a night, with another 4th liner getting 5 minutes a night, Haley could be an option. He skates better and is a better hitter.
I was hoping it was in place of Boyle & Pyatt. Both are huge wastes of roster space that could be filled with actual scoring talent.

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