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10-14-2013, 03:07 AM
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Sorry, lots more wrong with this team (so far) then just the goalie. Thier were a lot of times that the team was effortless, disorganized, and the same old crap we have seen for way too long.
Actually it's really only been the one game that was effortless. And even then it might not have been if Dubnyk could make a save.

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10-14-2013, 12:34 PM
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Having Yak sit out a second game in a row is a nonsense move. That's what you get for hiring a rookie coach (again). This organization is a mess.

I'm calling for 6 coaches in 7 years. I wonder who gets the job next year. My guess is KLowe thinks we are far enough way from his disaster years that MacT will be head coach next year and co-GM, while KLowe will take on the 'official' title of co-GM.

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10-14-2013, 12:41 PM
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Having Yak sit out a second game in a row is a nonsense move. That's what you get for hiring a rookie coach (again). This organization is a mess.

I'm calling for 6 coaches in 7 years. I wonder who gets the job next year. My guess is KLowe thinks we are far enough way from his disaster years that MacT will be head coach next year and co-GM, while KLowe will take on the 'official' title of co-GM.
I'm not really sure why you'd change a lineup that essentially won the last game.

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I'm not really sure why you'd change a lineup that essentially won the last game.
The 3rd line was getting killed!

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The 3rd line was getting killed!
So it would be better defensively with Yakupov on it?

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10-14-2013, 12:52 PM
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Gone, have you burned your season tickets in disgust yet?

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I'm not really sure why you'd change a lineup that essentially won the last game.
I'm just going to quote some stats here:

-Leafs had the higher Corsi (outplayed the Oilers)
-Leafs had more Goals

Please explain how Edmonton "essentially won".

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10-14-2013, 01:04 PM
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I'm just going to quote some stats here:

-Leafs had the higher Corsi (outplayed the Oilers)
-Leafs had more Goals

Please explain how Edmonton "essentially won".
First of all, Corsi means nothing.

Secondly, we had the great equalizer.


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I'm not really sure why you'd change a lineup that essentially won the last game.
If they go on a five game win streak do you sit Yakupov for five more games?

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If they go on a five game win streak do you sit Yakupov for five more games?
No, it really depends on how those games are won and which lines have chemistry.

Smyth-Arco-Eberle had some pretty damn good chemistry last game.

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10-14-2013, 01:19 PM
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I'm just going to quote some stats here:

-Leafs had the higher Corsi (outplayed the Oilers)
-Leafs had more Goals

Please explain how Edmonton "essentially won".
Do you watch games or look at convoluted stats all game.

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10-14-2013, 09:35 PM
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Every game it starts to look like a bad hire, also he is running team like a warden ,no sweets , putting players in solitary confinement.

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10-14-2013, 09:43 PM
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Every game it starts to look like a bad hire, also he is running team like a warden ,no sweets , putting players in solitary confinement.
I'm not even an Eakins fan and I'd say its way too early to comment. The stubborn stars on this club predictably aren't even playing the system.

Not too surprisingly newcomers like Gordon, Perron, Joensuu, even Arco, are game in, game out being the best forwards on the club.

The kidstars still have a whole lot of crap to get out of their game.

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10-14-2013, 09:51 PM
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I think the kids are just confused as hell. 3 coaches in 3 years.

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I'm not even an Eakins fan and I'd say its way too early to comment. The stubborn stars on this club predictably aren't even playing the system.

Not too surprisingly newcomers like Gordon, Perron, Joensuu, even Arco, are game in, game out being the best forwards on the club.

The kidstars still have a whole lot of crap to get out of their game.
The kids constantly try to dangle like they're Datsyuk. Taylor Hall does it 2-3 times a game and it either ends in A) A crushing hit, or B) Loss of possession.

Eberle plays a perimeter game and cannot work the board without folding like a chair.

Yakupov cheats like he's in high school and is a 6th man for the other team without the puck.

And on top of it, they can't work the slot even a tiny bit. They constantly get squashed to the boards when they have possession, and while their cycle is getting better (Probably best improvement so far, sans Eberle), they have zero instinct for the net and all the shots are in the worst possible spot.

I have no clue if this is a system/coaching issue or if the kids are just that weak.

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10-14-2013, 09:53 PM
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I wish people would stop calling Hall and Eberle "kids". By NHL standards, they're not that young. It's really just giving them an excuse.

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10-14-2013, 09:59 PM
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So it would be better defensively with Yakupov on it?
At least it would of been in the offensive zone.

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10-14-2013, 10:00 PM
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At least it would of been in the offensive zone.
Are you sure about that?

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10-14-2013, 10:03 PM
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Essentially won the last game ? They allowed 6 goals !!!

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I think the kids are just confused as hell. 3 coaches in 3 years.
Exactly. I was of course concerned about that when the Eakins hire was announced. Could not understand it really. My specific concern is it set the table once again for the players not having to listen to any coach because, well, the coaches are expendable.

None of this is on Eakins either. Its a ****** situation to come into.

That said Eakins bench management is awful. Tonight was the first game of the year where his toi allotments were sane. He rolled back some of the outlandish minutes given to forwards and probably even he realized that RNH and Hall are quickly hitting a wall.

Repeat after me eakins, You can't play forwards 26mins a night in the NHL, you just can't. To add insult to misery he uses star players on pk which has also been blowing up in our face as we had a good pk before. One of the few good things about the club.
Eakins is very guilty of being the type to try things that others just don't do. like roll lines on pk. That can be just asking for trouble. Its why most people just use pk specialty units.

Eakins reinventing the wheel really needs to stop. He's out thinking himself.

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10-14-2013, 10:10 PM
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This team is clearly a work in progress. I'd like to see what Eakins can do over 82 game schedule. I expect the Oilers will finish outside the play-offs again, but hopefully there is a marked improvement over the course of the season.
Then let MacT go to work in the off-season--trade Hemsky, N.Schultz at trade deadline. Trade 1st rounder/Klefbom/Marincin for proven players; sign a goalie and a couple of gritty bottom 6 guys, pray that Nurse is ready to contribute next year.

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10-14-2013, 10:11 PM
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Eakins reminds me of another rookie coach the Oilers had in 94-95,George Burnett. He didn't last long coaching a terrible team that played with no emotion and I'm seeing the same type energy on this team.

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10-14-2013, 10:12 PM
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I agree 100% except the Eakins reinvention of the wheel is on him. Reinventing the wheel won't work, there is a reason forwards don't play half a game. Eakins can go on about fitness but the reality is the body doesn't recover in time at the pace they play.

The kids confidence is gone, they are not playing their game which is a hard net drive. They just don't look right. Confused. The coach wants them to play a certain way and I am not sure that message is being bought into.

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If Yak comes and scores 6 goals tomorrow, Eakins is a genius.

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Exactly. I was of course concerned about that when the Eakins hire was announced. Could not understand it really. My specific concern is it set the table once again for the players not having to listen to any coach because, well, the coaches are expendable.

None of this is on Eakins either. Its a ****** situation to come into.

That said Eakins bench management is awful. Tonight was the first game of the year where his toi allotments were sane. He rolled back some of the outlandish minutes given to forwards and probably even he realized that RNH and Hall are quickly hitting a wall.

Repeat after me eakins, You can't play forwards 26mins a night in the NHL, you just can't. To add insult to misery he uses star players on pk which has also been blowing up in our face as we had a good pk before. One of the few good things about the club.
Eakins is very guilty of being the type to try things that others just don't do. like roll lines on pk. That can be just asking for trouble. Its why most people just use pk specialty units.

Eakins reinventing the wheel really needs to stop. He's out thinking himself.
They dismantled last year's PK essentially: no Horcoff, Belanger, Petrell, Jones, Lander.
The only guy who is a competent PKer right now is Gordon, maybe Acton.

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