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10-14-2013, 01:46 PM
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You have no idea who the hell Jared Staal is.
Or who Jordan Eberle is.

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10-14-2013, 01:47 PM
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Or who Jordan Eberle is.
I think you mean Jared Eberle.

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10-14-2013, 01:49 PM
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Do you want to have a discussion or pick out strawmen?

Arco would have 40 NHL pts a year minimum playing with the likes of Hall and RNH all year every year. Arco is a fairly ordinary player.

Clearly Eberle is much more talented than Arco but one has to note how much elevation occurs due to playing with two number one in the world players.

Is this an unreasonable point to make?

How much inflation occurs in Eberles production. We really don't know, any of us.
Lol exactly what you're doing , answer this Eberle was CHL player of the year playing in Regina so obviously he played with great players to achieve this correct can't be any other way due to your philosphy So lets go see who his linemates were because they should be carving out solid careers right about now because you have stated Eberle is a product of his linemates. Stawman is very correct here Replacement.

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10-14-2013, 01:50 PM
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points, yes. that doesn't make him a better player or more needed on this team.


look guys, forget it. you like danglers, I don't. we have too many of them and not enough of everything else. you're never changing my mind.
You have to mean Jordan Staal right? Because Jarred Staal would clear waivers and if someone traded Jordan Eberle for that plug they would lose their job immediately while Carolina would be jumping for joy.

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10-14-2013, 01:51 PM
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I think you mean Jared Eberle.
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10-14-2013, 02:02 PM
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Lol exactly what you're doing , answer this Eberle was CHL player of the year playing in Regina so obviously he played with great players to achieve this correct can't be any other way due to your philosphy So lets go see who his linemates were because they should be carving out solid careers right about now because you have stated Eberle is a product of his linemates. Stawman is very correct here Replacement.
But he was drafted 22 in the draft. Late 1st round. Which is more reflective of his general worth?

This is a good, not great player. If he can be dealt at premium value for equal or better return of a player more needed on the team I would do it. Eberle value will not be higher than this. I think his value already peaked. We'll see.

Clearly we can't have the discussion on how a players stats is influenced by his teammates and you're not prepared to acknowledge that. My statement in that regard is reasonable. RNH and Hall add appreciable pts to Eberles resume.

Anyway its just discussion. If it can't be had reasonably I'll decline further response and stepdown.

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10-14-2013, 02:06 PM
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I think we can all remember Papa Staal saying Jared is the most talented of the Staal brothers.

He'd slot in nicely behind RNH

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10-14-2013, 02:08 PM
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Bolland/Neil over Eberle. Also, Jarrod Stall.

Gold, Jerry. Gold.



EDIT: Jarrod Stall is either the fifth Staal brother, or an accidental byproduct of Jared and Jarret Stoll in a lab somewhere undisclosed in Ontario.

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10-14-2013, 02:09 PM
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But he was drafted 22 in the draft. Late 1st round. Which is more reflective of his general worth?

This is a good, not great player. If he can be dealt at premium value for equal or better return of a player more needed on the team I would do it. Eberle value will not be higher than this. I think his value already peaked. We'll see.

Clearly we can't have the discussion on how a players stats is influenced by his teammates and you're not prepared to acknowledge that. My statement in that regard is reasonable. RNH and Hall add appreciable pts to Eberles resume.

Anyway its just discussion. If it can't be had reasonably I'll decline further response and stepdown.
Please don't use this as an argument, even in jest. Wasn't Jamie Benn drafted in like the 4th round? Never mind the Zetterberg/Datsyuk argument.

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10-14-2013, 02:13 PM
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But he was drafted 22 in the draft. Late 1st round. Which is more reflective of his general worth?

This is a good, not great player. If he can be dealt at premium value for equal or better return of a player more needed on the team I would do it. Eberle value will not be higher than this. I think his value already peaked. We'll see.

Clearly we can't have the discussion on how a players stats is influenced by his teammates and you're not prepared to acknowledge that. My statement in that regard is reasonable. RNH and Hall add appreciable pts to Eberles resume.

Anyway its just discussion. If it can't be had reasonably I'll decline further response and stepdown.
And he entered league same year as Hall lead Oilers in scoring next year with both Rnh and Hall lead team In ppg and scoring Last year plays with injury becomes a product of his linemates. And he was drafted year before CHL player of the year now go look at all the studs in the 3 junior Leagues that year and their Stud linemates.

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10-14-2013, 02:29 PM
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To Edmonton
Craig Anderson 3.18mill
Zack Smith 1.88mill
Eric Gryba .56
Total$ 5.62mill

To Ottawa
Jeff Petry 1.75mill
Luke Gazdic .63
Jason Labarbera 1.00mill
Ales Hemsky(with 2.5 mill held back) 2.5 mill
Total$ 5.88mill

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10-14-2013, 02:34 PM
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To Edmonton
Craig Anderson 3.18mill
Zack Smith 1.88mill
Eric Gryba .56
Total$ 5.62mill

To Ottawa
Jeff Petry 1.75mill
Luke Gazdic .63
Jason Labarbera 1.00mill
Ales Hemsky(with 2.5 mill held back) 2.5 mill
Total$ 5.88mill
Nope. As bad as our goaltending is, trading our best dman is a BAD idea

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10-14-2013, 02:48 PM
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Nope. As bad as our goaltending is, trading our best dman is a BAD idea
Considering you are willing to trade your 1st round pick and some prospects i can easily see you getting another player of Petry's skill or better back from another team. You can make more than 1 trade a year. Example Christian Ehrhoff from the Sabres.

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10-14-2013, 02:55 PM
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Nope. As bad as our goaltending is, trading our best dman is a BAD idea
And our best forward on the year to date.

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10-14-2013, 04:14 PM
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Dubnyk will be better.

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10-14-2013, 04:17 PM
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Dubnyk will be better.
He can't be much worse.

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Dubnyk will be better.
Pretty hard not to be? 5 gaa

I think everyone will agree with your statement. I feel like MacT answered the question about him being a legit #1 this summer. "If you are asking the question you already know the answer" maybe not word for word but something similar. I think that's the argument now a days.

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He can't be much worse.
I was just about to post this word for word.

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New GDT up and I think this has run its course.

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