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10-14-2013, 06:19 PM
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I don't know if this is the right place to ask but what if we buy out DD NEXT year...what would be his cap hit and how long would it be on there for?
1.17M for the next 6 years

http://capgeek.com/buyout-calculator...06&buyout_d=15

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10-14-2013, 06:26 PM
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DD and Briere have been about equally bad. It's a shame DD will never get this treatment, even with a logjam at C.
I can't be the only one to think about this. It fixes the DD, Briere & size down the middle problem!


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We could have kept a proven 25 goal producing forward in Michael Ryder and this is what we ended up with as a replacement? It was extremely dumb to take a declining little guy, we should have kept Ryder.
We could have kept power forward eric cole and not have to juggle lines to protect a clown car full of midgets.

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10-14-2013, 06:51 PM
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We could have kept power forward eric cole and not have to juggle lines to protect a clown car full of midgets.
That's what annoys me the most. We pretty much switched Cole for Briere.
Now, maybe there was more to it with Cole, but from the outside looking in, it just looks bad.

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10-14-2013, 06:52 PM
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I can't be the only one to think about this. It fixes the DD, Briere & size down the middle problem!

haahhahahahhahaha yea killed me right there.
DD+D.Brierre are like 5"10 together lol

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10-14-2013, 06:55 PM
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That's what annoys me the most. We pretty much switched Cole for Briere.
Now, maybe there was more to it with Cole, but from the outside looking in, it just looks bad.
Lol what? When we traded Cole everybody was happy with the trade, now we're gonna act like this was a bad move?

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10-14-2013, 06:58 PM
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Lol what? When we traded Cole everybody was happy with the trade, now we're gonna act like this was a bad move?
I guess that the idea was that it was going to be great move if we'd save the money and/or replace it with something better or more appropriate.....We replaced it with Brière making the move, just about the 2nd round pick now. Still a good move based on who we got. Doesn't fix the immediate needs though.

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10-14-2013, 07:02 PM
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Therrien is doing the best he can with a bad situation.

1) Neither DD or Briere deserve to be on one of the two top lines right now.
2) You can't play DD with Briere, because then their line is simply too small and too soft.
3) DD is at his best in the middle between two big wingers.
4) Scratching DD and/or Briere this early in the season would likely get the Quebec media up in arms. The team doesn't need that sort of distraction.

Add this altogether, and Therrien is probably taking the best approach he can - DD between Bourque and Prust on the third line, Briere on the fourth.

It sucks, because it means we don't have anything like a good energy/crash line. But at least DD/Bourque/Prust looked decent together, and the 4th line is just the 4th line.


Good news here is that Therrien sees what we're seeing, and realizes that DD and Briere have been terribly ineffective so far this season. He's making the best Top 2 lines he can, which is good.
The other thing is that demoting DD after his lone decent game of the season doesn't exactly send the good message either.

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I guess that the idea was that it was going to be great move if we'd save the money and/or replace it with something better or more appropriate.....We replaced it with Brière making the move, just about the 2nd round pick now. Still a good move based on who we got. Doesn't fix the immediate needs though.
Actually... Connor "Coco" Crisp is that player.

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10-14-2013, 07:21 PM
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Lol what? When we traded Cole everybody was happy with the trade, now we're gonna act like this was a bad move?
Yes, it was good based on the belief we were going to use the extra cap space appropriately. Now that we know we didn't, it kinda makes it worse.

It's all about the pick as WS said. But for our current team, it's just bad. It didn't help us at all. I actually would have preferred nobody over signing Briere, at least it could have given us some wiggle room for youngsters, and we'd have an extra 4M for in season adjustments or next summer.

It's not so much the issue of moving Cole, it's more about getting Briere. That made no sense.

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The organization is now taking the best French player available following the same pattern they use to pick a coach.

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10-14-2013, 07:28 PM
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Yes, it was good based on the belief we were going to use the extra cap space appropriately. Now that we know we didn't, it kinda makes it worse.

It's all about the pick as WS said. But for our current team, it's just bad. It didn't help us at all. I actually would have preferred nobody over signing Briere, at least it could have given us some wiggle room for youngsters, and we'd have an extra 4M for in season adjustments or next summer.

It's not so much the issue of moving Cole, it's more about getting Briere. That made no sense.
I see, I misinterpreted what you meant, I agree with with everything you wrote in that post.

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Yes, it was good based on the belief we were going to use the extra cap space appropriately. Now that we know we didn't, it kinda makes it worse.

It's all about the pick as WS said. But for our current team, it's just bad. It didn't help us at all. I actually would have preferred nobody over signing Briere, at least it could have given us some wiggle room for youngsters, and we'd have an extra 4M for in season adjustments or next summer.

It's not so much the issue of moving Cole, it's more about getting Briere. That made no sense.
Between Briere at 4 million, Cole at 4.5 million, and Ryder at 3.5 million, I think that Briere is my last choice.

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Actually... Connor "Coco" Crisp is that player.
True. 3rd rounder pick it was. Crisp could turn out to be something really valuable.

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Between Briere at 4 million, Cole at 4.5 million, and Ryder at 3.5 million, I think that Briere is my last choice.
I know you're saying that as if we had to choose one.
My point is that he would never make my list. Nobody would be my last option.

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Looks pretty good.
Imagine these lines :

Galchenyuk – Eller – Gallagher
Pacioretty –Plekanec– POWER FRWD
Bourque – DECCENT-GOOD CENTER– Prust
Moen – Bournival – Parros



NUMBER 2 D– Subban
Gorges – Emelin
Tinordi – Beaulieu

This roster is EASILY cup contender.
You remove Markov with Subban asking for a #2 d... He is exactly that.

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The organization is now taking the best French player available following the same pattern they use to pick a coach.
I don't want to believe this but the Briere signing went against all common sense. What other reason can there be on this one?

Then again, we did sign Samsonov so...

I think there's a smurf quota that we have to meet.

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I'd rather buy out DD for 1.17M and have Brière centering the 3rd line
I'd rather dump them both and have Galchenyuk center the 3rd...

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We should get a kick-starter going to pay for Desharnais' buyout.

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Really disappointed by his speed, or lack thereof. I thought Briere would be much faster, as small players usually are.

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I can't be the only one to think about this. It fixes the DD, Briere & size down the middle problem!

Excellent.

Redefines the meaning of "strap-on".

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We once had the Dandouillon

now we have Le Desrière


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I can't be the only one to think about this. It fixes the DD, Briere & size down the middle problem!

DD grabbing on Briere's hair is just so damn funny.

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Therrien is doing the best he can with a bad situation.

1) Neither DD or Briere deserve to be on one of the two top lines right now.
2) You can't play DD with Briere, because then their line is simply too small and too soft.
3) DD is at his best in the middle between two big wingers.
4) Scratching DD and/or Briere this early in the season would likely get the Quebec media up in arms. The team doesn't need that sort of distraction.

Add this altogether, and Therrien is probably taking the best approach he can - DD between Bourque and Prust on the third line, Briere on the fourth.

It sucks, because it means we don't have anything like a good energy/crash line. But at least DD/Bourque/Prust looked decent together, and the 4th line is just the 4th line.


Good news here is that Therrien sees what we're seeing, and realizes that DD and Briere have been terribly ineffective so far this season. He's making the best Top 2 lines he can, which is good.
Agreed, he's making a good job with that.

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10-15-2013, 03:10 AM
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Apparently...these were the lines at Oct.14 practice (so we have 2 TWO-WAY lines now?...the Pleks and Eller lines? two-way...that line that goes against the best opposing line,etc..... maybe two is better than one?!):


Galchenyuk – Plekanec – Gallagher
Pacioretty – Eller – Gionta
Bourque – Desharnais – Prust
Moen – Bournival – Brière
*White était l’attaquant en trop.
(White was extra attacker...13th forward).


Markov – Subban
Gorges – Diaz
Bouillon – Beaulieu (Tinordi)






Briere in interview (below in french) seemed to be very accepting about the demotion to the 4th line since he said other lines were clicking and with Gionta coming back it's only normal,etc. But like someone else wrote I'd prefer seeing Briere centering Prust and Bourque, but DD has the longer contract with us!! maybe trying to boost his trade value?!, but also...DD was playing well with Bourque and Prust.

''Brière a avoué que ce n’était pas une surprise pour lui : «Il y a que notre trio qui n’a pas bien joué à Vancouver contre les Canucks. Avec le retour de Gionta, je m’attendais à ce genre de scénario.»

«Ce n’est pas la fin du monde», a ajouté le principal intéressé.''

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Swap DD and Brière and I actually like those lines. That's at least 4 big bodies, 5 if you count Galchenyuk, on the top 9.

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