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10-14-2013, 10:15 PM
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I'd like to see Lander back up here over Acton. Not sure we need Brown in the line up either.

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What was the rationale for firing Krueger so quickly?

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What was the rationale for firing Krueger so quickly?
MacT thinking Eakins is the next Scotty Bowman and if we didn't sign him quick, somebody else would.

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This team is clearly a work in progress. I'd like to see what Eakins can do over 82 game schedule. I expect the Oilers will finish outside the play-offs again, but hopefully there is a marked improvement over the course of the season.
Then let MacT go to work in the off-season--trade Hemsky, N.Schultz at trade deadline. Trade 1st rounder/Klefbom/Marincin for proven players; sign a goalie and a couple of gritty bottom 6 guys, pray that Nurse is ready to contribute next year.
Sorry, but **** this ****. I'm tired of "works in progress."

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MacT thinking Eakins is the next Scotty Bowman and if we didn't sign him quick, somebody else would.
Given that both Vancouver and New York were interested in him...

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10-14-2013, 10:18 PM
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I wish people would stop calling Hall and Eberle "kids". By NHL standards, they're not that young. It's really just giving them an excuse.
Yes its really ****ing annoying. Hall and Eberle are in their 4th years in the league and are making 6 mil a year. They aren't kids. No more excuses.

Eakins needs to stop playing Justin Schutlz so much. He is one of the worst defencemen in the league in his own zone. Play him as a pp specialist with bottom pairing es minutes.

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10-14-2013, 10:20 PM
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If Yak comes and scores 6 goals tomorrow, Eakins is a genius.
Hell, if he scores a goal, something worked

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Yes its really ****ing annoying. Hall and Eberle are in their 4th years in the league and are making 6 mil a year. They aren't kids. No more excuses..
They are 22 and 21 and expected to carry a team. Excuse me but that's insane. They are not Crosby, Ovechkin or Gretzky. These are still very young players and cannot carry this team which has no C depth, a leaky D, poor goaltending, and a revolving door of coaches. They have to be frustrated.

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10-14-2013, 10:22 PM
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Eakins putting the 4th line out against Ovechkin was bush league. minor league coach with a minor league mentality.

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Whatever anyone thinks of Eakins.. He isn't getting fired. It would be beyond comical if we fired another coach.

So the boys better figure it out and MacT better get on the phone.

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10-14-2013, 10:23 PM
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Eakins putting the 4th line out against Ovechkin was bush league. minor league coach with a minor league mentality.
Washington had the last line change....

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They are 22 and 21 and expected to carry a team. Excuse me but that's insane. They are not Crosby, Ovechkin or Gretzky. These are still very young players and cannot carry this team which has no C depth, a leaky D, poor goaltending, and a revolving door of coaches. They have to be frustrated.
While I agree they aren't Crosby or Ovechkin, they are still expected to do SOMETHING. How old was Pat Kane when he won his first cup again? 21/22?

While there are definite holes on the team, the "stars" arent helping either.

Doesn't mean I would trade them away though

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10-14-2013, 10:25 PM
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What was the rationale for firing Krueger so quickly?
Krueger was garbage...never line-matched and didn't have enough NA coaching experience to get this team to the next level...routinely outshot and ill=prepared to start the game (something that's changed this year considering we've outshot opponents most games and scored 1st in 5 of 6 games)

Eakins>Krueger

now, clean up the PK and get a frigging goalie in here and give these guys a chance

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10-14-2013, 10:27 PM
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They are 22 and 21 and expected to carry a team. Excuse me but that's insane. They are not Crosby, Ovechkin or Gretzky. These are still very young players and cannot carry this team which has no C depth, a leaky D, poor goaltending, and a revolving door of coaches. They have to be frustrated.
Thats crap. They aren't Kane and Toews either? Or Tavares? Then what the hell are they? Are they star players or not? If not then what was this rebuild for?

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10-14-2013, 10:28 PM
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Washington had the last line change....
I'm positive the fourth line was put out there after Ovechkin was already on the ice. Than Ovechkin buried that scrub Brown and hell broke loose. Its a joke those losers were playing in a 4-1 loss. Its a joke those 3 are in the NHL

Thanks alot Keith

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I'm positive the fourth line was put out there after Ovechkin was already on the ice. Than Ovechkin buried that scrub Brown and hell broke loose. Its a joke those losers were playing in a 4-1 loss. Its a joke those 3 are in the NHL

Thanks alot Keith
Actually, considering that Brown and co put Ovi and some of his buddies in the penalty box, is that really such a bad thing?

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10-14-2013, 10:31 PM
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While I agree they aren't Crosby or Ovechkin, they are still expected to do SOMETHING. How old was Pat Kane when he won his first cup again? 21/22?

While there are definite holes on the team, the "stars" arent helping either.

Doesn't mean I would trade them away though
Look at the supporting cast Kane had. And the D. And the goalie. Kane was not expected to carry the team at 21.

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10-14-2013, 10:32 PM
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Thats crap. They aren't Kane and Toews either? Or Tavares? Then what the hell are they? Are they star players or not? If not then what was this rebuild for?
Star players need a supporting cast. And a D. And a goalie. You cannot have 21 year olds carry an entire team especially with one that is as leaky a boat as the Oilers.

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Sorry, but **** this ****. I'm tired of "works in progress."
It might be tiring, but it's the reality. RNH, Hall, Yakupov are all good young players, but they are a notch below Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin when it comes to talent. It will take a while for them to establish themselves as star players (See Sedins, Thornton etc). The team also has major holes (starting goalie, 1D, 2D, 2C) and lacks overall depth. They should take time to see what Eakins can do with these guys, then try to plug some of these holes in the off-season through free agent signings and trades. Gagner, Eberle, Yakupov, Smid, Klefbom, Marincin, 1st in 2014, 1st in 2014 should be in play next summer.

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10-14-2013, 10:34 PM
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I'm positive the fourth line was put out there after Ovechkin was already on the ice. Than Ovechkin buried that scrub Brown and hell broke loose. Its a joke those losers were playing in a 4-1 loss. Its a joke those 3 are in the NHL

Thanks alot Keith
You could be right. But if I am the Caps I want Ovie on that line.
Brown and Acton I agree do not have a place in the NHL. I do like Gazdic. We need some size and he's a damn site better than Eager or Macintyre.

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Look at the supporting cast Kane had. And the D. And the goalie. Kane was not expected to carry the team at 21.
Our stars are having trouble putting up even regular points, let alone rely on supporting cast.

Ironically, the supporting cast at the moment is scoring

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Our stars are having trouble putting up even regular points, let alone rely on supporting cast.

Ironically, the supporting cast at the moment is scoring
The "kids" have nearly a point a game. Check the stats. And a supporting cast means PK, checking depth, and defense. Not all about scoring, as we are proving.

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10-14-2013, 10:41 PM
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Look at the supporting cast Kane had. And the D. And the goalie. Kane was not expected to carry the team at 21.
Yeah, Chicago guys had much much better support cast. Basically Toews and Kane were the only young players when they won the cup. Keith, Seabrook, Campbell, Kim Johnson, Sopel on D.
Sharp, Hossa, Versteeg, Bufyglien, Brouwer, Ladd, Bolland, Madden at forward.
Huet and Niemi in net.
Surround Hall and RNH with these troops circa 2010 and the Oilers would be contenders no doubt.


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Eakins putting the 4th line out against Ovechkin was bush league. minor league coach with a minor league mentality.
CAps as mentioned had last change. So they can hardly complain about who was out there. I thought they selected that.

The minor league thing was Brown being the smallest player on the ice out there and looking like a scrub getting tossed around.

Why is this guy on an NHL team?

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Actually, considering that Brown and co put Ovi and some of his buddies in the penalty box, is that really such a bad thing?
Brown taking any other NHL player into the penalty box with matching penalties is a win..


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