i agree that there seems to be a disconnect with him currently in Edmonton but I don't for one second let the Heavily Edmonton crowd over value their players.
for one some guys on there think he is worth 5 1st round picks..
that is silly. Truth is the GM of that team would trade almost anyone if he felt he was getting a deal that was improving the team today and next year.
The panthers could do that with some of our current and future players.
if we could find a way to hold onto bjugs trocheck petrovic i would be very pleased in making a deal for a guy with that much scoring potential.
I don't think Yak is worth 5 1sts...but certainly the equivalent of 1 or 2 1sts plus something else. He was a #1 overall and tied for the rookie scoring lead last season. Some of these offers are way too low.
I haven't watched matheson so i can't argue your preference. But what i saw last year from petrovic looked like what we thought we would have with guds right off the bat.
Petrovic is a better skater than Guds and is better offensively. Guds is more polished defensively right now, is more physically mature, and is a tad more physical, although both are very physical. The thing with Petrovic has always been consistency. He has to work on that and get more grounded I think.
Matheson has the *potential* to be in a class better than both of them. He has the potential to be a #1 all-round defenseman. He's a much better skater, and seems to have better hockey sense and defensive acumen than either of them. But obviously he is the farthest from a finished product.
He's someone I certainly wouldn't mind drafting. I have him at #5 right now.
1 Sam Reinhart C Kootenay
2 Aaron Ekblad D Barrie
3 Sam Bennett C/LW Kingston
4 Leon Draisaitl C/LW Prince Albert
5 Jake Virtanen LW/RW Calgary
6 Roland McKeown D Kingston
7 Kasperi Kapanen RW KalPa
8 William Nylander C/RW Rogle, Allsvenskan
9 Anton Karlsson LW/RW Frolunda Jr.
10 Michael Dal Colle C/LW Oshawa
It's going to take at least one of Guds, Kulikov or Markstrom (and we may have to add) to get Yakupov, but damn..I think I would do it. You don't get a lot of opportunities to nab a guy with his offensive skills, and lord knows we need offense. Sure it opens up another hole at defense or goaltender, but I think those are easier spots to fill than an elite, young, scoring winger.
Nail on a line with Huberdeau or Barkov is exactly what this team needs. Not too concerned with the attitude problems, the same things were said about Bure early in his career.
Edmonton is apparently pushing hard for Miller and Vanek, meanwhile we sit idle once again.
Will this team ever have a Pavel Bure-esque blockbuster deal ever again? I mean, where we are the team RECEIVING the superstar, not giving them away for the 50th time.
Trading prime-aged elite players is kinda rare in today's NHL.
Usually only happens when the said player burns bridges with the old team, or his GM is named Paul Holmgren.
On Vanek&Miller, no point in trading for that duo right now. We're not contenders and surely not 1 or 2 pieces away from contending. Dealing away the youth for two up-coming UFAs would be a massive mistake, let alone when we're talking about these two, Vanek reportedly wants to return to Minnesota (where he spent his junior career) and Miller wants to get closer to the west coast (because his wife lives in LA).
He is carrying our secondary scoring and looks incredibly slick while doing it.
Lol I can't wait till he finishes the year with 12 goals and a -20 and you come back saying "now I get it". We've watched him play 200 games, he's not a good nhl player. Remember when Booth was traded, all he needed was to "get out of Florida" and to get some "half-decent linemates". The truth was he's just bad, same as Santorelli (although obviously for Booth it was due to a dirty hit)