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10-19-2013, 02:59 PM
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As much as I would love for MZA to be the next St. Louis, he just isn't that good. I don't mean comparable to MSL either but rather in general.

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Zuccarello is the most annoying player on the Rangers. Not because he's no good but because he has a Charlie Brown football kicking legion of undying supporters that swear next time it will be different.

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Zuccarello is the most annoying player on the Rangers. Not because he's no good but because he has a Charlie Brown football kicking legion of undying supporters that swear next time it will be different.
And explain why this is Zuccīs fault? Why is he annoying because of some fans??

Btw, we are talking about a few hard core fans that refuses to see his down sides, but most of the fans se him for what he is. Interesting enough, the norwegians are the ones that are the most critical towards him.....

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And explain why this is Zuccīs fault? Why is he annoying because of some fans??

Btw, we are talking about a few hard core fans that refuses to see his down sides, but most of the fans se him for what he is. Interesting enough, the norwegians are the ones that are the most critical towards him.....
I 'm not saying he is Gretzky or something like that. All im saying is blaming him for everything thats wrong with the Ranger roster is just wrong.

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10-19-2013, 03:58 PM
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As much as I would love for MZA to be the next St. Louis, he just isn't that good. I don't mean comparable to MSL either but rather in general.
Well, that isn't all true. I strongly believe that he is that good, and to me, all these posts, and the fuzz about him in a way proves that many people think so. We have all seen him perform at an amazing level, but what annoys me, and I am sure a lot of you posting here, is that he so rarely gives his best. There is no fighting spirit in him, compared with what he has shown us in previous seasons. A 80% Zuccarello doesn't belong in NHL at all, not even on Islanders roster, but Zuccarello at his best is absolutely a very good player.

Todays upcoming match should determine Zuccarellos future with the Rangers, if he yet again underperform, management should place him on waivers. At least, that is what I would do, what I would do about those other 7-8 forwards that are underperforming, I do not know.

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10-19-2013, 04:47 PM
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And explain why this is Zuccīs fault? Why is he annoying because of some fans??

Btw, we are talking about a few hard core fans that refuses to see his down sides, but most of the fans se him for what he is. Interesting enough, the norwegians are the ones that are the most critical towards him.....
Maybe in your universe but not the real one.

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10-19-2013, 05:37 PM
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We're on page five on a fresh thread on a borderline player, speculating wether or not he will pass waivers. And he is not even waived. (Max 10 % of the post from Norwegian fans) If this franchise got any business sense, that's a lot of fan activity uncommon for - an NHL borderline, invisible, one dimentional dwarf. As the NHL is business, in the entertainment industry, it would be foolish to get rid of him. He's got personality, he's fun to watch, and the Rangers need some entertainmeners after Torts. Desperately! And in my opinion, he's not in the way of any cup, rather the oposite.


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Maybe in your universe but not the real one.

Can you explain further please?

I’m a Norwegian and I have no issues criticize him. It’s easy to see that he is not a complete NHL player. Tortorella managed to use him in a way that made him valuable for this team. Sadly it seems that he has lost his edge, so sad for the Rangers and sad for Mats.

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I think he get's picked up & will be a nice pick up for another team.

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He's not the only problem but he sure as hell contributes to the problem.

He's too small.
Can't score.
Doesn't shoot.
A center playing wing. imo.

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He'd fit well on certain teams Detroit is one of them in my opinion.

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Zucc certainly hasn't been on top of his game this season, but i cant say anyone has, it seems he only produces points when the team is actually doing well.

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i'm this close --> <---- to completely giving up on this kid.

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He's playing the worst hockey of his life these days. Completely without any confinence. So is Hank as well. What is happening?

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He's playing the worst hockey of his life these days. Completely without any confinence. So is Hank as well. What is happening?
So is the whole team. They all suck. Brassard? Didnt even see him in the game. Inivisible. Stepan, WTF??

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Can you explain further please?

I’m a Norwegian and I have no issues criticize him. It’s easy to see that he is not a complete NHL player. Tortorella managed to use him in a way that made him valuable for this team. Sadly it seems that he has lost his edge, so sad for the Rangers and sad for Mats.
You have 64 posts. Have you read the endless threads on Zuccarello the past couple of years claiming he didn't really suck when he was hear and next time will be different? His one shootout move is the sum total of his NHL career.

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he got to the NHL cause he was a liitle weeble on a big rink.

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You have 64 posts. Have you read the endless threads on Zuccarello the past couple of years claiming he didn't really suck when he was hear and next time will be different? His one shootout move is the sum total of his NHL career.
Wow, that's harsh. And completely false. Try again please.

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10-20-2013, 08:31 PM
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You have 64 posts. Have you read the endless threads on Zuccarello the past couple of years claiming he didn't really suck when he was hear and next time will be different? His one shootout move is the sum total of his NHL career.
Instead of reading threads, like you, maybe he is actually watching the games?

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Just a question i've been wondering about, if zucc is sent down to the AHL. He has to go through waivers first? And then he can be picked up by any club as long as they give him a similar contract like the one he has in NY?

And do you guys think he will clear waivers or not?
The better question is who cares if another team snaps him up? Honestly what is worth keeping here? He horrendously bad, offers nothing that anyone currently playing in the AHL could not provide. It is comical to me that people are using the argument, " we'll he's not hurting the team and he's not our biggest problem." Seriously?? He's getting upwards of 15 minutes a game of ice time with some powerplay time mixed in there and has literally nothing to show for it. Honestly, that's the definition of hurting the team. In the devils game he had a wide open shot attempt after skating around the devils d and decided to make a centering pass that had about a 4 percent chance of being completed because it was right into traffic and had to go about 15 feet to the nearest ranger. Even Joe got on him for passing in that situation. Guys, come on, that's hurting the team! It makes no difference if he skates around the d and "outworks"( another subjective and not hard to achieve criteria right now) if he can't get up the courage to shoot the puck!

There is a reason that last year not a single NHL team signed this guy to a contract and not even the Rangers brought him back right away. It is pathetic to me that they signed this guy before they offered Stephan a contract. I'd honesty rather increase the salary of the peanut vendors at MSG then give another cent to Mats.


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10-21-2013, 06:43 AM
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There is a reason that last year not a single NHL team signed this guy to a contract and not even the Rangers brought him back right away. It is pathetic to me that they signed this guy before they offered Stephan a contract. I'd honesty rather increase the salary of
the peanut vendors at MSG then give another cent to Mats.
The main reason being that he was an RFA and the Rangers had qualified him. He was making good money in the KHL and he'd probably ask more money to sign for any other team than the Rangers. Any other team would most likely have to give up a 2nd or a 3rd to sign him.

Stepan wasn't getting any more money either way, he was getting a two year bridge deal, so Zuccarello's contract wasn't a factor. That statement is simply nonsensical.

That being said, it does not look like the kid has what it takes and he'll be waived and clear within a couple of weeks. Russia or Sweden next.

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That being said, it does not look like the kid has what it takes and he'll be waived and clear within a couple of weeks. Russia or Sweden next.

Its obvious that the production and effort this year has not been good enough, by at least 3 points.

But I fail to see why he's not supposedly good enough when he was 2nd in production in last year's PO's. As well as maintaining his avg. in the regular season matches. By all standards, that is good enough for the Rangers.

Wouldn't the natural thing be to look at the system to find the underlying fault for everyones shortcomings ? Instead of tooting the 'He has not talent' horn.

This is the same hockeyteam as last year, they didn't just magically get worse over the summer, something is causing it, and its not one short guy.

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Its obvious that the production and effort this year has not been good enough, by at least 3 points.

But I fail to see why he's not supposedly good enough when he was 2nd in production in last year's PO's. As well as maintaining his avg. in the regular season matches. By all standards, that is good enough for the Rangers.

Wouldn't the natural thing be to look at the system to find the underlying fault for everyones shortcomings ? Instead of tooting the 'He has not talent' horn.

This is the same hockeyteam as last year, they didn't just magically get worse over the summer, something is causing it, and its not one short guy.
I think one factor is being overlooked when judging why he looks worse than last year. The lockout. Yes, the lockout.

Last year most players came in to start the season without a training camp. Mats on the other hand not only had a full training camp in Russia before starting the season, he had a couple of weeks of rest and then another training camp just before joining the NHL.

He attended "Camp Roy" a training camp designed by Team Norway head coach Roy Johansen. The camp is designed with just one thing in mind: Rebuild and freshen the legs of players at the end of their season to allow them to get in shape for the WC. It is a hard camp, but with more rest than your regular preseason camp. While other NHL players were playing tough games four nights a week, Mats had just finished resting up after the playoff exit in Russia and could focus on getting back in shape for the final stretch.

I think that gave him a huge advantage and that's why he looked like a better skater. He really wasn't much quicker, the others were just a tad bit slower.

I was hoping he could take the confidence and experience he picked up with him and be able to keep up his performance, but it doesn't seem like he'll be able to. I'm going to give this one to BRB and RB and say there were probably right all along. The guy is not good enough to be a regular NHL'er. Though I still stick to the hope that he'll prove them (and me) wrong.

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Its obvious that the production and effort this year has not been good enough, by at least 3 points.

But I fail to see why he's not supposedly good enough when he was 2nd in production in last year's PO's. As well as maintaining his avg. in the regular season matches. By all standards, that is good enough for the Rangers.

Wouldn't the natural thing be to look at the system to find the underlying fault for everyones shortcomings ? Instead of tooting the 'He has not talent' horn.

This is the same hockeyteam as last year, they didn't just magically get worse over the summer, something is causing it, and its not one short guy.
The only problem Zucc has compared to the other players on the team, are the missing points on the board. One multi-point game will fix this. Other than this, the whole team has been as awful as him. The only players that could be somewhat happy with their own performance are Richards and Callahan.

Players like Stepan and Brassard are expected to be top players. They have been totally invisible. Stepan have some points though, but no goals.

I am not defending Zucc, not at all, he has sucked big time, and is probably on his worst strech in his entire career.

Zucc is not this teams problem. The problem are the top players not getting it together. Lundqvist, Brassard, Stepan, Nash (sucked the games he played before he got injured)......

I do believe, however, that Zucc will ble waived shortly if he donīt produce. Thatīs how hockey works, especially NHL.

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The only problem Zucc has compared to the other players on the team, are the missing points on the board. One multi-point game will fix this. Other than this, the whole team has been as awful as him. The only players that could be somewhat happy with their own performance are Richards and Callahan.

Players like Stepan and Brassard are expected to be top players. They have been totally invisible. Stepan have some points though, but no goals.

I am not defending Zucc, not at all, he has sucked big time, and is probably on his worst strech in his entire career.

Zucc is not this teams problem. The problem are the top players not getting it together. Lundqvist, Brassard, Stepan, Nash (sucked the games he played before he got injured)......

I do believe, however, that Zucc will ble waived shortly if he donīt produce. Thatīs how hockey works, especially NHL.
This entire post is comical at best.Stepan and Brassard have been invisible and Zuc hasnt.Meanwhile,both players have produced more then Zuc

LOL

Not to mention the fact Stepan didn't have the whole training camp because of his holdout,and he STILL has produced more then Zuc.But Stepan has been invisible.

No,Zuc isn't the only problem on this team,but so far,he sure as hell isn't a solution either.

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