HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Colorado Avalanche
Notices

In-season Proposals, Rumors, Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) XLIV

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-20-2013, 12:10 PM
  #76
cgf
Registered User
 
cgf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,469
vCash: 500
The NHL will stop playing hockey before Jagr does.

cgf is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 02:56 PM
  #77
dsheehan73
Registered User
 
dsheehan73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 178
vCash: 500
Barrie

Not sure where to put this but how long does he ride the pine? Can't be good for a young defenseman that needs ice time to develop. I believe he can be sent to LEM still and that might be for the best if he's gonna be eating popcorn for the foreseeable future. Who to call up? Lauridsen?

dsheehan73 is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 03:00 PM
  #78
Avs71
Registered User
 
Avs71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,069
vCash: 500
If the Rangers were to blow it up, would most here be for or against Elliott+2nd for Del Zotto?

Avs71 is online now  
Old
10-20-2013, 03:01 PM
  #79
BrickAHL
#NotUs
 
BrickAHL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,818
vCash: 432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avs71 View Post
If the Rangers were to blow it up, would most here be for or against Elliott+2nd for Del Zotto?
Easily for and I might be the world's biggest Elliott fan.

BrickAHL is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 03:12 PM
  #80
Avs71
Registered User
 
Avs71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,069
vCash: 500
To further add, I wonder which defencemen could be had if teams that are struggling at the midway point decide to shop off players. I could see any of the following being traded this season.

-Timonen
-Coburn
-Del Zotto
-Girardi
-Ehrhoff
-Greene
-Salvador
-Tyutin

Avs71 is online now  
Old
10-20-2013, 03:25 PM
  #81
Freudian
Patty likes beef
 
Freudian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Country: Sweden
Posts: 28,697
vCash: 50
I haven't watched Flyers much this year, but their fans have soured on Coburn big time. It's possible he's not what he used to be.

Timonen is way too expensive and too old.

Salvador isn't what he used to be. Not the same wheels and the eye injury is troubling.

Girardi might be a good option, but he's looked real bad the games I've seen with Rangers this year. Defenders that take a lot of punishment tend to drop off early and Girardi has taken more pucks to the body than anyone the last five years.

Ehrhoff is solid. Greene (Devils, not Kings) and Tyutin as well. Del Zotto is pretty good but his lack of mobility is troubling. Of course if we trade him for Wilson, who also looks to have big problems with mobility these days, it might be ok.

Freudian is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 03:36 PM
  #82
Lonewolfe2015
Registered User
 
Lonewolfe2015's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 10,887
vCash: 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsheehan73 View Post
Not sure where to put this but how long does he ride the pine? Can't be good for a young defenseman that needs ice time to develop. I believe he can be sent to LEM still and that might be for the best if he's gonna be eating popcorn for the foreseeable future. Who to call up? Lauridsen?
Our depth chart is as follows. Holden is only above our other prospects because he's on the main roster eating nachos right now. Barrie probably needs to earn his ice time back from Roy due to some sketchy defensive play early in the season.

Fear not, Guenin couldn't be any slower if he tried and aside from Wilson's glass-like frame, he's also shown the kind of decision-making that could make him the next star defender in the JIHL (Japanese Ice Hockey League).

Barrie (NHL)
Holden (NHL)
Elliott
Siemens
Hunwick
Stollery
Lauridsen/Tam/Beaupre

Lonewolfe2015 is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 03:39 PM
  #83
Lonewolfe2015
Registered User
 
Lonewolfe2015's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 10,887
vCash: 239
Ehrhoff or Campbell would be perfect.

Coburn, Girardi, MDZ are all players that need to come at very reasonable prices and very likely wouldn't.

I'm wondering if we could steal Sbisa out of Anaheim, he'd be a solid option with his defensive abilities and mobility. Plus they could use a guy like Stastny if we had to move him.

Lonewolfe2015 is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 04:28 PM
  #84
El_Loco_Avs
Registered User
 
El_Loco_Avs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Country: Netherlands
Posts: 7,886
vCash: 500
I'd want someone mobile and young.

El_Loco_Avs is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 04:38 PM
  #85
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 16,914
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duchene2MacKinnon View Post
How attached are you guys with Matta?
Quite, haha. Roy likes dem French Canadiens doesn't he? Despres for McGinn?

mpp9 is online now  
Old
10-20-2013, 04:44 PM
  #86
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 16,914
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by S E P H View Post
McGinn for Harrington?!
Possibly. I think the organization sees Maatta, Pouliot and Harrington as their longterm guys on the blue line. But they're in dire need of some forward depth. This year for sure. And the situation gets even worse moving forward.

Nisky has 6 pts in 8 games. +9 with 20 minutes avg TOI. He's been damn good for most of his time in Pitt.

It's Shero's style to deal a guy when it's looking like he's getting passed up on the depth chart and/or struggling in our system.

I'd say Despres is the guy that most fits that scenario right now. Dumoulin is outplaying him in WBS. Maatta earned a roster spot over him at camp. The kid needs NHL minutes to get better as a player. He'll help your transition game for sure.

mpp9 is online now  
Old
10-20-2013, 04:48 PM
  #87
Teuras
Registered offender
 
Teuras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 1,313
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpp9 View Post
Quite, haha. Roy likes dem French Canadiens doesn't he? Despres for McGinn?
Maybe. I haven't watched him at all. Can he move the puck well?

Teuras is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 04:50 PM
  #88
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 16,914
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teuras View Post
Maybe. I haven't watched him at all. Can he move the puck well?
That's his game. He was our best PMD after Letang last year. The fact he can skate like the wind while being 6'4 220 is a bonus.

Our coach screwed with his minutes last year and now is getting buried in the depth chart.

mpp9 is online now  
Old
10-20-2013, 04:57 PM
  #89
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
 
tigervixxxen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Denver
Country: United States
Posts: 9,835
vCash: 50
Dont see much interest in moving McGinn. He's on a cheap contract, RFA, can play in the top 6. I don't see the Avs moving him even in a decent deal.

tigervixxxen is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 05:16 PM
  #90
Lonewolfe2015
Registered User
 
Lonewolfe2015's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 10,887
vCash: 239
McGinn is worth more than what Pittsburgh would offer I have to believe.

I would want Despres + 2nd for instance. Maata would be a great pickup. So would Harrington. But again, I'd want more than just those players in a 1 for 1. And given our current defensive prospect depth, I think we're better off keeping McGinn with MacKinnon, re-signing him this season and hanging onto the offensive depth unless a better deal comes along.

He's a young, cheap goalscoring winger that doesn't look out of place anywhere in our lineup. Those are invaluable players for playoff contending teams.

Lonewolfe2015 is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 06:07 PM
  #91
Duchene2MacKinnon
BELIEVE
 
Duchene2MacKinnon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,379
vCash: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStranger View Post
You have 2-3 more years haha
I'll savor them... Sturm retired today as well. I thought he retired years ago. Hejduk will suffer the same fate sadly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonewolfe2015 View Post
McGinn is worth more than what Pittsburgh would offer I have to believe.

I would want Despres + 2nd for instance. Maata would be a great pickup. So would Harrington. But again, I'd want more than just those players in a 1 for 1. And given our current defensive prospect depth, I think we're better off keeping McGinn with MacKinnon, re-signing him this season and hanging onto the offensive depth unless a better deal comes along.

He's a young, cheap goalscoring winger that doesn't look out of place anywhere in our lineup. Those are invaluable players for playoff contending teams.
I'd do Maata for Mcginn.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpp9 View Post
Quite, haha. Roy likes dem French Canadiens doesn't he? Despres for McGinn?
No, thanks if Mcginn gets traded I want a sure fire prospect or young player.

Duchene2MacKinnon is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 07:10 PM
  #92
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 16,914
vCash: 500
Despres is an NHL player. Our coach called him a top 4 D this summer. Unfortunately for him, we signed Scuderi and Maatta has looked like one of our best D so far this season.

If you're looking for a young, big mobile D who's great in transition, he's a great acquisition for you. Not many like him out there. Maatta and Dumoulin have made him expendable.

mpp9 is online now  
Old
10-20-2013, 07:32 PM
  #93
Lonewolfe2015
Registered User
 
Lonewolfe2015's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 10,887
vCash: 239
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpp9 View Post
Despres is an NHL player. Our coach called him a top 4 D this summer. Unfortunately for him, we signed Scuderi and Maatta has looked like one of our best D so far this season.

If you're looking for a young, big mobile D who's great in transition, he's a great acquisition for you. Not many like him out there. Maatta and Dumoulin have made him expendable.
It's not that we couldn't use him or don't want him. It's that we aren't prepared to pay that much for him. We need better defenders than him right now and whatever we're paying should go towards one of them.


Last edited by Lonewolfe2015: 10-20-2013 at 08:23 PM.
Lonewolfe2015 is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 07:45 PM
  #94
Avs44
Registered User
 
Avs44's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 7,572
vCash: 3319
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpp9 View Post
Despres is an NHL player. Our coach called him a top 4 D this summer. Unfortunately for him, we signed Scuderi and Maatta has looked like one of our best D so far this season.

If you're looking for a young, big mobile D who's great in transition, he's a great acquisition for you.
Not many like him out there. Maatta and Dumoulin have made him expendable.
Would I have interest in Despres? Yes. For McGinn? No. If the Avs break up their top 9, they should be acquiring someone quite a bit better than Despres.

Avs44 is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 08:50 PM
  #95
cgf
Registered User
 
cgf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,469
vCash: 500
Man if we brought in a guy like Campbell this team could really be in position to make a serious run next season. This year they'd get a taste and with MacK taking a step next year and the team having an offseason to respond to year 1 under Roy, we'd be legit capable of taking down any team with our oldies all holding the seat warm for talented kids.

cgf is offline  
Old
10-20-2013, 11:55 PM
  #96
viach
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Country: France
Posts: 890
vCash: 500
He could be interesting to see Despres to Colorado but no for McGinn

Downie ?

viach is offline  
Old
10-21-2013, 01:21 AM
  #97
Teuras
Registered offender
 
Teuras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 1,313
vCash: 50
Despres sounds like someone who could really benefit from a change of scenery. As soon as we get on a losing streak, the Avs fans won't protect McGinn this much. Maybe this is something that could work in a different situation.

Teuras is offline  
Old
10-21-2013, 01:42 AM
  #98
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
 
tigervixxxen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Denver
Country: United States
Posts: 9,835
vCash: 50
No, I'm not changing my mind on McGinn. He's making 1.75M. That's 15k more than Hunwick, let that sink in for a moment. And the Avs are not going to all of a sudden inherit a surplus of wingers anytime soon. A losing streak isn't going to change his value here.

tigervixxxen is offline  
Old
10-21-2013, 01:51 AM
  #99
Avs44
Registered User
 
Avs44's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 7,572
vCash: 3319
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teuras View Post
Despres sounds like someone who could really benefit from a change of scenery. As soon as we get on a losing streak, the Avs fans won't protect McGinn this much. Maybe this is something that could work in a different situation.
I don't see how a losing streak will change a thing. He is on a very friendly contract and will only be an RFA after this year, and the type of player that can be inserted on any of our top 3 lines. Trading him for a very uncertain player like Despres isn't worth it. If the Avs move a top 9 player, a significant hole opens up. We don't have the prospect depth to replace a guy like McGinn internally, instead someone like Mitchell would get bumped up a line. Unless we're getting exactly what we need, I doubt McGinn will be moved. The Penguins can keep Despres if McGinn is the type of player they'd want back.

Avs44 is offline  
Old
10-21-2013, 02:33 AM
  #100
Teuras
Registered offender
 
Teuras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Country: Finland
Posts: 1,313
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avs44 View Post
I don't see how a losing streak will change a thing. He is on a very friendly contract and will only be an RFA after this year, and the type of player that can be inserted on any of our top 3 lines. Trading him for a very uncertain player like Despres isn't worth it. If the Avs move a top 9 player, a significant hole opens up. We don't have the prospect depth to replace a guy like McGinn internally, instead someone like Mitchell would get bumped up a line. Unless we're getting exactly what we need, I doubt McGinn will be moved. The Penguins can keep Despres if McGinn is the type of player they'd want back.
I'm not saying it would be a one for one trade. I personally agree on keeping McGinn. He was a great pickup for us.

I would offer draft picks but I doubt Pittsburgh is looking for them

Teuras is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:53 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.