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10-21-2013, 10:26 AM
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Your boy Gauthier left the Habs very low on forward depth. Our real depth has not made it to Hamilton yet.

Sucks when Tarnasky has the most goals from forwards in Hamilton. Gauthier's impact will hurt this team for a few more years.

Good luck to Holland and Blunden.
Gauthier is the reason we have Eller, and Gallagher was drafted under him. So what you mean is that Gauthier left the Habs very low on AHL forward depth. And even then you can blame Bergevin on not having Kristo, who would have been our oldest offense-first forward prospect in the AHL. So..yeah.

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10-21-2013, 10:28 AM
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We won't score many goals with that lineup. I know Prust isnt a goalscorer and Brière/Pacioretty weren't exactly tearing it up, but their absence really does expose the EGG line. They won't get a lot of easy match.

Desharnais, it's your time to shine.

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10-21-2013, 10:30 AM
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Based on Marc-Antoine Godin tweet, here were the lines at this morning's practie:

Bournival-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Moen-Desharnais-Bourque
Blunden-White-Holland

Ouch... Not a playoff team lineup.
Hopefully Bournival can impress with Plekanec as his centre!

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10-21-2013, 10:30 AM
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Or selected from a very deep draft just last year, and under contract already, for the most part (re: skilled forwards), so who cares if they're in Hamilton right now or not? That's my follow up question.
I still think people overrate most of Habs' prospects.

In the ones not yet in the AHL, very few will have a sort of impact, or they would be dominating at the level they play right now.

Habs will be lucky if one of those prospects becomes an impact top 6, and 1 or 2 others having a certain impact on the bottom 6.

I'm not implying Timmins isn't doing a good job. To me, it's just normal stuff. If you consider any top-20 prospect list, only 1-2 usually have a real impact, then 3-5 have a relative impact, like journeymen, role player, etc.

It's almost basic maths. It's impossible to have more than that in average because of all the vets staying in the NHL, and the new prospects drafted every year + some non-drafted free agents like Gorges.

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10-21-2013, 10:32 AM
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Your boy Gauthier left the Habs very low on forward depth. Our real depth has not made it to Hamilton yet.

Sucks when Tarnasky has the most goals from forwards in Hamilton. Gauthier's impact will hurt this team for a few more years.

Good luck to Holland and Blunden.
Ah yes, you mean:









On the team today, acquired over two seasons is clearly not enough over TWO DRAFTS. Of course we're not going to count Galchenyuk, are we

Once again buddy, you're wrong. So outrageously wrong that you only expose yourself. Keep at it, it's very entertaining - what was it about Subban you said? That he was unfit to wear the jersey since he was being so selfish? Pretty radical opinion you had there.

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10-21-2013, 10:44 AM
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Just play Eller's line over 20 minutes, Plek's line close to 20 minutes, DD's line 15 minutes and give 5 minutes to the 4th line. Then play Pernel Karl at least 29 minutes. They'll be fine tonight... not so much against the Ducks and Sharks later this week.

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10-21-2013, 11:07 AM
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Leblanc not called up. Gets no respeck.
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Based on Marc-Antoine Godin tweet, here were the lines at this morning's practie:

Bournival-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Moen-Desharnais-Bourque
Blunden-White-Holland

Ouch... Not a playoff team lineup.
Thank God Bourque is off the Pleks line. Bournival will do well with a playmaker like Pleks.

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10-21-2013, 11:32 AM
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Why does that idiot Blunden keep getting a chance? He skates around threatening to do something , but never does. He's terrible.

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Gauthier is the reason we have Eller, and Gallagher was drafted under him. So what you mean is that Gauthier left the Habs very low on AHL forward depth. And even then you can blame Bergevin on not having Kristo, who would have been our oldest offense-first forward prospect in the AHL. So..yeah.
Despite all that you wrote, reality is that we do not have adequate forward depth. Lets hope Holland plays well during this callup.

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10-21-2013, 11:34 AM
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We won't score many goals with that lineup.
Goals? I'd be more concerned about getting the s@@@ kicked out of us by any team with players over 5"10.

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Why does that idiot Blunden keep getting a chance? He skates around threatening to do something , but never does. He's terrible.
According to some, he eats up minutes, and doesn't do anything (bad or good). See? That's what we've come to expect in 2013.

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Goals? I'd be more concerned about getting the s@@@ kicked out of us by any team with players over 5"10.
I'm more worried about goals than that.

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According to some, he eats up minutes, and doesn't do anything (bad or good). See? That's what we've come to expect in 2013.
Nice, is he related to Briere by chance?

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Despite all that you wrote, reality is that we do not have adequate forward depth. Lets hope Holland plays well during this callup.
Well, this is what happens when you promote your best prospects ASAP and bring in extremely old, fragile vets like Briere to compliment them. You can't have it both ways - this team promoted the best prospects over the past year, where are equivalents supposed to come from? Say what you want about Gauthier but the only reason we have guys like Bournival and Holland to promote right now is from his trades.

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The fact that Blunden is our best player in Hamilton makes me sad
How has been Dumont and Leblanc, anyone ? Do they regress ?

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Despite all that you wrote, reality is that we do not have adequate forward depth. Lets hope Holland plays well during this callup.
Your irrational hate for Gauthier is really strange. I sense it is not simply a hockey thing.

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10-21-2013, 11:51 AM
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If Holland can work on his faceoffs I could see him turning into what Halpern was for us in 2011. A smart player who does the little things right defensively and is a decent playmaker.

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According to some, he eats up minutes, and doesn't do anything (bad or good). See? That's what we've come to expect in 2013.
No, that's what you expect from a replacement level player on any team. Nobody wants to see Blunden there, but being average defensively means we don't have to double shift better forwards.

But of course this doesn't fit your agenda, does it? If we need a Parros replacement you call up Tarnasky or something, this is about making up for the fact that Moen or something will have to be promoted.

I don't like Blunden, but he's a better hockey player than a Staubitz or a Nokelainen and so you can afford to play him over 5 minutes. We have better players, like Leblanc, but that would have made you even more upset, since he's smaller.

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If Murray and Emelin are almost ready then I expect a D will move to F. Does it make sense to play AHL forwards while defencemen like Bouillon, Tinordi and Pateryn are sitting? Again, as Pateryn leads the Dogs in scoring and uses his size well (and can fight) he seems to me the logical guy to stick on the 4th line. White and Bournival can move up and play with DD I thought they actually did well together last game.

Or we'll see a trade.

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10-21-2013, 12:00 PM
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Hide your wife, hide your kids, because the Blunden is coming back in town!

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10-21-2013, 12:10 PM
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In the ones not yet in the AHL, very few will have a sort of impact, or they would be dominating at the level they play right now.
You know before you make such claims you should do a little bit of homework. It would make you look like you know what you're talking about.

Gregoire - Q - 13 games - 22 points
Hudon - Q - 14 games - 16 points
Vail - OHL - 11 games - 12 points
Crisp - OHL - 11 games - 13 points
Thrower ( D-man) WHL - 7 games - 7 points
Lehkonen- SM Liiga -14 games - 10 points
McCarron - OHL - 9 games - 5 points
Reway - Q - 10 games - 8 points

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What is Holland's superpowers?

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I actually would like to see Naatinen get a shot. With the injuries he's had though, they are probably keeping him away from Montreal - God knows what would happen to him if he joined this team!

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