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Who is/was better defensively?

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Guy Carbonneau 18 94.74%
Jonathan Toews 1 5.26%
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10-23-2013, 01:06 PM
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Who is/was better defensively?

Having a discussion with my bro in-law here. It's Jonathan Toews vs Guy Carbonneau. Who's the better defensively?

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How many names can you put in that spot that would actually beat Carbonneau? Might be able to count them on one hand...with all due respect to Captain Serious, Jonathan Toews is not one of those names.

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because the question was defensively i would say Carbonneau without a doubt. he was allways pure defense first kinda guy where as Toews is more of a two way jonathan.

Carbonneau played in highest scoring era and not once did he crack 60 points, but won 3 selkes. that tells a lot about him.

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because the question was defensively i would say Carbonneau without a doubt. he was always pure defense first kinda guy where as Toews is more of a two way jonathan.
Took the words right outta my mouth.

Guys like Carbo, Gainey and Ramsay are a special breed.

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^^^ ya, echoing Mike Farkas & Rhiessan, Carbo 4sure, and all due respect to Toews etcetera etcetera...

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It will be hard for Toews to ever hit that level. He has more offensive talent than Carboneau did and that matters a great deal because Carboneau was able to focus pretty much solely on defense, while Toews can't. Carboneau is the winner here.

On an all-time list who trumps him defensively? Gainey, Clarke, Keon, Ramsey perhaps? Just throwing some names out there.

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How many names can you put in that spot that would actually beat Carbonneau? Might be able to count them on one hand...with all due respect to Captain Serious, Jonathan Toews is not one of those names.
He probably isn't but it's always a bit unfair to compare one guys complete career with another guy still in his prime.

Either way no one is taking Guy over John at the same points in their careers.

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the answer to the op's question is clear. But how close was Lehtinen to Guy? Jere probably learned a thing or two from Guy.

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the answer to the op's question is clear. But how close was Lehtinen to Guy? Jere probably learned a thing or two from Guy.
I would say quite close. Lehtinen was elite.

I realize that had the question been "Better two-way" then we'd get some different results and it would depend solely on how people view defense vs offense. But the discussion I had with my bro in-law was based strictly on their defense, so that's why I made the poll as such.

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Having a discussion with my bro in-law here. It's Jonathan Toews vs Guy Carbonneau. Who's the better defensively?

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obvs Toews is better he is so good at puck dangles snipes celly so silky .

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