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10-23-2013, 09:16 PM
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If he was a solution,he wouldn't be sitting out tomorrow
I'll do you one better. If he was engaged, involved and playing hard every shift he wouldn't be sitting out tomorrow.

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Meh. Zuccarello's production is the least of our problems. He's at least been noticeable on the ice. The larger problem is that our arguably three best players aren't playing tomorrow and production from anyone not named Richards is non existent.

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10-24-2013, 05:31 AM
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If he was a solution,he wouldn't be sitting out tomorrow
I like how you insist on going after individual players instead of the team. With the exception of Dorsett, thats rather pointless atm. (Yes, Im a hypocrite)

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I'll do you one better. If he was engaged, involved and playing hard every shift he wouldn't be sitting out tomorrow.
If he wasn't part of the solution he would be waived by now. He told the media himself he was playing piss poor, that's why he's a likely scracth. Think some rest will do him good, especially this game. He will bounce back, for sure.

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10-24-2013, 07:17 AM
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I'll do you one better. If he was engaged, involved and playing hard every shift he wouldn't be sitting out tomorrow.
Some of the guys in this forum have a bad habit of targeting spesific players. Now its Zuccarellos turn. I fail to see that he is the main problem on this team. The top players sure as hell hasnt shown me antything even close to the skill level they should be playing at.

Best thing for Zuccarello is to be put on waivers and hopefully be claimed and get the hell out of town.

Ny Rangers is not the place for him.

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10-24-2013, 08:17 AM
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One of Zucc, Pyatt, Pouliot needed to sit. Tonight it's Zucc. In Detroit it could be one of the other two. The team hasn't played well. I know there are injuries but that doesn't mean you don't bring the effort every night. They played a hard, tough game in two games this year and those are the ones they won. AV moved out Biron and Asham. Powe came up and then was gone because he was definitely not going to be of any help. I doubt you see Zucc sit for any length of time. You can bet your ass AV will be zeroing in on players like Pouliot and Pyatt tonight. Because if they play like **** again they will be scratched for Zucc.

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10-24-2013, 08:33 AM
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If he wasn't part of the solution he would be waived by now. He told the media himself he was playing piss poor, that's why he's a likely scracth. Think some rest will do him good, especially this game. He will bounce back, for sure.
Bounce back to what exactly?

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10-24-2013, 08:35 AM
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Some of the guys in this forum have a bad habit of targeting spesific players. Now its Zuccarellos turn. I fail to see that he is the main problem on this team. The top players sure as hell hasnt shown me antything even close to the skill level they should be playing at.

Best thing for Zuccarello is to be put on waivers and hopefully be claimed and get the hell out of town.

Ny Rangers is not the place for him.
My point is the bar is pretty low right now. The roster is rife with players who are struggling to produce and not playing hard. If Zuccarello simply played hard he would stand putt — in a positive way. And there would be no way that he would be a scratch. He can control that.


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10-24-2013, 08:37 AM
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I like how you insist on going after individual players instead of the team. With the exception of Dorsett, thats rather pointless atm. (Yes, Im a hypocrite)
Individual players make up the team. What a silly argument.

Whats scary for Zuccarello is that 3 top 6 forwards are out injured and he STILL cant land a spot on this team.

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10-24-2013, 09:13 AM
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Bounce back to what exactly?
To play less like urine? To the way he has played before? Like a (bouncing) ball that hits the floor and suddenly changes direction back to where it came from.

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To play less like urine? To the way he has played before? Like a (bouncing) ball that hits the floor and suddenly changes direction back to where it came from.
How did he play before? The thing about Zuccarello is he's shown flashes, but he's hardly established himself as a legit NHL player. My point is the way he "played before" was hardly consistent.

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How did he play before? The thing about Zuccarello is he's shown flashes, but he's hardly established himself as a legit NHL player. My point is the way he "played before" was hardly consistent.
The macthes might be stores at MSG or something if you would like to see it for yourself, but his flashes made him the second most productive player last play off. He might be a borderline NHLer, but that doens't speak very highly of the majority of rest. Might be a compliment to Torts though.

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Fascinating to see how much discussion Zucc can create. Where is the Pyatt thread?

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Why is it that currently the best defense of Zuccarello is to point out how bad other players have been?

I'm not sure he will bounce back to because there is such a small sample of work that he hasn't established himself as anything.


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10-24-2013, 10:48 AM
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Fascinating to see how much discussion Zucc can create. Where is the Pyatt thread?
Pyatt is tall so no one cares that he's in the lineup. Doesnt take much to be a NHLer these days

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Why is it that currently the best defense of Zuccarello is to point out how bad other players have been?

I'm not sure he will bounce back to because there is such a small sample of work that he hasn't established himself as anything.
This debate is a bit like playing with a boucing ball / ping pong.
He's had 0 Points in 7 games, and app 0.5 points in the 67 games before that. If he can get back to be a + player producing 0.5 a game, that would be an improvement from being a healthy scratch. Hence the bouncing. And of course it's relevant to compare him with his rivals on the team when we are debating why he's scratched, as you gave an explanation for above. He's in an absolute, and maybe also a relative slump and I have no problem with him being scratched, but if you cannot even recognice that he's been way better / the physics of a boucing ball (not sure which one) it's hard to find a starting point.

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10-24-2013, 11:43 AM
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I think he's to settled, is that the right Word?

He's been too confident that his spot is safe, he needs to find that "I'm playing/fighting for a New contract" mentality again..

When he finds that, he'll show flashes of goodnes again.

But until he does, he'll be at a cross road..

This is the first time he's been scratched due to performance so far..right?

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I think he's to settled, is that the right Word?

He's been too confident that his spot is safe, he needs to find that "I'm playing/fighting for a New contract" mentality again..

When he finds that, he'll show flashes of goodnes again.

But until he does, he'll be at a cross road..

This is the first time he's been scratched due to performance so far..right?
I cant fathom how a player that has accomplished so little at the NHL level would be complacent.

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10-24-2013, 11:54 AM
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This debate is a bit like playing with a boucing ball / ping pong.
He's had 0 Points in 7 games, and app 0.5 points in the 67 games before that. If he can get back to be a + player producing 0.5 a game, that would be an improvement from being a healthy scratch. Hence the bouncing. And of course it's relevant to compare him with his rivals on the team when we are debating why he's scratched, as you gave an explanation for above. He's in an absolute, and maybe also a relative slump and I have no problem with him being scratched, but if you cannot even recognice that he's been way better / the physics of a boucing ball (not sure which one) it's hard to find a starting point.
But see that's the thing. He's compiled those misleading numbers of three small sample sizes not over a 67 game span. He's never showed what he can do over a prolonged stretch.

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I cant fathom how a player that has accomplished so little at the NHL level would be complacent.
He probably looked around at who he was competing with...

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He probably looked around at who he was competing with...
that should give him even more reason to bust his ass and produce...

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He probably looked around at who he was competing with...
I just dont think hes very good. Ill stick with that until further notice.

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Some of the guys in this forum have a bad habit of targeting spesific players. Now its Zuccarellos turn. I fail to see that he is the main problem on this team. The top players sure as hell hasnt shown me antything even close to the skill level they should be playing at.

Best thing for Zuccarello is to be put on waivers and hopefully be claimed and get the hell out of town.

Ny Rangers is not the place for him.
Those top players you mentioned,even not playing up to their standards,have still outproduced Zuc.1 of them pretty much missed the entire training camp/preseason too

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But see that's the thing. He's compiled those misleading numbers of three small sample sizes not over a 67 game span. He's never showed what he can do over a prolonged stretch.
Well. I can agree on that he is not proven over the long strech. But then shouldn't the recent 7 games be too much emphasized either. Only way to find out is see how this season plays out. Don't think it's about will or motivation, but rather loss of self confidence and maybe some other issues. Cannot imagine that he's not understanding what hole he's in right now. He's one of my favourite players to watch normally, but right now he stinks. Untill he really starts his production there will always be people on this board that see him as crap, but if he can play like he played before he got injured and last season, he is a solid contributer in my opionion.

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Don't think we've seen the last of him..

I think this rest will do him good...hopefully..

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