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10-26-2013, 05:26 PM
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Two goalies with zero NHL experience?

In the Rangers' loss to the Flyers two days ago, the Rangers entered the game with Cam Talbot as their starter and Jason Missiaen as their backup (Lundqvist was out with an injury, Biron recently retired). Between the two of them, they had zero minutes of NHL experience (regular season or playoffs).

I'm sure it has happened several times in NHL history, especially in similar cases where injuries knock out a starter and/or backup and emergency callups are made. But I was wondering if we can find any examples where a team dressed two such goalies by choice - that is to say, their hand wasn't forced by unforeseen circumstances - and where the duo was sustained for a relatively long period of time (say, half a season or a season). So not like Talbot and Missiaen, where once Lundqvist is healthy Missiaen will be sent back down. But more like a hypothetical situation where the Rangers traded Lundqvist and Biron this offseason, and went into the season with Talbot and Missiaen as #1 and #2 on their depth chart, with zero NHL games between them.

Can anyone think of a time that this has happened? I'm guessing it's rare, because usually when a team wants a rookie goalie on their roster, they also want a veteran there to help mentor.

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I cant really think of any in the modern era with the 2 goalie system, and even previously with just one guy without a backup even dressed most of them, like Lumley, Sawchuk etc, they all apprenticed somewhat in the minors and had had some spot play in the NHL (Lumley at 17 played a game for the Rangers on-loan from Detroit in 44/45) before being handed the starters position upon commencement of a season.

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I cant really think of any in the modern era with the 2 goalie system, and even previously with just one guy without a backup even dressed most of them, like Lumley, Sawchuk etc, they all apprenticed somewhat in the minors and had had some spot play in the NHL (Lumley at 17 played a game for the Rangers on-loan from Detroit in 44/45) before being handed the starters position upon commencement of a season.
Closest would be the 1960-61 Leafs when Johnny Bower was injured having to choose betweem Cesare Maniago and Gerry McNamara.

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I was thinking the most likely teams would be expansion teams of the 90s and 2000s, and teams that were perpetual bottomfeeders and had massive firesales (i.e. Pittsburgh pre-lockout). But out of those, I don't see any that had two rookie goalies.

The other thing I was thinking was maybe a team had one young rookie goalie, and another "veteran" goalie from Europe with no NHL experience. Columbus in 2006-07 was close, with Norrena having no NHL experience and a young Leclaire as his backup...but Leclaire had 35 games of experience coming in to that season.

EDIT: Cechmanek and Boucher in 2000-01 was also close...but Boucher had 35 games of regular season experience and that great playoff run in 2000.

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Closest would be the 1960-61 Leafs when Johnny Bower was injured having to choose betweem Cesare Maniago and Gerry McNamara.
Ya. Usually an injury or a phenom like Sawchuk getting the start out of Training Camp to start the season but with a track record of stellar play in the Minors & or Jr/Sr like Lumley.

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The 86-87 Winnipeg Jets went with two rookie goalies for the majority of the season: Pokey Reddick (age 22) and Daniel Berthiaume (age 20). They were nicknamed "Pokey and the Bandit" by the fans. Reddick had no prior NHL experience, Berthiaume had only one game the previous season.

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The 86-87 Winnipeg Jets went with two rookie goalies for the majority of the season: Pokey Reddick (age 22) and Daniel Berthiaume (age 20). They were nicknamed "Pokey and the Bandit" by the fans. Reddick had no prior NHL experience, Berthiaume had only one game the previous season.
Back-ups to Ken Dryden, Michel Plasse(1game) and Wayne Thomas(zero games) were similar.

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The 86-87 Winnipeg Jets went with two rookie goalies for the majority of the season: Pokey Reddick (age 22) and Daniel Berthiaume (age 20). They were nicknamed "Pokey and the Bandit" by the fans. Reddick had no prior NHL experience, Berthiaume had only one game the previous season.
Great find!

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I remember that. Way cool.

Agree with others. Good find

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December 5, 1981 the New York Rangers played the Colorado Rockies with 2 goalies with 0 NHL experience. 18 year old rookie John Vanbiesbrouck started his first ever NHL game with Rick Strack serving as his backup.


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