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10-19-2013, 08:45 PM
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Things that downtrodden 4-3 Tennessee has done this season: defeated a top-15 opponent

Let me know when anyone in the B1G does the same.
Have any of them come up to the shoe and it will happen. Not my fault they're all too scared.

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Have any of them come up to the shoe and it will happen. Not my fault they're all too scared.
I seem to remember Ohio State cancelling a scheduled home-and-home against Tennessee, as well as one against Georgia that would take place in the two years following the Tennessee one.

Considering OSU's track record with the SEC, I understand why they'd want to bail out as quickly as possible.

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I seem to remember Ohio State cancelling a scheduled home-and-home against Tennessee, as well as one against Georgia that would take place in the two years following the Tennessee one.

Considering OSU's track record with the SEC, I understand why they'd want to bail out as quickly as possible.
correct...they cancelled due to B1G going to a 9 game schedule...i've defended OSU and their scheduling practices...but cancelling these two games just goes against everything i've defended them for in the past...

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I seem to remember Ohio State cancelling a scheduled home-and-home against Tennessee, as well as one against Georgia that would take place in the two years following the Tennessee one.

Considering OSU's track record with the SEC, I understand why they'd want to bail out as quickly as possible.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...me-home-series

HOW DARE OSU PLAY BALL WITH THE REST OF THE BIG TEN AND AGREE TO TAKE PART IN THE B1G/PAC MATCHUP AGREEMENT!!!!!!!

Give me a break. Georgia is probably going to suck in 2020 anyways. Talk about a team that's perennially overrated.

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/...me-home-series

HOW DARE OSU PLAY BALL WITH THE REST OF THE BIG TEN AND AGREE TO TAKE PART IN THE B1G/PAC MATCHUP AGREEMENT!!!!!!!

Give me a break. Georgia is probably going to suck in 2020 anyways. Talk about a team that's perennially overrated.
"The Big Ten/Pac-12 partnership, which ultimately will have 12 annual matchups between conference teams, is set to begin in 2017, although Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith told ESPN.com the Buckeyes likely won't begin participating until 2018."

They specifically deferred the entry into that in order to preserve a home-and-home against Oklahoma. They'll keep a series with Oklahoma, but not two SEC schools? Wonder why.

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They specifically deferred the entry into that in order to preserve a home-and-home against Oklahoma. They'll keep a series with Oklahoma, but not two SEC schools? Wonder why.
Since 1980, Oklahoma has the same number of national championships (2) as Georgia and Tennessee combined (one each) and OK's is more recent (2000). Additionally, OSU also has a brief, though memorable, history with the Sooners. Suggesting the Bucks are ducking those two to play a softy is ludicrous.

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"The Big Ten/Pac-12 partnership, which ultimately will have 12 annual matchups between conference teams, is set to begin in 2017, although Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith told ESPN.com the Buckeyes likely won't begin participating until 2018."

They specifically deferred the entry into that in order to preserve a home-and-home against Oklahoma. They'll keep a series with Oklahoma, but not two SEC schools? Wonder why.
Is it because delaying it 1 year probably isn't a huge deal, but delaying it for 4-5 years isn't going to fly?

No it must be because the Buckeyes suck.

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Is it because delaying it 1 year probably isn't a huge deal, but delaying it for 4-5 years isn't going to fly?

No it must be because the Buckeyes suck.
In 2018, they have TCU and North Carolina on the schedule. In 2019, TCU and Cincinnati. 2020 and 2021 are open, save for Oregon (which I'd imagine would be consolidated into the official B1G/Pac-12 partnership).

Why drop the SEC schools?

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In 2018, they have TCU and North Carolina on the schedule. In 2019, TCU and Cincinnati. 2020 and 2021 are open, save for Oregon (which I'd imagine would be consolidated into the official B1G/Pac-12 partnership).

Why drop the SEC schools?
Obviously the only possible reason is that OSU is scared and terrible. They're Scarrible.

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...and this is why I've been avoiding these boards of late.

I am appalled that anyone - anyone - can continue to toot the SEC's horn after yesterday. Bama? Sure. The Pac-12? Yeah. Florida State? As much as it hurts to admit it, they deserved to leapfrog us. But the SEC? Seriously? Massively overrated this year.

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...and this is why I've been avoiding these boards of late.

I am appalled that anyone - anyone - can continue to toot the SEC's horn after yesterday. Bama? Sure. The Pac-12? Yeah. Florida State? As much as it hurts to admit it, they deserved to leapfrog us. But the SEC? Seriously? Massively overrated this year.
Who's tooting the SEC's horn? Was it the same person who said this just a week ago?

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A couple days ago, I was caught in that huge traffic jam on 71 north near 36/37. While trying to figure out what was going on, I had 610 on the radio, and they were interviewing former OSU quarterback Cornelius Greene. I happened to catch the part where he was asked about OSU's spot in the BCS rankings, and he said that until OSU actually schedules some real opponents instead of these cupcakes, they'll never be able to get into the top spots without a lot of help.

Clearly, Greene is a "hater" and an "SEC fanboy". Discuss.

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A couple days ago, I was caught in that huge traffic jam on 71 north near 36/37. While trying to figure out what was going on, I had 610 on the radio, and they were interviewing former OSU quarterback Cornelius Greene. I happened to catch the part where he was asked about OSU's spot in the BCS rankings, and he said that until OSU actually schedules some real opponents instead of these cupcakes, they'll never be able to get into the top spots without a lot of help.

Clearly, Greene is a "hater" and an "SEC fanboy". Discuss.
I think he is partially right but to me a bigger issue is how they struggle, at least on a relative basis, against not only some of the better cupcakes but also the Iowa's of the world. This year the defense is not as good as it has been in recent years.

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as the resident SEC fanboy...i will typically defend OSU's scheduling...Texas, VaTech, USC, etc are all major home and homes...I hate the OSU fan that says well Florida never leaves the SouthEast for a game...we don't because we have a major IN STATE opponent every year...

Cal was scheduled back when Aaron Rodgers was still there and Cal was on the upswing...they weren't "supposed" to be this bad

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A couple days ago, I was caught in that huge traffic jam on 71 north near 36/37. While trying to figure out what was going on, I had 610 on the radio, and they were interviewing former OSU quarterback Cornelius Greene. I happened to catch the part where he was asked about OSU's spot in the BCS rankings, and he said that until OSU actually schedules some real opponents instead of these cupcakes, they'll never be able to get into the top spots without a lot of help.
Corny was the best option QB I ever saw in college (yes, better than the Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska boys) and I agree with him on the scheduling issue completely. Where I differ with some here, is the idea that OSU is somehow unique in this. In any case, the new playoff system is going to put an end to the big powers, all of them, scheduling multiple cupcakes.

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A couple days ago, I was caught in that huge traffic jam on 71 north near 36/37. While trying to figure out what was going on, I had 610 on the radio, and they were interviewing former OSU quarterback Cornelius Greene. I happened to catch the part where he was asked about OSU's spot in the BCS rankings, and he said that until OSU actually schedules some real opponents instead of these cupcakes, they'll never be able to get into the top spots without a lot of help.

Clearly, Greene is a "hater" and an "SEC fanboy". Discuss.
"An old OSU quarterback appears to be saying something that agrees with something I have said. I am therefore correct."

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Corny was the best option QB I ever saw in college (yes, better than the Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska boys) and I agree with him on the scheduling issue completely. Where I differ with some here, is the idea that OSU is somehow unique in this. In any case, the new playoff system is going to put an end to the big powers, all of them, scheduling multiple cupcakes.
THIS. This, this, a thousand times this, a MILLION times this.

It's. Not. Just. Us.

That said, Greene might have a point, seeing as though the folks who actually make the rankings refuse to acknowledge this.

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THIS. This, this, a thousand times this, a MILLION times this.

It's. Not. Just. Us.

That said, Greene might have a point, seeing as though the folks who actually make the rankings refuse to acknowledge this.
Anyone is free to play cupcakes out of conference. A lot of teams do it. The difference is that Alabama won't get dinged for playing a MAC school because Alabama's in-conference schedule every single year is guaranteed to include LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, Texas A&M, both Mississippi schools, and Tennessee (a result of the permanent rivalry clause). Throw in another conference game that may well be Florida, Georgia, or South Carolina, then throw in the conference championship game.

Boise State used to whine and stamp their feet every single year because they would get dinged for playing MAC schools. Maybe it's just me, but that probably has something to do with the fact that they were playing a pathetically weak WAC schedule in-conference, then playing a non-conference schedule that looked like they played in a good conference. They'd say "Look, we played Oregon!"...and Miami University, Tulsa, Bowling Green, and UC-Davis (2009); or maybe it was Bowling Green, Southern Mississippi, and Idaho State (2008); or maybe it was Washington, Wyoming, Weber State, and Southern Miss (2007).

And right now, the B1G looks a hell of a lot closer to the WAC than it does to a conference that's actually, y'know, good. The voters do recognize this. That's why OSU is where they are and not higher.

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Anyone is free to play cupcakes out of conference. A lot of teams do it. The difference is that Alabama won't get dinged for playing a MAC school because Alabama's in-conference schedule every single year is guaranteed to include LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, Texas A&M, both Mississippi schools, and Tennessee (a result of the permanent rivalry clause). Throw in another conference game that may well be Florida, Georgia, or South Carolina, then throw in the conference championship game.
And virtually every single one of those teams is badly overrated this year. See: last Saturday.

Seriously. Take away the "but SEC is just inherently better" argument - for which there is no objective, demonstrable proof this year, and now lots of evidence against - and this falls apart completely. That is why people are (unfairly) calling you a "SEC fanboy" - because that's the only counterargument you've offered.

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Anyone know of a stream for OU vs Miami U? Only thing we've found is ESPN3 and we have no time warner code.

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Thanks, we are a house divided. I'm a Miami grad married to an OH grad with two OH kids. Outnumbered....

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And virtually every single one of those teams is badly overrated this year. See: last Saturday.

Seriously. Take away the "but SEC is just inherently better" argument - for which there is no objective, demonstrable proof this year, and now lots of evidence against - and this falls apart completely. That is why people are (unfairly) calling you a "SEC fanboy" - because that's the only counterargument you've offered.
With most of another day in the books, I feel confident in saying that the entire collective of college football is down this year compared to years past. Even the unbeaten teams at the top don't look as impressive as they have last year or the year before (or the year before).

This looks like 2007, only without everyone throwing away a #1 or #2 ranking on a weekly basis. There seems to be a clear top 4 or 5, then the next 20-25 spots are occupied by a lot of interchangeable teams of roughly the same caliber.

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With most of another day in the books, I feel confident in saying that the entire collective of college football is down this year compared to years past. Even the unbeaten teams at the top don't look as impressive as they have last year or the year before (or the year before).

This looks like 2007, only without everyone throwing away a #1 or #2 ranking on a weekly basis. There seems to be a clear top 4 or 5, then the next 20-25 spots are occupied by a lot of interchangeable teams of roughly the same caliber.
I see pretty much the same thing.

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OSU classlessly running up the score. Better dock them in the polls.

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