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10-27-2013, 12:08 AM
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Where does everyone stand on that call?
I think they got the call right. Middlebrooks may have fell trying to get the ball, but he almost dolphin kicks his legs up in the air to trip up Craig. Craig would've had a much better head of steam going into home plate if it weren't for that.

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10-27-2013, 11:08 AM
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Yeah I think they made the right call. And I'm not sure if they call it if Middlebrooks doesn't put his legs in the air. Although you could make the argument that Middlebrooks was moving his legs out of the baseline by putting them in the air. This will be a never ending debate.

Saltalamacchia shouldn't be making that throw though. He didn't learn from Breslow in game 2. Just play it safe.

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10-27-2013, 11:31 AM
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Looking at slow motion I don't think his legs going up had any impact on the trip/stumble. Question is if he had just laid there and the same thing happened would it have still been called obstruction? I don't think so, it's tough to say but I don't like the call. I say if questionable, considering the circumstances, just let them play it out.

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10-27-2013, 12:27 PM
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Looking at slow motion I don't think his legs going up had any impact on the trip/stumble. Question is if he had just laid there and the same thing happened would it have still been called obstruction? I don't think so, it's tough to say but I don't like the call. I say if questionable, considering the circumstances, just let them play it out.
That's the million dollar question isn't it? Frankly, I think had Middlebrooks just laid prone and made no attempt at a trip by throwing up his legs obstruction probably wouldn't have gotten called. Umps might've thought "Well if he tried to get up and bumped Craig, that could've knocked him over so lying prone doing nothing would've been his best option."

Of course those scenarios implies intent is either a part of it or not. And in interviews and in articles after the play it has been noted that intent doesn't matter. If you obstruct on purpose or by happenstance, you've obstructed. So had Craig tripped over Middlebrooks with or without him flailing his legs the "right" call of obstruction should have been made. Basically a lose/lose situation for him.

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10-29-2013, 12:56 PM
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Five years ago today ladies and gentlemen.

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Five years ago today ladies and gentlemen.
Lifelong Phillies fan and they HAD to win the world series while I was away at school in Ohio. Thanks for nothin!

Such an awesome memory though.

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10-29-2013, 03:44 PM
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Lifelong Phillies fan and they HAD to win the world series while I was away at school in Ohio. Thanks for nothin!

Such an awesome memory though.
Ouch, that stinks. I think that's one of those times you lie, beg, borrow or (petty) steal to find your way back to Philly. It shouldn't be with 4 franchises in this town, but for me it was a once-in-a-lifetime kind of event, and I just don't think you miss it if at all possible. I hate spoiled Boston, and wish a 50+ year pox on their franchises.

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Ouch, that stinks. I think that's one of those times you lie, beg, borrow or (petty) steal to find your way back to Philly. It shouldn't be with 4 franchises in this town, but for me it was a once-in-a-lifetime kind of event, and I just don't think you miss it if at all possible. I hate spoiled Boston, and wish a 50+ year pox on their franchises.
I was on a cruise ship in the middle of the Bahamas during the Flyers Hawks series a few years ago. They didn't win, but still. I did, however, get back in time to watch game 6 at home .

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10-30-2013, 08:50 PM
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Lifelong Phillies fan and they HAD to win the world series while I was away at school in Ohio. Thanks for nothin!

Such an awesome memory though.
Same I was in South Carolina for school. My dad wouldn't let me drive home. Worse, SC couldn't give a crap about pro sports. It sucked.

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10-30-2013, 09:16 PM
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Victorino is once again officially no longer a Phillie.

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10-30-2013, 09:20 PM
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Victorino is once again officially no longer a Phillie.
eh, he had two hits with the Phillies that were just as big as the two with Red Sox.

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10-30-2013, 09:22 PM
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Victorino is once again officially no longer a Phillie.
I liked how Howard Eskin was basically trashing Victorino last night on twitter & then Victorino has a night like tonight. I enjoy when that guy puts his foot in his mouth.

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10-30-2013, 10:23 PM
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Red Sox win it!

Really happy for Uehara and Victorino.

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10-30-2013, 10:37 PM
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Victorino still had a better postseason with the Phillies 2008. Look, media people may forget Shane as a Phillie but what matters is that Shane still remembers. And I think after retirement, if you gave him a choice, he would take Philadelphia.

Shane loves Philly and the fans love him. The flyin hawaiian was born in Philadelphia and he's not the type of guy to forget who the first team to give him a chance as a rule 5 was.

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10-30-2013, 10:40 PM
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I'm happy for Victorino, although I'll always think of him as a Phillie and if I were to guess, I'd say he would too. He established himself as a major leaguer in Philly, made the All Star team and won a championship.

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10-31-2013, 07:07 AM
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Happy for Victorino I guess...I'd be more happy for him if he had won it with like the A's or something lol.

Also to the guys who were away at school when the Phils won..I wasn't. But I had a midterm the day of the parade and my professor was a huge Mets fan. So yea.. I was here, in school.. during the parade.

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Yep I was in school at Ohio washing dishes when they won. FML.

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10-31-2013, 08:51 AM
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So I was at the Sixers game last night on the Suite level and Brent Celek was next to us. Miguel Cabrera was in there too but I didn't notice that until later in the night. Cabrera is coming to Philly!


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So I was at the Sixers game last night on the Suite level and Brent Celek was next to us. Miguel Cabrera was in there too but I didn't notice that until later in the night. Cabrera is coming to Philly!
Still can't believe the Sixers won last night. These stupid teams never do what we want them to. (Although part of me kind of likes that they beat Miami)

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10-31-2013, 06:33 PM
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So I was at the Sixers game last night on the Suite level and Brent Celek was next to us. Miguel Cabrera was in there too but I didn't notice that until later in the night. Cabrera is coming to Philly!
If that somehow involved Howard going the other way, it would probably be one of the greatest trades in Phillies history, if not the greatest.

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where would Cabrera play, a tombstone would be just as effective defensively as him.

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where would Cabrera play, a tombstone would be just as effective defensively as him.
If he was coming to Philly he could pitch for all I care.

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Told you I wasn't making it up haha.


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That's kind of surreal.

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