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10-27-2013, 03:31 PM
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Josi participated in full contact practice on Friday and reported no symptoms as of Saturday morning in his progression back to full play. There is no timeline on concussions and any setback can put him back to the full rest stage of recovery, but the team is off today and will have ample opportunity to practice Monday through Wednesday when they travel to Colorado. If Josi has no setbacks this week, he very possibly could be cleared to return on Thursday night at Colorado...
I hope Josi doesn't head to Colorado this week since the team plays at Phoenix on Thursday.

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10-27-2013, 03:54 PM
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If Josi can be back this week on next that would be huge with Rinne out.
Bartley or Ellis needs to sit and our defense will be much stronger. If he goes on the road trip then it is a good chance he will be playing in the next few weeks.

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10-27-2013, 04:11 PM
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I hope Josi doesn't head to Colorado this week since the team plays at Phoenix on Thursday.
I was getting ready to add that as well. The destination should be Phoenix for all participating Preds personnel on Wednesday for Thursday night's matchup.

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10-27-2013, 04:41 PM
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I hope Josi doesn't head to Colorado this week since the team plays at Phoenix on Thursday.
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Thanks for the correction!

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10-27-2013, 04:47 PM
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well, if we see Pekka back by Jan 1st, I'll be happy. If they're giving iv antibiotics I imagine he's not doing much.

Get well soon.

As for the rest of it, maybe the team will respond better than they did last night. Everybody needs a fire lit under them, from players to coaches. Frankly, unless there is something else going on with Stalberg, Trotz is making some errors. Big errors. As is Poile... Hendricks and Clune both just doesn't make sense for so many years.

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10-27-2013, 08:16 PM
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Ugh. That article is bad news...it means Pekka is getting IV antibiotics through a PICC line for at least 4 weeks, which probably means it's either: a) a hard-to-treat bacteria and/or b) in his blood too.

It sounds like being back to playing NHL hockey in a month would be a miracle.

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10-27-2013, 10:01 PM
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Ugh. That article is bad news...it means Pekka is getting IV antibiotics through a PICC line for at least 4 weeks, which probably means it's either: a) a hard-to-treat bacteria and/or b) in his blood too.

It sounds like being back to playing NHL hockey in a month would be a miracle.
I know...makes me think after Oly break if again this season. Just am hoping for his full recovery first, then playing hockey once he's 100% again.

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10-27-2013, 11:26 PM
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Welcome to the boards!

Josi participated in full contact practice on Friday and reported no symptoms as of Saturday morning in his progression back to full play. There is no timeline on concussions and any setback can put him back to the full rest stage of recovery, but the team is off today and will have ample opportunity to practice Monday through Wednesday when they travel to Colorado. If Josi has no setbacks this week, he very possibly could be cleared to return on Thursday night at Phoenix...
Thanks so much for the feedback, as well as the sending of good news.

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10-28-2013, 10:13 AM
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10-28-2013, 11:01 AM
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If Rinne had a cannula inserted for multiple weeks of antibiotic treatment, there's no way he will be back in a month. We should be hoping he recovers in general, and if that, he makes it back to the ice.

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10-28-2013, 11:56 AM
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What's the deal on deals like this ... lets say he had to retire due to degenerative hip, is there some kind of salary cap penalty towards the team wrt contract being voided due to him being put on LTIR or something to that effect ?

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10-28-2013, 12:42 PM
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What's the deal on deals like this ... lets say he had to retire due to degenerative hip, is there some kind of salary cap penalty towards the team wrt contract being voided due to him being put on LTIR or something to that effect ?
First of all..think positive thoughts! Positive! Now that we've got that out of the way I'm pretty sure Long Term Injury Reserve covers a significant portion, but I'm not sure there's a clause that would cover the whole thing. Closest theoretical comparable I can think of is Pronger.

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First of all..think positive thoughts! Positive! Now that we've got that out of the way I'm pretty sure Long Term Injury Reserve covers a significant portion, but I'm not sure there's a clause that would cover the whole thing. Closest theoretical comparable I can think of is Pronger.
http://capgeek.com/buyout-calculator...06&buyout_d=15

Buyout Details
SEASON SALARY CAP HIT BUYOUT SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT
2014-15 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $2,333,333 $4,666,667 $2,333,333
2015-16 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $2,333,333 $4,666,667 $2,333,333
2016-17 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $2,333,333 $4,666,667 $2,333,333
2017-18 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $2,333,333 $4,666,667 $2,333,333
2018-19 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $2,333,333 $4,666,667 $2,333,333
2019-20 $0 $0 $2,333,333 -$2,333,333 $2,333,333
2020-21 $0 $0 $2,333,333 -$2,333,333 $2,333,333
2021-22 $0 $0 $2,333,333 -$2,333,333 $2,333,333
2022-23 $0 $0 $2,333,333 -$2,333,333 $2,333,333
2023-24 $0 $0 $2,333,333 -$2,333,333 $2,333,333

Pekka Rinne is 31 years old on the buyout date of June 15, 2014, setting the buyout ratio at 2/3 and the total buyout cost at $23,333,333 spread over 10 years. His contract was originally valued at $49,000,000 beginning in 2012 and ending in 2019, with $35,000,000 remaining from the buyout year forward. The following is a season-by-season breakdown of the buyout. A negative buyout cap hit indicates a credit.

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10-28-2013, 01:00 PM
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I wasn't even thinking of the buyout scenario tbh. Shouldn't be more than 4-6 weeks.

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10-28-2013, 01:10 PM
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I don't think we should be playing Rinne's doctor here. If the team said a month, that is when you re-evaluate as a fan.

however I do remember Steve Sullivan was DTD for 2 years

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10-28-2013, 01:23 PM
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I don't think we should be playing Rinne's doctor here. If the team said a month, that is when you re-evaluate as a fan.

however I do remember Steve Sullivan was DTD for 2 years
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10-28-2013, 01:27 PM
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First of all, we want Pekka to recover with no long term ill effects from this.
I am not ready to talk buyout either. But if he is on continuous IV antibiotic treatment for 4 weeks, he will not be training or conditioning. So, best case, this is 100% cleared and he gets a clean bill after 1 month or so. He still has to get back to game shape. We are probably talking late December if all goes well.

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10-28-2013, 01:30 PM
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Why would Pekka except a buyout if it came to that?

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10-28-2013, 01:37 PM
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in the highly unlikely scenario that he can never ever come back, he wouldnt retire, he would go on LTIR just like Pronger is doing.. he gets his money, we get cap relief, insurance pays the contract, and we all move on


I think the bigger concern isnt that he wont come back, but that he will have some lasting effects on his mobility whenever he does come back

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As the doc said. But let's assume he will come back healthy and better than ever.

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10-28-2013, 05:46 PM
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in the highly unlikely scenario that he can never ever come back, he wouldnt retire, he would go on LTIR just like Pronger is doing.. he gets his money, we get cap relief, insurance pays the contract, and we all move on


I think the bigger concern isnt that he wont come back, but that he will have some lasting effects on his mobility whenever he does come back


This is correct. A buy out scenario isn't the way things would go.

Let's just hope Pekka recovers and has a normal life.

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10-29-2013, 11:36 AM
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Could this be MRSA/VRSA? If so, this could be very, very serious. Perhaps anyone reading this with a thorough background on infectious bacteria can give us some insight into what infection this could be.

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As per @RealKyper Pekka Rinne has an E.Coli infection in his hip & will likely miss 6-8 weeks.

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As per @RealKyper Pekka Rinne has an E.Coli infection in his hip & will likely miss 6-8 weeks.
Can anyone explain that? I'm confused.

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E. coli?! I am not sure I want to know how he got that. It's an intestinal bacteria

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