HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Madison Square Garden Renovations (Part VI)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-29-2013, 12:03 AM
  #751
wolfgaze
Interesting Cat
 
wolfgaze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 12,055
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by niinah View Post
LOL.
Went to my unobstructed seats in 215 and found some media desks blocking my view of a big chunk of the ice and the goal.

Called my rep who was in the building, was very accommodating, assuring me they will work this out to provide me something else, and comped us to 108 row 1, behind Montreal bench, for the game. We were not the only disgruntled season subscribers there... but those seats made up for the opening night disappointment (including poor performance by the Rangers).

Now, I am waiting to hear what they have to offer me... too bad I went ahead and sold a bunch of games on Stuhbub and to friends & craigslisters, worrying how I am able to make up for those. Should hear back from the rep within 1-2 days, can't wait to hear what unobstructed seats they have available...

The virtual seating view and actual photo below, "somewhat" different from expected
Wow it looks like those desks are obstructing the view of quite a few seats in that section.... Completely stupid to ruin the viewing experience of so many otherwise good seats just to put a dumb media/staff desk there?

wolfgaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:07 AM
  #752
niinah
Registered User
 
niinah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: White Plains NY
Country: Finland
Posts: 242
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfgaze View Post
Wow it looks like those desks are obstructing the view of quite a few seats in that section.... Completely stupid to ruin the viewing experience of so many otherwise good seats just to put a dumb media/staff desk there?
Exactly! Plus the desks looked like they were made of plywood and thrown up there at the last minute. As long as they don't block the Knicks I guess MSG doesn't care...

niinah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:45 AM
  #753
NYR957
Hagelin's pumped.
 
NYR957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 741
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by niinah View Post
Exactly! Plus the desks looked like they were made of plywood and thrown up there at the last minute. As long as they don't block the Knicks I guess MSG doesn't care...
Nah those desks were there last two seasons actually. Not going anywhere unfortunately for you. Actually relatively permanent.

NYR957 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:52 AM
  #754
niinah
Registered User
 
niinah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: White Plains NY
Country: Finland
Posts: 242
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR957 View Post
Nah those desks were there last two seasons actually. Not going anywhere unfortunately for you. Actually relatively permanent.
I see, thanks. Then there really is no excuse for the virtual view and selling these as unobstructed seats.

niinah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 01:05 AM
  #755
ChipAyten
NYR-LFC-NYG-NYY
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New York City
Country: England
Posts: 3,831
vCash: 500
The owner sets the tone on how business is done...

ChipAyten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 07:21 AM
  #756
patnyrnyg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,620
vCash: 500
Went to the game very nervous about these bridges. Was worrying that it would obstruct part of the ice. I sit in row 21 of 213. Got to my seats, no problem at all. My other concern was when I had to stand, the ice would be cut-off, but as I stood, could still see the entire ice. Could only see the bottom of the scoreboard, but I had a tv right in front of me, so I had a great look at all the replays. I did hear people behind me yelling about not being able to see the scoreboard and complaining about the bridges.

There were quite a few people walking on the bridges, but thinking that will subside. I didn't find it distracting at all.

Last season, I thought I would try to move to the last row, because I figured with the cramped leg room, in the back row I could stand if I was uncomfortable. Didn't bother as again, I was afraid the bridges would obstruct my view. After the game, walked up to the top, stood behind the last row and still had complete view of the ice.

I will post some pictures later, as I can't get on photobucket at work.

patnyrnyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 08:35 AM
  #757
Blueshirt Special
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Blueshirt Special's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 3,094
vCash: 500
I thought the bridges were very cool. Really well designed, classy even. I would not be surprised if other arenas start to adopt that design. I'd like to get those seats for a game or 2, but not for a full season.

I agree that the flow has improved and you really get a sense now that it is "done", whereas after the first phase, expectations were very high and it was somewhat disappointing on opening night. I guess that is just the downside of not being able to complete the entire reno in one shot. I imagine if it had gone from the old Garden to what we have now over the course on one summer if would have been an amazing opening.

Yes, the Garden was very quiet last night, but I think a lot of that can be attributed to the late opening after a dreadful road trip. So, it's not the first or second game of the season, when the minds of the fans are filled with "anything is possible". We pretty much already know what kind of team we have. Also, it's seems to have different acoustics, as well as a less enthusiastic crowd. Opening night after the LAST lockout was crazy, and we hadn't made the playoffs in 7 years!

__________________
WIN NOW
Blueshirt Special is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 09:15 AM
  #758
dstoffa
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 148
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by niinah View Post
LOL.
Went to my unobstructed seats in 215 and found some media desks blocking my view of a big chunk of the ice and the goal.

Called my rep who was in the building, was very accommodating, assuring me they will work this out to provide me something else, and comped us to 108 row 1, behind Montreal bench, for the game. We were not the only disgruntled season subscribers there... but those seats made up for the opening night disappointment (including poor performance by the Rangers).
Can you share any stories from your fellow season subscribers who were also disgruntled?

Quote:
Now, I am waiting to hear what they have to offer me... too bad I went ahead and sold a bunch of games on Stubhub and to friends & craigslisters, worrying how I am able to make up for those. Should hear back from the rep within 1-2 days, can't wait to hear what unobstructed seats they have available...
I would wait until they figure out where to put you, then contact the buyers. The Rangers may ask for your old ticket stock back before making an exchange, or they may just cancel the barcodes outright, and then you'd be on the hook to make it right.

I was quite pleased with my new location. Went up to visit my old neighbors in 222/223 between periods. I didn't see anyone in my old seats, so I wonder if they were down there in Row 1 with you...

Cheers!
-Doug

dstoffa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 09:24 AM
  #759
niinah
Registered User
 
niinah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: White Plains NY
Country: Finland
Posts: 242
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post
Can you share any stories from your fellow season subscribers who were also disgruntled?
The people next to us got their seats moved by 10 seats (I don't know how that's possible), though they had explicitly confirmed with their rep several times that this was not going to happen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post
I would wait until they figure out where to put you, then contact the buyers. The Rangers may ask for your old ticket stock back before making an exchange, or they may just cancel the barcodes outright, and then you'd be on the hook to make it right.
Yes will give it a few days.. my main concern now are the games I sold for this week! I only have electronic tickets in any case, so re-issue should be easy if they find some seats for me.
"Funny" thing is, since it does not say obstructed on my tickets, Stubhub said they have no problem with the tickets and I don't have to cancel the sales. I will not do that to people who paid good money for a view of the ice though, so will figure it out somehow, hopefully I will get some seats to offer in exchange for the same price.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post
I was quite pleased with my new location. Went up to visit my old neighbors in 222/223 between periods. I didn't see anyone in my old seats, so I wonder if they were down there in Row 1 with you...

Cheers!
-Doug
Good to hear things went smoothly for you!


Last edited by niinah: 10-29-2013 at 09:34 AM.
niinah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 09:38 AM
  #760
trueblue9441
Registered User
 
trueblue9441's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bronx, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 3,400
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to trueblue9441
i moved my seats from 213 row 19 to 213 row 16 for this season due to the bridges and i have to say im pleasantly surprised about the view. the bridges aren't as bad as i thought they would be and are not a distraction at all. i miss part of the upper portion of the scoreboard, but there is a tv positioned right in my line of sight.

trueblue9441 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:02 AM
  #761
irishlaxburger2
Registered User
 
irishlaxburger2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Notre Dame, IN
Country: United States
Posts: 1,925
vCash: 500
How are the TVs on the bridges for those not able to see Gardenvision? How big are they? Do they show the exact same content? Do they include stats like the new Gardenvision does (granted, that didn't work last nite which was apparently a problem on the NHL's end, not MSG's)? Etc

Basically, do the TV's do a satisfactory job of replacing Gardenvision for those with an obstructed view?

irishlaxburger2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:07 AM
  #762
trueblue9441
Registered User
 
trueblue9441's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bronx, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 3,400
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to trueblue9441
Quote:
Originally Posted by irishlaxburger2 View Post
How are the TVs on the bridges for those not able to see Gardenvision? How big are they? Do they show the exact same content? Do they include stats like the new Gardenvision does (granted, that didn't work last nite which was apparently a problem on the NHL's end, not MSG's)? Etc

Basically, do the TV's do a satisfactory job of replacing Gardenvision for those with an obstructed view?
yes, shows the feed thats on garden vision and that stats that are on the upper ribbon board on the scoreboard.

trueblue9441 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:28 AM
  #763
dstoffa
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 148
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by niinah View Post
The people next to us got their seats moved by 10 seats (I don't know how that's possible), though they had explicitly confirmed with their rep several times that this was not going to happen.
I am at a loss...

People who were comped seats next to you had their seats moved by 10 seats yet their rep said that wasn't going to happen? Then how did it happen? And where are/were their seats?


Cheers!
-Doug

dstoffa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:29 AM
  #764
dstoffa
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 148
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by niinah View Post
LOL.
Went to my unobstructed seats in 215 and found some media desks blocking my view of a big chunk of the ice and the goal.
That is what is known as an architectural shadow....

dstoffa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:35 AM
  #765
highandwide
It's gold Jerry.
 
highandwide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SF, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 722
vCash: 500
Maybe I'm grumpy...

The new garden is beautiful but I didn't find anything I actually liked about it. The seats are smaller, hard to walk in and out of rows, the hallways are crowded, hard to walk through..

however, the abundance of bathrooms is a plus..

highandwide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:36 AM
  #766
niinah
Registered User
 
niinah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: White Plains NY
Country: Finland
Posts: 242
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post
I am at a loss...
People who were comped seats next to you had their seats moved by 10 seats yet their rep said that wasn't going to happen? Then how did it happen? And where are/were their seats?
I don't know the details, I am at a loss too... but they seemed pretty upset about it. (I believe the seats were somewhere at 200's but that's all I got, sorry)

niinah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:49 AM
  #767
nevesis
#30
 
nevesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 8,423
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by irishlaxburger2 View Post
How are the TVs on the bridges for those not able to see Gardenvision? How big are they? Do they show the exact same content? Do they include stats like the new Gardenvision does (granted, that didn't work last nite which was apparently a problem on the NHL's end, not MSG's)? Etc

Basically, do the TV's do a satisfactory job of replacing Gardenvision for those with an obstructed view?
They aren't really traditional TV's, more like smaller scoreboards. I was in Section 222, row 8, and while I had a great view of the actual scoreboard, I would look up at the bridge and a mini scoreboard was right above me. It was VERY big from where I was. Must look more 'normal' sized to someone in the upper rows of the upper bowl.

Also, they installed big speakers in the bridges that face everyone in the upper bowl so the P.A. sounds MUCH more clear and LOUD.

nevesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 10:55 AM
  #768
irishlaxburger2
Registered User
 
irishlaxburger2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Notre Dame, IN
Country: United States
Posts: 1,925
vCash: 500
Awesome, thanks guys. Glad management made the TVs a suitable replacement for those with an obstructed view of Gardenvision

irishlaxburger2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 11:04 AM
  #769
patnyrnyg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,620
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by irishlaxburger2 View Post
How are the TVs on the bridges for those not able to see Gardenvision? How big are they? Do they show the exact same content? Do they include stats like the new Gardenvision does (granted, that didn't work last nite which was apparently a problem on the NHL's end, not MSG's)? Etc

Basically, do the TV's do a satisfactory job of replacing Gardenvision for those with an obstructed view?
Tvs are big. They do a great job of making up for the obstruction of the scoreboard, but like I said in my earlier post, tv is right in front of me. They are set up every other section. 213 has one, 211 has one, but 214 and 212 does not. Not sure how they appear from an angle if your section does not have a tv.

patnyrnyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:21 PM
  #770
PassShootScore
208 Row 18
 
PassShootScore's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 634
vCash: 1150
here is the view from my seats, section 208 row 18. like the bridges better then i thought i would. i can still see everything when i stand aganit the wall also
Attached Images
File Type: jpg new seats .JPG‎ (135.8 KB, 84 views)

PassShootScore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:27 PM
  #771
GordonGecko
Stanley Cup 2015
 
GordonGecko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New York City
Country: United States
Posts: 3,692
vCash: 50
that's cool, so far it seems the only real bad seats are from niinah in 215 where MSG apparently forgot that a rink is wider than a basketball court and he can't see the Rangers goal.

GordonGecko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:47 PM
  #772
mrjimmyg89
'13-'14 East Champs
 
mrjimmyg89's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,847
vCash: 500
Sat in section 310, corner bridge seats. There was only 1 exit for the row. That was the only issue. Other than that, the seats were great. If Everyone is willing to, when you stand, nobody is obstructed, meaning you can stand over the glass that is in front of you. We were in row 1, but row 2 said they were good. Got to see John Amirante as he walked through the 30th and 4th level. Saw Matt Harvey outside of MSG before the game with his girl friend. He has a brace on his pitching arm fyi. Showed him on Gardenvision.

We were very close to Slats and the scratches. So much, the only way for Sather to leave is a general exit that was blocked by security. Bet he hates the seats, he is open for anything, and with the performance last night, heard it from myself and several other people.

There is a lot of leg room and the seats give to more room. I'm a bigger guy and it was great. More room than any other seats.

The renovation is great. And the view from the bridge puts a different perspective on the game. Have to get used to being above the play though. Some pucks loom to be in other places above first, but depth perception kicks in after a couple minutes.

This is right above section 227. The last rows in 227 are the worst seats ever. If you stand, cannot see near side net. Cannot see corner sitting down. No screen to look at and garden vision is not visible. Do not buy those seats, even for an Islander fan.

mrjimmyg89 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:54 PM
  #773
NYRFAN218
Mac Truck
 
NYRFAN218's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 11,828
vCash: 500
This is my view from 225 row 15. This one was taken sitting down.



This one was taken standing up.



So basically I can see everything except when I stand where it gets cut off slightly which isn't a big deal at all. Like I said earlier, there was basically no one walking on the bridge during the game which was great. It's also a good thing they didn't put the LED board going across the bridge like the original renditions had because I could imagine that being extremely distracting. The boards they have now are great though they could probably use an extra one or two. After I got used to the new view, I didn't even notice the bridges after the first. All in all it's a lot better than I thought it would be though I could see why people in the last couple of rows wouldn't be happy.

__________________
http://hfboards.com/image.php?u=53946&type=sigpic&dateline=1320361610
NYRFAN218 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 12:56 PM
  #774
boyle2boyle
Registered User
 
boyle2boyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Queens via London
Posts: 743
vCash: 500
Thought this was pretty cool:

http://ny.eater.com/archives/2013/10...s_and_more.php

For anyone not familiar with ABC Cocina and their tacos, I highly recommend you change that

boyle2boyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-29-2013, 01:21 PM
  #775
GordonGecko
Stanley Cup 2015
 
GordonGecko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New York City
Country: United States
Posts: 3,692
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjimmyg89 View Post
This is right above section 227. The last rows in 227 are the worst seats ever. If you stand, cannot see near side net. Cannot see corner sitting down. No screen to look at and garden vision is not visible. Do not buy those seats, even for an Islander fan.
Do you know someone who sat there or is that your take from sitting there? Which row?

GordonGecko is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:52 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.