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10-29-2013, 01:52 PM
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According to the website justsportsstats.com They had Tobin with the following:
1912-13
12 Games 11 Goals 3 Assists
1913-14
14 Games 5 Goals 2 Assists
1914-15
18 Games 11 Goals 2 Assists
Yes, and the career totals you posted are high by 14 games and 7 points, so I'm speculating that you counted 1914 twice.


Bubba: Google Lee John Fogolin and I think it's clear he meant to choose the senior. I deleted your post as it mentioned an undrafted.

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10-29-2013, 02:02 PM
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Dang, that’s a good pick. I had him at the top of my list with a bullet for spares, but that’s not to say he couldn’t play a role in a starting lineup. The fact that he played C (15%), LW (17%), RW (40%), and D (22%) in nearly equal proportion hurts him somewhat, I think, because he gets pigeonholed into a spare slot, and if he doesn’t make it into the MLD (which he definitely should have, considering the choice between him and Walter Smaill turned out to be a really difficult one and I left convinced that Smaill had what it took for an ATD spare role), then he might drop all the way to AAA spare. So kudos for making him a regular.
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Jim Riley’s a guy who GMs keep getting seduced by since he was 2nd and 3rd in PCHA goals, (5th and 5th in points), but Tobin had a season in 3rd as well (3rd in points), and when he did it, he led his next highest teammate by 8 points. He didn’t have a second season to “support” that peak like Riley did, but on the whole, despite playing a lot of games on defense, Tobin had 131 points in 174 PCHA games, and Riley had 120 in 164 games.
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I’d personally take Tobin over Riley for the versatility and because that versatility didn’t hurt his scoring stats. But the last three drafts he’s averaged pick #1266, and Riley’s averaged #942. That’s a huge, unwarranted gap. They both moved closer together (separated by just 53 picks now) and hopefully next season they swap spots for good.

Side note, I think you counted 1914 twice, as you're over on his career totals by 7 points and 14 games, and those were his stats that season.
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Yes, and the career totals you posted are high by 14 games and 7 points, so I'm speculating that you counted 1914 twice.


Bubba: Google Lee John Fogolin and I think it's clear he meant to choose the senior. I deleted your post as it mentioned an undrafted.
i'm going by Their career totals.
Charlie Tobin scored 101 goals and recorded 30 assists for 131 points in his 188-game career with the New Westminster Royals, Portland Rosebuds, Victoria Aristocrats, Seattle Metropolitans and Vancouver Millionaires. He began playing during the 1912 season and last took the ice during the 1921 campaign.

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10-29-2013, 02:04 PM
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I'll take a guy who was not only successful in the NHL, but also at the Senior Level when he was in competition with the likes of Moose Watson and Carson Cooper.

C - Bill Carson
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10-29-2013, 02:21 PM
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Lions selects Shawn McEachern, F


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10-29-2013, 02:23 PM
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i'm going by Their career totals.
Charlie Tobin scored 101 goals and recorded 30 assists for 131 points in his 188-game career with the New Westminster Royals, Portland Rosebuds, Victoria Aristocrats, Seattle Metropolitans and Vancouver Millionaires. He began playing during the 1912 season and last took the ice during the 1921 campaign.
Oh, ok.

Someone else counted wrong then.

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10-29-2013, 04:21 PM
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Yes, and the career totals you posted are high by 14 games and 7 points, so I'm speculating that you counted 1914 twice.


Bubba: Google Lee John Fogolin and I think it's clear he meant to choose the senior. I deleted your post as it mentioned an undrafted.
Doh! Looks like I may have to change my drafting plans, eh?

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10-29-2013, 04:50 PM
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Wolverines selects Ray Sheppard, RW



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10-29-2013, 05:45 PM
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Damn, I was going to draft Sheppard next.

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10-29-2013, 06:00 PM
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Yeah, Sheppard's a good pick; I had him in the 2012 drafts. Such a good goal scorer.

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10-29-2013, 08:41 PM
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Active players have to have 300+ games to qualify.....how many games for GK's?

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10-29-2013, 08:46 PM
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Active players have to have 300+ games to qualify.....how many games for GK's?
So, you expect the only active NHLer you will draft is a goaltender? We haven't had that problem ever. You only need one player from each era to have your team qualify for the playoffs.

If it came down to it, 300 games for a skater is almost four full seasons, and goalies play 40-50 games a season so over four seasons a goalie with 180 NHL games, including playoffs, should suffice as the bare minimum.

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10-30-2013, 01:16 AM
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Rome selects 1947-48 2nd Team All-Star RW Bud Poile

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10-30-2013, 08:58 AM
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Doh! Looks like I may have to change my drafting plans, eh?
Or make a trade.

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10-30-2013, 09:03 AM
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The Blackwood Bullies are proud to select:
Center Alexei Guryshev


USSR Awards:
Best Scorer ( Goals)
1949
1953
1955
1957
1958

All Stars:
1949
1955
1956
1957

International Games ( Team USSR):
71 Goals in 92 Games
IIHF World Championships Gold Medal in 1954

USSR/Russian Elite League:
379 Goals in 300 Games
3rd highest Goal scorer in league history

Olympic Gold Medal 1956

Awarded the Order of the Badge of Honor in 1957

Described as the "Phil Esposito of the early decades Russian hockey," Guryshev is the third highest scorer in Soviet hockey history with 379 career goals, trailing only Boris Mikhailov and Vyacheslav Starshinov. He was a scoring machine, adding 35 goals in 41 Olympic/World championship games. Like Esposito, Guryshev often scored on rebounds and in the slot. His shot was reportedly extremely heavy, despite next to no wind up.


He teamed expertly on a line with Pyotr Kotov and Sergi Mitin, and later with Nikolai Khlystov and Mikhail Bychkov. Wings coach Vladimir Yegorov wisely built his lines around Guryshev's sharpshooter abilities. He made sure Guryshev's wingers were speed demons who could draw defenses to them, and then place a perfect pass to the lurking Guryshev. He would elegantly slide undetected into position and in a split second fire the puck on net.


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10-30-2013, 09:06 AM
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DaveG trades Art Jackson and his day 20 pick to seventieslord, for seventieslord's 6th and 8th picks.

So I don't get a pick today and DaveG gets two. He selects Andrew Cassels and Dutch Reibel, both centers.

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10-30-2013, 09:13 AM
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The Barracuda select C John Cullen. Good defense while not giving up much offense. Will need him beside Kessel.

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10-30-2013, 09:23 AM
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With our Day 6 pick the Atlanta Knights are proud to select Right Winger Brian Gionta



With 7 20 Goal Seasons Gionta should add scoring touch to the 2nd line of the Knights.

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The Barracuda select C John Cullen. Good defense while not giving up much offense. Will need him beside Kessel.
Oh you SOB, that was my next pick.

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10-30-2013, 09:25 AM
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Nice pick, was quite prepared to select him today.

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10-30-2013, 09:35 AM
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The Boston Cubs select RW Donald Audette.

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10-30-2013, 11:03 AM
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The Human Beings select Jimmy Carson C

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10-30-2013, 12:21 PM
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The Wolverines will add Keith Brown, D to their roster.


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10-30-2013, 12:45 PM
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Rome selects C Hib Milks

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10-30-2013, 12:53 PM
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Rebels select 6'5 mobile Brent Burns, who logged 22+ minutes a game for half a decade on the Minnesota Wild blueline in his 9+ year NHL career in which he has had a bit of success at right wing as well. He was the Tourney's Best Defenseman in the 2008 World Championships bluelining Canada to the Gold medal game with 9 points in 9 games.



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Is both incredibly mobile and athletic in general. Also boasts tremendous size, to go with his great skating ability. Is mature enough to handle converting from right wing to defense--and then back to right wing again--flawlessly.


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10-30-2013, 01:31 PM
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The London Lions selects Ivan Boldirev, LW


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