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10-29-2013, 08:56 PM
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My player ratings from tonight's game (based on player value in game, 10 = best game ever, 1 = worst game ever, 5+ = net positive contribution, 5- = net negative contribution)
Raffl (6.0) Giroux (6.5) Lecavalier (4.5)
Hartnell (6.0) Schenn (5.0) Voracek (6.0)
Read (4.5) Couturier (5.0) Simmonds (6.0)
Rosehill (5.5) Talbot (5.5) Rinaldo (5.0)
Timonen (3.0) Meszaros (5.5)
Grossmann (5.0) Coburn (6.0)
Streit (2.5) Schenn (4.0)
Mason (6.5)

I tip my cap to the Ducks. They took the momentum and never looked back. Getzlaf line played amazing in the third and I would've given Lindholm an 8.5 or 9.0 rating had i kept track of the Ducks players.

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10-29-2013, 08:57 PM
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Giroux just blamed the first goal against on a fluke bounce and used a bit of revisionist history to say that if things went slightly differently it would be a good result.

I get that he can't bash his teammates and I get that he has to stay positive, but don't paint a turd gold and try to pretend it's worth something. Don't blame everything on a lucky bounce or pretend that if the game was mistake free everything would have turned out fine.

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10-29-2013, 08:57 PM
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again.. why the **** was Gus scratched?
Great question. Mez is useless. Anyone that can't see that by now is a moron.

He had one good season here and has otherwise been hurt or a terrible player. He brings nothing to the table.

On the other hand good things happen when Gus is on the ice but he's benched.

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10-29-2013, 08:57 PM
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Unless we trade a long time problem child like Mez, Colburn or somehow Hartnell, I'd rather stand pat.

If we do trade, blow the whole thing up. Keep Roo and Mason.

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10-29-2013, 08:58 PM
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I think there needs to be a trade but I really don't think there will be one. I want them to trade for a legit first line LW so badly.

I'd be surprised if there's a trade to be honest, I think they're going to wait until it's too late or not trade at all.
G is a top paid player who already has Vinny. He should make the LW , like Maroon is on Anh.

We need a pmd like we always have.

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10-29-2013, 08:58 PM
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Agreed. This team lacks a lot of talent. It is made up of 2nd and 3rd line forwards and at best 2nd pair defensemen or worst. No one or two players is going to fix this mess. And what would the point be of selling out to make the playoffs when they have zero shot against the elite teams in the league.
Pretty much. Unless this team plays better as a whole we stand not chance at doing anything serious this season so why make a trade to add one player to even attempt that? That's the kind of crap that people would yell at Holmgren over after it didn't work.

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I like Kimmo but I think the dude's done, that's my unusual suspect to get **** contribution for the night.

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10-29-2013, 08:59 PM
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Great question. Mez is useless. Anyone that can't see that by now is a moron.

He had one good season here and has otherwise been hurt or a terrible player. He brings nothing to the table.

On the other hand good things happen when Gus is on the ice but he's benched.
He had that rep when we traded for him from Tampa.

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10-29-2013, 09:00 PM
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I like Kimmo but I think the dude's done, that's my unusual suspect to get **** contribution for the night.
agreed. In all honestly he has been playing like this for the past 2 years. I think Berube has the balls to play him 15 min and less.

Lets hope to Kaberle him.

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When Voracek is skating like that we are A 2 line team, and with couturier shuting down top lines that line performs. It's G's line that sucks. G has yet to show himself as a dominate top line EV player.
Yet we are still here with scoring no more than 2 goals in a game again.

In the past, I was in favour of splitting up G and Jake. Right now, i do whatever it takes to get G going. And if that means pairing G and Jake together, so be it. If he gets an ounce of confidence, he will take off.

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Rather have Meszaros play than Kimmo right now.

Rather have anyone play instead of Rosehill. Wtf is Berube thinking sending him out there? Bring up Holmstrom, play Hall... anything but this awful Rinaldo and Rosehill combo.

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My player ratings from tonight's game (based on player value in game, 10 = best game ever, 1 = worst game ever, 5+ = net positive contribution, 5- = net negative contribution)
Raffl (6.0) Giroux (6.5) Lecavalier (4.5)
Hartnell (6.0) Schenn (5.0) Voracek (6.0)
Read (4.5) Couturier (5.0) Simmonds (6.0)
Rosehill (5.5) Talbot (5.5) Rinaldo (5.0)
Timonen (3.0) Meszaros (5.5)
Grossmann (5.0) Coburn (6.0)
Streit (2.5) Schenn (4.0)
Mason (6.5)

I tip my cap to the Ducks. They took the momentum and never looked back. Getzlaf line played amazing in the third and I would've given Lindholm an 8.5 or 9.0 rating had i kept track of the Ducks players.
Ok... Read scores a goal and is a net negative. Rosehill and Mez do nothing to speak of and are a net positive?

These ratings are useless

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10-29-2013, 09:03 PM
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Yet we are still here with scoring no more than 2 goals in a game again.

In the past, I was in favour of splitting up G and Jake. Right now, i do whatever it takes to get G going. And if that means pairing G and Jake together, so be it. If he gets an ounce of confidence, he will take off.
Really? Cause that didn't happen last year. We had to cater everything to G to get him going last year.

G is a perimeter player in EV stiuations. he does not have the Physicality , speed , muscle to get where he wants to on the Ice. He is playing more like a top line winger then a Top line center.

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agreed. In all honestly he has been playing like this for the past 2 years. I think Berube has the balls to play him 15 min and less.

Lets hope to Kaberle him.
I'm in complete agreement that Kimmo has been horrid this season

But last season he was still quite useful. Not quite 2009 Kimmo but he was still a top pairing guy. He's fell fast this season

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Giroux just blamed the first goal against on a fluke bounce and used a bit of revisionist history to say that if things went slightly differently it would be a good result.

I get that he can't bash his teammates and I get that he has to stay positive, but don't paint a turd gold and try to pretend it's worth something. Don't blame everything on a lucky bounce or pretend that if the game was mistake free everything would have turned out fine.
He's not wrong, that was a lucky bounce off the boards that went right to the guys stick and Mason still almost made the save. That goal seemed to take away a lot of momentum and up until that point they were playing great. That's not an excuse for how poor the 3rd period was but it very well may have been a large contributing factor. I could absolutely see this game ending in a win if that lucky bounce hadn't happened. It's also frustrating that both Mez and Raffl missed wide open nets...

Overall I'm not too worried. They've shown that they can play great against a top team (the first 30 minutes) but the problem is that after an unlucky bounce they lose focus and momentum. I can see them going on a win streak in the next couple weeks based on the teams they're playing against. I'm still optimistic.

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10-29-2013, 09:04 PM
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Funny that we are scratching a NHL level d-man every game yet we DRESS the wasted space Rosehill!

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10-29-2013, 09:05 PM
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Sorry, but this team isn't slow.

This team plays sloppy and turns the puck over. That kind of crap makes you look scattered and not so fast
This. When they were connecting and moving up the ice smoothly they looked fine speedwise. and looked slow again when they weren't. When you can hit everything on the fly you'll just move faster as a team.

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Who is the strength and conditioning coach?

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Who is the strength and conditioning coach?
We don't have one. McCrossing acts as a Trainer and i assume assists in that area which makes no sense since the two have nothing in common with one another

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And Jvr just scores

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We don't have one. McCrossing acts as a Trainer and i assume assists in that area which makes no sense since the two have nothing in common with one another
Wait, they seriously don't have one? This is 2013, not 1920.

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Funny that we are scratching a NHL level d-man every game yet we DRESS the wasted space Rosehill!
Gladly dress 7 d. Good ol Flyers hockey, have to have the least talented scrub on the ice !

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Wait, they seriously don't have one? This is 2013, not 1920.
Nope. The assistant guy is the Head for the Phantoms but the flyers don' have a s and c coach

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Another disappointing loss, I think Mason and Read have been our most consistent players.

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10-29-2013, 09:11 PM
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Don't even want to imagine this team without Steve Mason.

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He's not wrong, that was a lucky bounce off the boards that went right to the guys stick and Mason still almost made the save. That goal seemed to take away a lot of momentum and up until that point they were playing great. That's not an excuse for how poor the 3rd period was but it very well may have been a large contributing factor. I could absolutely see this game ending in a win if that lucky bounce hadn't happened. It's also frustrating that both Mez and Raffl missed wide open nets...

Overall I'm not too worried. They've shown that they can play great against a top team (the first 30 minutes) but the problem is that after an unlucky bounce they lose focus and momentum. I can see them going on a win streak in the next couple weeks based on the teams they're playing against. I'm still optimistic.
Except that that lucky bounce happened because directly before it Grossmann passed the puck straight to the Ducks player that shot that lucky bounce at the blue-line. To blame it on a lucky bounce is absolving anyone of our players of blame (specifically Grossmann) and painting a turd gold.

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