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10-29-2013, 09:11 PM
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Dam I hope we keep our first this year. So scared of the incoming trade !

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Great question. Mez is useless. Anyone that can't see that by now is a moron.

He had one good season here and has otherwise been hurt or a terrible player. He brings nothing to the table.

On the other hand good things happen when Gus is on the ice but he's benched.
Mez missing the shot from 15 feet out by a wide margin should get him parked again.

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10-29-2013, 09:12 PM
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Really? Cause that didn't happen last year. We had to cater everything to G to get him going last year.

G is a perimeter player in EV stiuations. he does not have the Physicality , speed , muscle to get where he wants to on the Ice. He is playing more like a top line winger then a Top line center.
That's all fine and wonderful. All I'm saying is it only makes sense to put your best player, especially when hes in a slump, in the best position possible to be effective. And right now, IMO thats with Jake.

You can argue all day long whether Giroux should play on the wing or in the middle. What can't be argued is that Giroux has the potential to explode. It's silly to waste that and not make every effort possible to re-ignite the fire he has in him.

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Even 3 extra points from all theses close games and we would be right in the division ?

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10-29-2013, 09:12 PM
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Eleven games in and if it weren't for the Islanders we would have scored one or two goals every single game. Consistently horrible offense.

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10-29-2013, 09:13 PM
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Jim McCrossin serves as trainer and strength/conditioning coach. He is certified in both areas.

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10-29-2013, 09:14 PM
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One of those times I hate guaranteed contracts.

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10-29-2013, 09:16 PM
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One of those times I hate guaranteed contracts.
And ntc's.

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10-29-2013, 09:17 PM
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Eleven games in and if it weren't for the Islanders we would have scored one or two goals every single game. Consistently horrible offense.
Enter Mr Dufflin Buffalin.

And jets are gonna **** Holmer on the deal.

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10-29-2013, 09:18 PM
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I stopped watching after the terrible loss to Vancouver but the big win over NYI suckered me back in. But this loss was worse so I'm out again. Not going to watch a second of live action till they are back to .500. So maybe not till October 2014.

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10-29-2013, 09:19 PM
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That's all fine and wonderful. All I'm saying is it only makes sense to put your best player, especially when hes in a slump, in the best position possible to be effective. And right now, IMO thats with Jake.

You can argue all day long whether Giroux should play on the wing or in the middle. What can't be argued is that Giroux has the potential to explode. It's silly to waste that and not make every effort possible to re-ignite the fire he has in him.
Okay so let's say you put Giroux with Voracek and all of a sudden Giroux starts scoring . Is it because Giroux is exploding or because Voracek is making him look good?

I think its more of the 2nd.

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10-29-2013, 09:25 PM
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Don't even want to imagine this team without Steve Mason.



Except that that lucky bounce happened because directly before it Grossmann passed the puck straight to the Ducks player that shot that lucky bounce at the blue-line. To blame it on a lucky bounce is absolving anyone of our players of blame (specifically Grossmann) and painting a turd gold.

I know, every team makes mistakes in hockey games, but not every mistake leads to a goal like that. It was still a lucky bounce, Grossmann making a mistake doesn't change that, just like it being a lucky bounce doesn't excuse Grossmanns mistake. And like I said, it's not an excuse for the way they played in the third but it looked like a lot of the cause.

I'm not painting a turd gold, I'm telling you it isn't a turd at all. It's something good that's just broken right now and has shown that it can be fixed even if it isn't fixed quite yet.

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Snider needs to put Holmgren on probation. He's a ticking time bomb at this point. I can't see how he can possibly come out on top of any trade he makes with the team in this state

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10-29-2013, 09:26 PM
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I stopped watching after the terrible loss to Vancouver but the big win over NYI suckered me back in. But this loss was worse so I'm out again. Not going to watch a second of live action till they are back to .500. So maybe not till October 2014.
Not much of a fan then. How can you say you support a team when you won't watch them unless they're winning.

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10-29-2013, 09:27 PM
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Yeah, I'm honestly afraid of any potential trades Holmgren may make right now.

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10-29-2013, 09:29 PM
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so I guess the $10 tickets were justified tonight. lololol

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Not much of a fan then. How can you say you support a team when you won't watch them unless they're winning.
It's one thing to not win. It's quite another to perform far under potential and look horrible for every game played consistently. Outside of the Islanders game this is a historically bad offensive team in terms of output, it's last in the standings now I believe, and we have a GM that ****ed up by keeping a coach for three games we all wanted gone and the GM himself is someone a lot of us have wanted gone for a while now.

He has every right to not waste his time which is pretty much all these games have been for the most part.

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10-29-2013, 09:31 PM
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Okay so let's say you put Giroux with Voracek and all of a sudden Giroux starts scoring . Is it because Giroux is exploding or because Voracek is making him look good?

I think its more of the 2nd.
Players develop chemistry with eachother. I'd argue G's potential success would be a product of their familiarity/comfort with eachother. Something along the lines of the G-Jagr relationship. I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who believes Giroux was a product of Jagr. They simply worked well together.

I'm also of the opinion that once Giroux gets the massive monkey off his back, he will loosen up, stop trying to force everything and inevitably starting racking up the points. Maybe it's naive, but a this stage I'd rather see him get hot, followed by another cold period, than not put him in the best position to succeed and never know.

I mean, this team is 3-8 through 11. Is there honestly any harm in experimenting? Things cant get worse

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10-29-2013, 09:33 PM
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G has not been himself but I'm not that worried about him. He's unfortunately not the type of player that can do it all himself. That's just the way it is.

But he's still a great player. He just needs to make it click. When so much of your game is playmaking, being a step off from your linemates hurts your game a lot

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10-29-2013, 09:34 PM
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Players develop chemistry with eachother. I'd argue G's potential success would be a product of their familiarity/comfort with eachother. Something along the lines of the G-Jagr relationship. I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who believes Giroux was a product of Jagr.

I'm also of the opinion that once Giroux gets the massive monkey off his back, he will loosen up, stop trying to force everything and inevitably starting racking up the points. Maybe it's naive, but a this stage I'd rather see him get hot, followed by another cold period, than not put him in the best position to succeed and never know.

I mean, this team is 3-8 through 11. Is there honestly any harm in experimenting? Things cant get worse
I agree, that is the inevitable course of action. But What i see happening is that this will become a 1 line team like last year. We have two dynamic offensive players, and when they are together everyone else struggles.

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10-29-2013, 09:34 PM
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Im disgusted...Giroux is just a shell of his former self...I was embarassed when he dove into the boards and then moreso with his play this game. I would honestly not be a fan of Giroux if he was on another team.

This has got to end. If you cant string together a complete 60 minutes since that Boston Comeback in the playoffs a couple years ago, something has got to change.

Im not saying blow it up but these guys just arent giving a **** anymore after the first 20 minutes i was excited but i knew by 10 minutes into the second the direction the game was gonna go.

Im so beyond angry with G and he really needs to step up.

Kimmo is done...and so am I.

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10-29-2013, 09:39 PM
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Yeah, I'm honestly afraid of any potential trades Holmgren may make right now.
I wonder if he has been neutered and waiting till end of year to step down. Ain't his MO to do nothing here.

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10-29-2013, 09:46 PM
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Can't win- after all the years with a decent offence and defence but goal-tenders who sometimes couldn't stop a beach ball (except for Bobrovsky who was apparently passed along when he was just coming into his prime), we finally seem to have a goal-tender who makes good stops at the right time coupled with an offence and defence which **** the bed.

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10-29-2013, 09:47 PM
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Can someone explain to me what the Flyers needs are? It seems like they are a decent team that lacks a true #1D.

When I look at your roster, I see a solid team capable of taking the wild card spots.

Going into the season I thought Mason was going to kill any chance of the Flyers making the playoffs but he's been great.

I just can't comprehend how a team like the Flyers struggle to score goals. Mind boggling.

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10-29-2013, 09:48 PM
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Another thing...everyone saying get rid of Simmonds....when he is on, he is EXACTLY what this team is missing on offense and what we need more of...him and Hartnell.

We are making it way to easy on other teams Goalies and its got to end, Simmonds and Hartnell need to be disruptive, get in front of the goalie and run guys after every play. Make them watch tape on the way they played two seasons ago.

I said it with Read and I'll say it for Simmonds, Dont trade him but do something to let him know he needs to get his **** in gear and get back to playing Wayne Simmonds Hockey.

If your benching people then Bench Simmonds or Hartnell. Gus deserves a spot on this team.

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