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10-27-2013, 03:05 PM
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they definitely would need some of the NHL Germans, would love to see Thomas Greiss in the KHL...

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10-27-2013, 03:19 PM
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they definitely would need some of the NHL Germans, would love to see Thomas Greiss in the KHL...
honestly I think he's about to get his big break but if not I could see him going back

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so, will there be a german team in the KHL next year? Last place so far, financial troubles - perfect candidate for a fresh start. The roster would have to be overhauled by 80% probably though.
Only time will tell. In my opinion it should be a team in Berlin. If not Berlin... then no team. )


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after how their qualification tournament went for the olympics, without the NHL players, I'd say no
Remember some years ago when they got... I think silver at the IIHF world championships?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_II...d_Championship

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Remember some years ago when they got... I think silver at the IIHF world championships?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_II...d_Championship
http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/230/IHM230352_74_3_0.pdf

here is their roster in their final win of the tournament, against the easiest draw and they came 4th.

without the NHL players, unless Endras is insanely good, they would probably not be a playoff contender


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10-27-2013, 08:03 PM
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Remember some years ago when they got... I think silver at the IIHF world championships?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_II...d_Championship
4th. They haven't gotten even close since then.

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10-28-2013, 04:44 AM
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Der langjährige Geschäftsführer der Düsseldorfer EG wird nach internen Informationen bei der nächsten Gesellschafterversammlung seine Tätigkeit beenden.
the current chief executive of Düsseldorfer EG Elmar Schmellenkamp will retire (next monday).

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Aus dem Umfeld der DEG ist auch zu hören, dass der Club vor dem Abschluss mit einem Unternehmen steht, das als Gesellschafter einsteigen möchte. Dies könnte zugleich positive Auswirkungen auf die Finanzen haben.
the club is very close to make a new deal with a company, which wants to join as shareholder.

http://www.wz-newsline.de/lokales/du...evor-1.1464001


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10-28-2013, 08:00 AM
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so the german national team couldnt compete in the khl?
I think - no problem (see Schutz)

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it looks like the DEG was really in trouble.

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In den vergangenen Tagen hatte die Gerüchteküche in der Landeshauptstadt gebrodelt. Die DEG stehe unmittelbar vor der Insolvenz, die Spieler hätten seit zwei Monaten kein Geld bekommen.
the reports says: there is a rumor, that the players didnt received money for the last 2 months and that the club was on the verge of insolvency.

http://www.rp-online.de/region-duess...geld-1.3775965

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10-30-2013, 06:16 AM
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Jokerit just declared that they are officially joining next year.

http://www.jokerit.com/uutiset/?nid=2663

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Jokerit will join the KHL in 2014-15

Jokerit hockey club and the international hockey league KHL have agreed on the Helsinki based club to join the league for the season 2014-15. Negotiations started during the summer and on Wednesday the parties reached the final agreement.

Jokerit, founded in 1967, is the first Finnish hockey club to join the KHL. The league consists of 28 teams from 8 different countries. Next season there will most likely be 30 teams playing the KHL and in the future the target of the league is to expand further in Europe.

-Jokerit is very proud to be representing Finland and Finnish hockey in the fastest-growing professional hockey league in the world. We want to compete for the championship and have a big task ahead of us as we start to prepare ourselves for the challenge, said Harry Harkimo, chairman of the board of Jokerit.

Arena Events, which acquired the ownership of Hartwall Arena during the summer, has exercised its option to buy a 49 percent sharehold of Jokerit. Chairman Harkimo will remain as the main owner of the hockey club.

Arena Events chairman of the board and Jokerit hockey club member of the board, Roman Rotenberg:

-We are extremely satisfied about this contract and pleased to conclude the long negotiations successfully. Jokerit already has a fantastic organization, infrastructure and youth development program which enable the club to successfully join the KHL. Jokerit has the possibility to become one of the most successful brands in the league both financially and on the ice.

Jokerit will continue to be a Finnish and Helsinki based club which plays its home games at Hartwall Arena. Ice hockey is moving to a more global direction and Jokerit wants to be a part of the sport’s progress.

-The KHL naturally provides a new kind of product for the whole Finnish hockey audience, but without the continuity built in the club’s 46 year history we have nothing, said Harkimo.

The club is proud of its traditions. Even in a new league, Jokerit wants to uphold the club’s Finnish and Helsinki based traditions. The internationally known logo and club name will remain the same.

-Our fans, some of who have followed the club for decades, have created a fantastic atmosphere at Hartwall Arena. They will be even more important to us in the future as we take on the best club teams in Europe, said Harkimo.

Jokerit Helsinki was founded in 1967 to continue the ice hockey program of Töölön Vesa. In its 46 year history, Jokerit has won the Finnish championship six times, European championship two times and the Continental Cup once. The club has played its home games at Hartwall Arena in Helsinki since 1997.

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10-30-2013, 06:23 AM
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Expected. Nonetheless - welcome.

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10-30-2013, 06:28 AM
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Great!!!

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Düsseldorf would be a logical step for KHL as it's a team that every year is just about going bankrupt, so they would do everything to survive.

I wonder though if their attendance will improve. They only have around 3500 fans at games. Even against the best teams of the league they don't get more than 5,000 fans (at best).

Düsseldorf vs Vityaz / Severstal / Novokuznetsk maybe 1,000 fans.

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10-30-2013, 07:29 AM
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PS: According to local Düsseldorf newspapers KHL is becoming a big option even for the 2014-15 season already as they don't have money to play in DEL anymore.

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Heared rumours about Gazprom as potential main sponsor for DEG (if joining KHL). They already invest huge money in this region (25 mio a year for Schalke 04).

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10-30-2013, 07:37 AM
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Sounds horrible. Please no DEG. What about Berlin? They were playing against Gazprom a lot lately, Surely, they are far better candidates.

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10-30-2013, 07:57 AM
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Vicente when you find an online articel, can you please give us the source.
Sounds very interesting.
DEG would be a great choice, there is so much population around Düsseldorf.

in this region around them, they are living maybe 14 mio. people

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10-30-2013, 08:07 AM
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Tervetuloa, Jokerit. Willkommen Deg?

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10-30-2013, 08:48 AM
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Jokerit just declared that they are officially joining next year.

http://www.jokerit.com/uutiset/?nid=2663
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Jokerit already has a fantastic organization, infrastructure and youth development program
Especially to the first and last parts.

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Especially to the first and last parts.
What's funny with the last part?

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10-30-2013, 09:13 AM
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What's funny with the last part?
I guess he thinks that Rotenberg should have said something different, right, Jussi?

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10-30-2013, 09:30 AM
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DEG would be pretty fun team to have considering that there's been unusually friendly relationship between bunch of them and Jokerit fans (visiting each other's games etc.)

BTW, Rotenberg said that the current plan is that next year there will be 57 games and teams from different conferences would meet only once.

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BTW, Rotenberg said that the current plan is that next year there will be 57 games and teams from different conferences would meet only once.
He can't possibly know that. His guess is just as good as yours right now.

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10-30-2013, 09:55 AM
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What's funny with the last part?
Because it's not like Jokerit juniors have been anywhere close to as good as Espoo Blues juniors. C- and B-juniors won gold in consecutive seasons but typically the coach of both of those teams was let go. And apart from Teuvo Teräväinen, there haven't been any talents from the system in recent years (nor are there any coming in the near future either).

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Because it's not like Jokerit juniors have been anywhere close to as good as Espoo Blues juniors. C- and B-juniors won gold in consecutive seasons but typically the coach of both of those teams was let go. And apart from Teuvo Teräväinen, there haven't been any talents from the system in recent years (nor are there any coming in the near future either).
Jarmo Kekäläinen made some improvements to whole current system so results aren't expected fast. Some juniors might pick other teams as it's difficult to get a spot from the mens Jokerit team.

Jokerit as a club have produced more elite/good NHLers than any other Finnish team.

And if Blues is doing so good, who knows, they might be Jokerit's farm team next year


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10-30-2013, 10:42 AM
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Jokerit just declared that they are officially joining next year.


-Jokerit can negotiate their own tv-contract
-Team will use air charters for travelling
-KHL probably will have divisions next year, so travel would be easier
-Team will get build around Finnish players, few foreigners too
-Budget is set to be around mid level in KHL
-Arena gets new lighting etc.

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Jarmo Kekäläinen made some improvements to whole current system so results aren't expected fast. Some juniors might pick other teams as it's difficult to get a spot from the mens Jokerit team.

Jokerit as a club have produced more elite/good NHLers than any other Finnish team.

And if Blues is doing so good, who knows, they might be Jokerit's farm team next year
We both know he's not there. If he was, Pelkonen probably could have stayed instead of going to Mestis. It's well known the juniors are a big questionmark now.

Kurri, Selänne, Lehtonen and that's it. Though it's not as we as a country have had that many elite NHL players to begin with.

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