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10-30-2013, 12:17 PM
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Worst or not this team is an absolute joke

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10-30-2013, 01:51 PM
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Without doing a stat break down on combined records over the past 5 years and just looking at standings here are my comparables:

Oilers Currently:
2013-14 - 27th (3-9-2)
2012-13 - 24th (19-22-7)
2011-12 - 29th (32-40-10)
2010-11 - 30th (25-45-12)
2009-10 - 30th (27-47-8)
Average - 28th of 30 teams

NFL - Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, St Louis, Detroit etc have a year or two floating around .500 or above it (7-9 or 10-6)

NBA - Sacramento
2012-13 - 24th (28-54 .341)
2011-12 - 25th (22-44 .333)
2010-11 - 25th (24-58 .293)
2009-10 - 27th (25-57 .305)
2008-09 - 30th (17-65 .207)
Average - 26th of 30 teams

Charlotte
2012-13 29th (21-61 .256)
2011-12 30th (7 -59 .106)
2010-11 21st (34-48 .415)
2009-10 16th (44-38 .537)
2008-09 18th (35 -47 .427)
Average - 23rd of 30

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Houston
2013 30th (51-111 .315)
2012 30th (55-107 .340)
2011 30th (56-106 .346)
2010 21st (76-86 .469)
2009 22nd (74-88 .457)
Average - 27th of 30

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10-30-2013, 02:01 PM
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Expanding on Oil Nation's post, I've got some bad bad news if you're an Astros fan. They're in for a depressing few years and I'm not sure they can prepared for the death of hope.

Oilers Currently:
2013-14 - 27th (3-9-2)
2012-13 - 24th (19-22-7)
2011-12 - 29th (32-40-10)
2010-11 - 30th (25-45-12)
2009-10 - 30th (27-47-8)
2008-09 - 20th (38-35-9)
2007-08 - T 21st (41-35-6)

Houston
2013 30th (51-111 .315)
2012 30th (55-107 .340)
2011 30th (56-106 .346)
2010 21st (76-86 .469)
2009 22nd (74-88 .457)

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10-30-2013, 05:53 PM
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Before this season the Pittsburgh Pirates had 20 consecutive losing seasons.

Our plight is very minor compared to fans of that team.

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10-30-2013, 05:57 PM
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Before this season the Pittsburgh Pirates had 20 consecutive losing seasons.

Our plight is very minor compared to fans of that team.
Ya. Of course there is the Cubs as well. I can't even imagine being a Cubs fan. Their one big year ended with the Bartman debacle, then back to losing.

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10-30-2013, 07:32 PM
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At least baseball teams have more of an excuse because it's harder to make the post-season in baseball and they don't have a hard cap like we do.

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10-30-2013, 08:08 PM
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What about the Eskimos?

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10-30-2013, 08:16 PM
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Before this season the Pittsburgh Pirates had 20 consecutive losing seasons.

Our plight is very minor compared to fans of that team.
Is there a difference between being 1 game under .500 versus finishing last repeatedly?

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10-30-2013, 08:18 PM
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Is there a difference between being 1 game under .500 versus finishing last repeatedly?
Not really, neither has the team making the playoffs.

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10-30-2013, 08:19 PM
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What about the Eskimos?
No one is America knows about the CFL so it doesn't really count as a N.A. professional team.

To answer the OP, yes, the Oilers have been an absolute embarrassment. They're supposed to be heading where Chicago is but that we all know how that is going.

A team that boasts three 1st overall players should NOT be bad.

The last three 1st overall picks before Hall were: Tavares, Stamkos and Kane. Now imagine those 3 guys on the same team.

The Oilers' losing culture has ruined Hall, RNH and Yakupov and its because of Tambellini's lack of effort to go after a stud defencemen. When Ryan Suter was a free agent, Tambellini openly stated that he did not even go after him. We probably wouldn't have got him anyways but it would have been nice to know that an effort was made.

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10-30-2013, 08:20 PM
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No one is America knows about the CFL so it doesn't really count as a N.A. professional team.

To answer the OP, yes, the Oilers have been an absolute embarrassment. They're supposed to be heading where Chicago is but that we all know how that is going.

A team that boasts three 1st overall players should NOT be bad.

The last three 1st overall picks before Hall were: Tavares, Stamkos and Kane. Now imagine those 3 guys on the same team.

The Oilers' losing culture has ruined Hall, RNH and Yakupov and its because of Tambellini's lack of effort to go after a stud defencemen. When Ryan Suter was a free agent, Tambellini openly stated that he did not even go after him. We probably wouldn't have got him anyways but it would have been nice to know that an effort was made.
I think Ryan Suter had his mind made up from the get go.

Plus we've seen enough failures in whale hunting over the past 6 years or so.

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10-30-2013, 08:36 PM
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Not really, neither has the team making the playoffs.
So making the playoffs is the cut-off line for success? Even if they get swept in the first round?

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10-30-2013, 08:37 PM
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So making the playoffs is the cut-off line for success? Even if they get swept in the first round?
I think most of us would take a first round sweep right now.

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No one is America knows about the CFL so it doesn't really count as a N.A. professional team.

To answer the OP, yes, the Oilers have been an absolute embarrassment. They're supposed to be heading where Chicago is but that we all know how that is going.

A team that boasts three 1st overall players should NOT be bad.

The last three 1st overall picks before Hall were: Tavares, Stamkos and Kane. Now imagine those 3 guys on the same team.

The Oilers' losing culture has ruined Hall, RNH and Yakupov and its because of Tambellini's lack of effort to go after a stud defencemen. When Ryan Suter was a free agent, Tambellini openly stated that he did not even go after him. We probably wouldn't have got him anyways but it would have been nice to know that an effort was made.
Suter had said before free agency even started that he was only considering US locations. We weren't getting him regardless.

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I think most of us would take a first round sweep right now.
I would take some level of competitive play, even if it meant not making the playoffs.

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10-30-2013, 08:41 PM
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I would take some level of competitive play, even if it meant not making the playoffs.
Well of course.

But I want to see this team in the playoffs. It's been 7 years since 2006.

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10-31-2013, 09:57 AM
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Astros and Jags are close but they did make hte playoffs just 5 years ago.

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Even if they technically aren't because of a comparison of their record, I think they are because Lowe claims to have lost on purpose which IMO is worse than losing while trying. It's even worse if they didn't lose on purpose and then claimed they did (which I believe the case to be).

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Expanding on Oil Nation's post, I've got some bad bad news if you're an Astros fan. They're in for a depressing few years and I'm not sure they can prepared for the death of hope.

Oilers Currently:
2013-14 - 27th (3-9-2)
2012-13 - 24th (19-22-7)
2011-12 - 29th (32-40-10)
2010-11 - 30th (25-45-12)
2009-10 - 30th (27-47-8)
2008-09 - 20th (38-35-9)
2007-08 - T 21st (41-35-6)

Houston
2013 30th (51-111 .315)
2012 30th (55-107 .340)
2011 30th (56-106 .346)
2010 21st (76-86 .469)
2009 22nd (74-88 .457)
To make things worse. They passed on Byron Buxton in the draft as well to take Correa.

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10-31-2013, 10:25 AM
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The have become the joke of the nhl and Lowe sits in front of reporters and claims to know about winning. What a gong show!

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Lowe told us he knows about winning just because he hadn't done it in so long he wanted to hear what it sounded like to say something like that.

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10-31-2013, 01:44 PM
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They would be in the top 10 for sure (hard to include baseball since no salary cap).

But in the NHL (disregarding this year) over the past 5 years.
-Colorado (though they made the playoffs in 09/10 and are good this year)
-We've been bad, best finish was 21st
-the jets/thrashers have been bad, best finish was 18th last year (and they were playing in the lowly SE division)
-Columbus has a playoff appearance and 17th last year, Florida won their division 2 years ago, the Leafs and Islanders made the playoffs last year, Buffalo's only been bad a few years

NBA
-Sacramento Kings (worst NBA team over the last 5 years), I got lazy and only looked at conference rank and they were bottom 3 in their conference every year for the past 5 years
-Washington (starting to turn it around) but their best finish was 12th/15 in their conference and that was last year
-Minnesota, their best conference finish was #11 and that was 5 years ago

NFL
-Buffalo best season in the last 5 years was 5 years ago and 7-9, everything since has been worse (3 6-10 and a 4-12)
-Cleveland, their best record was a 5-11 in the last 5 years
-Jacksonville, had an 8-8 and 7-9 in their, but they've been bad otherwise especially of late
-Detroit 2011 they were 10-6 which almost had me exclude them but the other 4 years they're 4-12, 6-10, 2-14, 0-16

MLB (excluded cause of no salary cap, harder to compete)

-So in the last 5 years... I'd have to say it'd be close between the Edmonton Oilers, Sacramento Kings, Washington Wizards, and Cleveland Browns.

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10-31-2013, 06:15 PM
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Not even close to being the worst.

People act like last season was a total disaster. They fell off the last couple games but there was a point late last season where they were very close to making the playoffs. They just couldn't keep things going.

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10-31-2013, 06:29 PM
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Having decent non-playoff records in the NFL doesn't mean all that much. If you finish last in your division, you play the worst teams in other divisions more. That's kinda why Jacksonville had those good seasons even though nobody perceived them as a threat at all.

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Having decent non-playoff records in the NFL doesn't mean all that much. If you finish last in your division, you play the worst teams in other divisions more. That's kinda why Jacksonville had those good seasons even though nobody perceived them as a threat at all.
No, Jacksonville had those decent seasons because they were a decent team until two years ago. They may be historically bad this season and last year, but they haven't been bad for nearly as long as Cleveland, Oakland, and Buffalo. They were pretty much the Oilers from the late 90's until 2010. Consistently mediocre, never terrible, one decent playoff run.

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