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10-31-2013, 02:14 PM
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The Oilers have plenty of top 4 defencemen,why would they need more?

I thought that it would be more obvious that the Oilers are badly in need of a number 1 defenseman.
Most players we'd want to eye up most likely have nmc/ntc, or, their teams simply have no interest in trading them, so that leaves us with looking for someone who is going to be a gamble.

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10-31-2013, 02:15 PM
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The Oilers have plenty of top 4 defencemen,why would they need more?
They have ton of second and third pairing guys. Not many guys who can step up into the top pair. Petry maybe.

Smid and Belov are your second pairing guys. Ference and Young Schultz are third pairing guys. Old Schultz is done. So yeah, one more top four guy.

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I thought that it would be more obvious that the Oilers are badly in need of a number 1 defenseman
Semantics. A Weber or Subban would be great, but they are nearly impossible to come by.

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Downie got traded for Talbot wtf?

Couldnt we of tried for Downie?
Isn't Downie what we need
Maybe Phi will trade someone but I am thinking they want a dman amid for simmonds or vorcek

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10-31-2013, 02:19 PM
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They have ton of second and third pairing guys. Not many guys who can step up into the top pair. Petry maybe.

Smid and Belov are your second pairing guys. Ference and Young Schultz are third pairing guys. Old Schultz is done. So yeah, one more top four guy.



Semantics. A Weber or Subban would be great, but they are nearly impossible to come by.

It may be a godsend if the Oilers are able to land Ekblad this June.

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10-31-2013, 02:32 PM
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Who is Ekblad comparable too in the NHL? I don't see enough of him to know?

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10-31-2013, 02:35 PM
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They have ton of second and third pairing guys. Not many guys who can step up into the top pair. Petry maybe.

Smid and Belov are your second pairing guys. Ference and Young Schultz are third pairing guys. Old Schultz is done. So yeah, one more top four guy.



Semantics. A Weber or Subban would be great, but they are nearly impossible to come by.
So Ference is a number 3 on a Stanley cup winning team but a bottom pairing guy in Edmonton? I don't think so. Schultz defensively
needs a lot of work but offensively he is easily a top 4 defenceman and the closest thing we have to top pairing offense.

Everyone who is complaining that we didn't go after Downie need to ask themselves if you would move Gordon for Downie? Third line center > Third line winger.

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10-31-2013, 02:36 PM
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It may be a godsend if the Oilers are able to land Ekblad this June.
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Who is Ekblad comparable too in the NHL? I don't see enough of him to know?
Yes. Now seeing how impossible it is to trade for a top defenceman and seeing as our team is terrible I will love to get Ekblad even if we are drafting #1.

His comparable is Chris Pronger.

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10-31-2013, 02:36 PM
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Annnndddd the Ekblad discussion has begun on hf oil.


Sad thing is at our current pace it's a possibility.

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Yes. Now seeing how impossible it is to trade for a top defenceman and seeing as our team is terrible I will love to get Ekblad even if we are drafting #1.

His comparable is Chris Pronger.
Give it 3 years we could have a Nurse/Ekblad top D line... Holy ****

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10-31-2013, 02:39 PM
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So bad for Ekblad.

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10-31-2013, 02:40 PM
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Give it 3 years we could have a Nurse/Ekblad top D line... Holy ****
It could very well happen as Buffalo will probably take Reinhart and Philly will pass us in the standings.

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It may be a godsend if the Oilers are able to land Ekblad this June.
It would be nice to NOT finish last this year

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10-31-2013, 02:41 PM
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Give it 3 years we could have a Nurse/Ekblad top D line... Holy ****
Nurse is good but I don't see him at the same level as Ekblad. Ekblad is a mean SOB and can log huge minutes. Maybe it's because he is a man against boys in the OHL size wise, but regardless.

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It would be nice to NOT finish last this year
we probably won't,we'll finish 2nd last.

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Downie could make Hartnell expendable in Philly. he had a rough year last year and this year hasn't started off well so his value shouldn't be too high. I think he would do well here

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It could very well happen as Buffalo will probably take Reinhart and Philly will pass us in the standings.
Also Nylander is just as much in the race for #1 as Reinhart. Dreiseitl is almost on par too. Ekblad could possibly fall to 4th, but I doubt it.

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10-31-2013, 02:43 PM
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So Ference is a number 3 on a Stanley cup winning team but a bottom pairing guy in Edmonton? I don't think so..
I'm basing this on his play this year and not his reputation playing on a team behind a future Hall of Famer.

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Schultz defensively needs a lot of work but offensively he is easily a top 4 defenceman and the closest thing we have to top pairing offense.
But he's a garbage fire in his own end who can't be trusted to handle top opposition. Garbage ES time and loads of PP time for him until he grows a clue.

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10-31-2013, 02:44 PM
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Bah, who cares about Downie - Talbot was rumored to be available all off season, he would have been perfect for the 3rd line right wing spot.

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i would love to get gudbrannson from florida, he's been nasty to play against this year

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Nurse is good but I don't see him at the same level as Ekblad. Ekblad is a mean SOB and can log huge minutes. Maybe it's because he is a man against boys in the OHL size wise, but regardless.
Darnell Nurse Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds 13 3 11 14 22
Aaron Ekblad Barrie Colts 15 6 7 13 18

Yes Nurse is a year older but Ekblad isn't lights out better.

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Darnell Nurse Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds 13 3 11 14 22
Aaron Ekblad Barrie Colts 15 6 7 13 18

Yes Nurse is a year older but Ekblad isn't lights out better.
also anyone that doesnt think nurse has a nasty side is kidding themselves

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we probably won't,we'll finish 2nd last.
lol allow me to rephrase, it would be nice to not finish last in our division......*reaches for a drink*

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Darnell Nurse Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds 13 3 11 14 22
Aaron Ekblad Barrie Colts 15 6 7 13 18

Yes Nurse is a year older but Ekblad isn't lights out better.
Points aren't exactly what I was talking about. Ekblad is extremely strong defensively already. He is a more complete package than Nurse at this point in time. Bigger, faster (maybe), meaner, better shot etc. Nurse has the talent but I don't know if he is smart enough to play defense properly. Ekblad is the type of player that can log 30 minutes in a game like Chara, Keith or Weber.

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As I and other posters reported in the summer, MacT was all in on Stafford.

Stauffer has mentioned Stafford on todays show.

I have no idea what it would take to get a deal done but he certainly gives us size in the top 9....also despite being labelled "soft" he drives to the net hard.

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10-31-2013, 02:53 PM
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I'm basing this on his play this year and not his reputation playing on a team behind a future Hall of Famer.



But he's a garbage fire in his own end who can't be trusted to handle top opposition. Garbage ES time and loads of PP time for him until he grows a clue.
I don't see how playing behind Chara makes Ference any worse. It's not like he was his defence partner. I also think Schultz can handle second pairing minutes but is the only defenceman we have that's capable of producing offense. Thus, the coach wants him out as much as possible to feed his top 6 forwards. I think Ference-Schultz is good enough for a second pair on any NHL team. The problem is that Smid-Petry is also a second pairing.

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