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11-01-2013, 12:08 PM
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Based on what?
Yak's numerous statements that he wants to play in the NHL whenever the subject has come up (and it has come up as recently as when he was PB'd).

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11-01-2013, 12:28 PM
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Ya, Im sure Larionov and Pulver won't bring up KHL in Yaks next contract negotiation. Lets see what happens if Mact tries to give him anything less than Nuge or Halls contract.
Regardless, whether you think KHL is a legitimate threat or not, I still believe if you're going to trade one of the Fab 5. Yakupov is probably the one as long as the return is Size in your top 6 - ie Simmonds - B.Schenn.
So you're just basing this off of.....what if scenarios?

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11-01-2013, 12:42 PM
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Yak's numerous statements that he wants to play in the NHL whenever the subject has come up (and it has come up as recently as when he was PB'd).
Alexander Burmistrov said the exact same things for years after he was drafted. I'm hearing he's playing pretty good for Ak Bars right now

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11-01-2013, 12:43 PM
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Alexander Burmistrov said the exact same things for years after he was drafted. I'm hearing he's playing pretty good for Ak Bars right now
Though there's just a slight difference in the quality of player there

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11-01-2013, 12:44 PM
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Alexander Burmistrov said the exact same things for years after he was drafted. I'm hearing he's playing pretty good for Ak Bars right now
Oh well then I guess that does make it a good idea to trade a potential 35 goal scorer for scraps because you think he might maybe possibly someday jump ship to the KHL.

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11-01-2013, 12:47 PM
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Alexander Burmistrov said the exact same things for years after he was drafted. I'm hearing he's playing pretty good for Ak Bars right now
Exactly.

The KHL is always an option.

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11-01-2013, 12:49 PM
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Exactly.

The KHL is always an option.
It's an option for any player though, no?

Outside of Kovalchuk, how many Russian players gave up successful NHL careers for the KHL? In other words: are ther emany players who left for the K who didn't suck when they were in the NHL?

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11-01-2013, 12:57 PM
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Why was the KHL a threat to Burmistrov and Kovalchuk but not Yak?

Who gives a flyin f^ck what Yak has said. The other poster was right.
Burmistrov and his agent were saying NO KHL right to the bitter end that
he wasn't going to the KHL. Then BOOM. Gone.
All it took for Kovy was a taste of the KHL and then a guy in his NHL prime
who signed a huge mega contract to stay in NJ was gone.

But not Yak. No threat here. Get real people.
So you're saying there is a threat of the KHL or there isn't one or what?

Eitherway, I guess we can only hope he goes so then the 'I told you so's can be said.

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11-01-2013, 12:58 PM
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It's an option for any player though, no?

Outside of Kovalchuk, how many Russian players gave up successful NHL careers for the KHL? In other words: are ther emany players who left for the K who didn't suck when they were in the NHL?
and how many of them played multiple yrs in the CHL ?
Yak to KHL is rubbish IMO.. He has no desire to play there and isnt your typical Russian.
He is is like from the Quebec of Russia... Republic of Tatarstan declared independance from Russia 10 yrs ago but are still sort of attached to Russia.

The guy bolted out the first chance he got... and got his parents out the first chance he got.

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11-01-2013, 01:03 PM
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It's an option for any player though, no?

Outside of Kovalchuk, how many Russian players gave up successful NHL careers for the KHL? In other words: are ther emany players who left for the K who didn't suck when they were in the NHL?
So we just saw one of the best pure goal scorers in the NHL in his prime bolt for the KHL and you are going to tell me it's not a remote possibility it could happen to another player? What about Jagr? He bolted to play in the KHL and he's not even Russian.

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11-01-2013, 01:13 PM
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So we just saw one of the best pure goal scorers in the NHL in his prime bolt for the KHL and you are going to tell me it's not a remote possibility it could happen to another player?
I didn't say that. I'm saying there's not much you can do if he does decide someday to go home and trading him before that is even on the radar for that reason is a dumb move.

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What about Jagr? He bolted to play in the KHL and he's not even Russian
Not Russian, just the biggest mercenary in the game.

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11-01-2013, 01:17 PM
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If I was from Russia and I had a choice of NHL North America or NHL Russia I would choose Russia - it only makes sense.

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11-01-2013, 01:19 PM
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All I am saying is that it's a possibility. I think we can both agree on that.
I couldn't care less what YAK has said in the past. Circumstances change and ***** happens. People who dismiss it out of hand are naïve imo.
He could also decide to take up acting instead of hockey. Or he could break his leg and end his career. These are also possibilities. Just because it's a possibility doesn't mean it's something you need to concern yourself with.

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11-01-2013, 01:21 PM
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If I was from Russia and I had a choice of NHL North America or NHL Russia I would choose Russia - it only makes sense.
Or maybe you'd want to play somewhere where you don't get shaken down by mobsters or put on rickety old planes with drunk pilots.

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11-01-2013, 01:33 PM
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I guess when you get beaten down enough hyperbole is your only option.

Have a good day Moose.
So things that have happened is "hyperbole" now?

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11-01-2013, 01:38 PM
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He could also decide to take up acting instead of hockey. Or he could break his leg and end his career. These are also possibilities. Just because it's a possibility doesn't mean it's something you need to concern yourself with.
Oh my god. I just realized something. Sam Gagner is from Eastern Canada and so is Alexandre Daigle! Gagner is totally going to quit playing hockey and go to Hollywood! We need to trade him NOW!

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11-01-2013, 01:41 PM
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So we just saw one of the best pure goal scorers in the NHL in his prime bolt for the KHL and you are going to tell me it's not a remote possibility it could happen to another player? What about Jagr? He bolted to play in the KHL and he's not even Russian.
By bringing up jagr you basically just stated that Yaks chance of bolting to the KHL is the same as any player in the league. Might as well just trade everyone on the team for draft picks. Draft picks can't bolt to the KHL

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11-01-2013, 01:47 PM
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Your rubbish is the same as my rubbish... Go back and read clippins of guys that said they have no desire for KHL and they NEVER went.

Not saying it can never happen but chances of Yak bolting are less than Barkov or Nichushkin bolting back to Euorope.
Regardless of how likely it is, what's the point in acting on something while it remains a hypothetical?

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It's an option for any player though, no?

Outside of Kovalchuk, how many Russian players gave up successful NHL careers for the KHL? In other words: are ther emany players who left for the K who didn't suck when they were in the NHL?
Big one:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=19335

Huge one:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=77322

Though I do think that Radulov was mishandled in a lot of ways by Nashville. He could be the offensive star they've been missing since 1998 if they gave him the same treatment they did to their twin towers on D.

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11-01-2013, 01:50 PM
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Regardless of how likely it is, what's the point in acting on something while it remains a hypothetical?
Exactly. We shouldn't trade players when they come down with the flu even though people have died from it before. The "risk" is miniscule, and therefore pretty much irrelevant

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11-01-2013, 01:52 PM
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Big one:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=19335

Huge one:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=77322

Though I do think that Radulov was mishandled in a lot of ways by Nashville. He could be the offensive star they've been missing since 1998 if they gave him the same treatment they did to their twin towers on D.
If they opened their wallets, instead of screwing him around with lowball offers, he'd still be there.

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#Oilers Justin Schultz left practice early w/ 'rib discomfort'. Coach Eakins will talk w/ doctors and they'll make a decision on a callup

I'm gonna say... Larsen or Fedun... Larsen.

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If they opened their wallets, instead of screwing him around with lowball offers, he'd still be there.
Yep. Also, making him and Kostitsyn into public enemies rather than deflecting attention from what was literally them having a couple drinks in the hotel bar during that last playoff run would have gone a long way to keeping him there I'm sure.

Rinne, Suter, Weber, Radulov, and someone better than Fisher or Legwand at C is a 5 man core you could go to war with. For all the Nashville FO has done right, they pinched pennies with the wrong people and may have cost themselves a mini-dynasty.

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#Oilers Justin Schultz left practice early w/ 'rib discomfort'. Coach Eakins will talk w/ doctors and they'll make a decision on a callup

I'm gonna say... Larsen or Fedun... Larsen.
I want Fedun to get a cup of coffee.

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Cap is going to be at least in $76- to $80-million range by last year of the Sedin deals, or equivalent to $5.75-mil each in today's dollars


So Hall/Eberle/RNH's contracts will be equivalent to like 4.5mil a year. If the kids keep trending up these deals could be steals come the later years of their contracts.

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