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11-01-2013, 03:27 PM
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Cap is going to be at least in $76- to $80-million range by last year of the Sedin deals, or equivalent to $5.75-mil each in today's dollars


So Hall/Eberle/RNH's contracts will be equivalent to like 4.5mil a year. If the kids keep trending up these deals could be steals come the later years of their contracts.
It won't matter if we keep losing.

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11-01-2013, 03:32 PM
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I want Fedun to get a cup of coffee.
Me too, he very much deserves it at this point, but with our luck here comes Corey Potter, ugh.

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11-01-2013, 03:33 PM
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Yep. Also, making him and Kostitsyn into public enemies rather than deflecting attention from what was literally them having a couple drinks in the hotel bar during that last playoff run would have gone a long way to keeping him there I'm sure.

Rinne, Suter, Weber, Radulov, and someone better than Fisher or Legwand at C is a 5 man core you could go to war with. For all the Nashville FO has done right, they pinched pennies with the wrong people and may have cost themselves a mini-dynasty.
Ya, it really makes you wonder what could have been. Maybe they keep Suter, and Radulov, and Suter talks Parise into joining as well

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11-01-2013, 03:37 PM
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It won't matter if we keep losing.
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11-01-2013, 04:39 PM
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Oh my god. I just realized something. Sam Gagner is from Eastern Canada and so is Alexandre Daigle! Gagner is totally going to quit playing hockey and go to Hollywood! We need to trade him NOW!
Relax Dude! It's a forum, why cut someone down for stating their opinion, Disagree and move on. We heard your 2 cents, no need to degrade.

Its a common discussion amongst Oiler fans. If you were to trade any of the young guns who would it be? For me, if everything else is equal, then I trade Yakupov based on the slight chance he either bolts to the KHL or uses the threat to improve his contract. Now if I thought that Yakupov was way better than Eberle, Hall and RNH , I would be willing to take the chance and trade one of the other young guns. I don't think he's way better, I think he's about equal in potential to Ebs, therefore I would trade him (only for the right package in return).

Some people could choose Hall due to his injury history. Some may choose Eberle because he wasn't a #1 pick. I don't think there's any right or wrong answers (unless you own a crystal ball) - just opinions Dude.

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11-01-2013, 04:51 PM
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So we just saw one of the best pure goal scorers in the NHL in his prime bolt for the KHL and you are going to tell me it's not a remote possibility it could happen to another player? What about Jagr? He bolted to play in the KHL and he's not even Russian.
so then your arguement can apply to every single player.....nugent-hopkins isnt russian but he could bolt to the KHL

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11-01-2013, 05:00 PM
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and how many of them played multiple yrs in the CHL ?
Yak to KHL is rubbish IMO.. He has no desire to play there and isnt your typical Russian.
He is is like from the Quebec of Russia... Republic of Tatarstan declared independance from Russia 10 yrs ago but are still sort of attached to Russia.

The guy bolted out the first chance he got... and got his parents out the first chance he got.
...eh?

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11-01-2013, 05:10 PM
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Yak's numerous statements that he wants to play in the NHL whenever the subject has come up (and it has come up as recently as when he was PB'd).
What that tells me is Yak's agent is telling him to say all the right things, and Yak is doing a wonderful job of it. I'm not saying he's being disingenuous, but let's not be so naive as to think he'd even hint at leaving Edmonton while still under contract.

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11-01-2013, 06:28 PM
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Promise or no promise, I think Gagner needs to be moved.
Hemsky also needs to be moved to free up some RW Yakupov space.
I'd be looking for a responsible 2nd line center or a 3rd line center to allow Gordon to play as the second line C and a gritty RW.

Something like:
Gagner + 4th round for Clutterbuk + 2nd round
Hemsky for Gaustad

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Perron - Gordon - Yakupov
need - Gaustad - Clutterbuk
Gaztic - need - Ju/Pitlik

I'm not so sure what to do on D, but bringing in Ron Hainsley and Douglas Murray instead of Belov and Grebs I believe would have made our team more difficult to play against.
With goaltending, we need to bring in back ups with the potential to be a #1. Not sure why we paid $1 for LaBabera when Greiss went for cheaper.
We either need to significantly upgrade our D or get a top 10 goalie, think you need one or the other.

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11-01-2013, 08:14 PM
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promise or no promise, i think gagner needs to be moved.
Hemsky also needs to be moved to free up some rw yakupov space.
I'd be looking for a responsible 2nd line center or a 3rd line center to allow gordon to play as the second line c and a gritty rw.

Something like:
Gagner + 4th round for clutterbuk + 2nd round
hemsky for gaustad

hall - rnh - eberle
perron - gordon - yakupov
need - gaustad - clutterbuk
gaztic - need - ju/pitlik

i'm not so sure what to do on d, but bringing in ron hainsley and douglas murray instead of belov and grebs i believe would have made our team more difficult to play against.
With goaltending, we need to bring in back ups with the potential to be a #1. Not sure why we paid $1 for lababera when greiss went for cheaper.
We either need to significantly upgrade our d or get a top 10 goalie, think you need one or the other.
terrible.

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11-01-2013, 08:26 PM
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Promise or no promise, I think Gagner needs to be moved.
Hemsky also needs to be moved to free up some RW Yakupov space.
I'd be looking for a responsible 2nd line center or a 3rd line center to allow Gordon to play as the second line C and a gritty RW.

Something like:
Gagner + 4th round for Clutterbuk + 2nd round
Hemsky for Gaustad

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Perron - Gordon - Yakupov
need - Gaustad - Clutterbuk
Gaztic - need - Ju/Pitlik

I'm not so sure what to do on D, but bringing in Ron Hainsley and Douglas Murray instead of Belov and Grebs I believe would have made our team more difficult to play against.
With goaltending, we need to bring in back ups with the potential to be a #1. Not sure why we paid $1 for LaBabera when Greiss went for cheaper.
We either need to significantly upgrade our D or get a top 10 goalie, think you need one or the other.
I would love to have Clutter on this team but NYI would have to add and it wouldn't just be a low level prospect either.

Gaustad makes 3.25 mil and is not even a 3rd line player, he would be the perfect 4C but makes way to much money. I am sure if we wanted Gaustad NAS would give him up for a 4th round pick as he is over paid and they could use the money but I don't want him on EDM with that cap hit.

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11-01-2013, 08:49 PM
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Boyd Gordon is not a #2C

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11-01-2013, 08:55 PM
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Philly down 6-0 after 2.

Lets make a deal.

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11-01-2013, 09:01 PM
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Philly down 6-0 after 2.

Lets make a deal.
Do they have a goalie? No?

Next.

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11-01-2013, 09:06 PM
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Do they have a goalie? No?

Next.
Wouldn't mind Coburn or Couturier though.

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Wouldn't mind Coburn or Couturier though.
Coburn maybe but I'm not sure what Couturier brings us.

Our biggest issue is still between the pipes.

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11-01-2013, 09:09 PM
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Relax Dude! It's a forum, why cut someone down for stating their opinion, Disagree and move on. We heard your 2 cents, no need to degrade.

Its a common discussion amongst Oiler fans. If you were to trade any of the young guns who would it be? For me, if everything else is equal, then I trade Yakupov based on the slight chance he either bolts to the KHL or uses the threat to improve his contract. Now if I thought that Yakupov was way better than Eberle, Hall and RNH , I would be willing to take the chance and trade one of the other young guns. I don't think he's way better, I think he's about equal in potential to Ebs, therefore I would trade him (only for the right package in return).

Some people could choose Hall due to his injury history. Some may choose Eberle because he wasn't a #1 pick. I don't think there's any right or wrong answers (unless you own a crystal ball) - just opinions Dude.
Because what I posted is every last bit as valid of a concern as the idea that Yakupov is leaving for the KHL. Kovalchuk =/= All Russians

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11-01-2013, 09:13 PM
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Coburn maybe but I'm not sure what Couturier brings us.

Our biggest issue is still between the pipes.
A different type of player for our top 6.

Goaltending is the biggest issue, however there are many fish to fry on this team.

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11-01-2013, 09:17 PM
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Philly down 6-0 after 2.

Lets make a deal.


Ahhhh,the great Steve Mason is at work for Philly.



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Wouldn't mind Coburn or Couturier though.
Just reading the Flyers thread and Philly fans are not loving Coburn at all. I really don't think he'd to do much for us to be honest.

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11-01-2013, 09:25 PM
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A different type of player for our top 6.

Goaltending is the biggest issue, however there are many fish to fry on this team.
I agree, but fix the big problems first...

A bad team trading with a bad team probably won't solve much on either side.

In fact the Flyers problems are very similar to ours (weak goaltending/suspect defense)

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I agree, but fix the big problems first...

A bad team trading with a bad team probably won't solve much on either side.


In fact the Flyers problems are very similar to ours (weak goaltending/suspect defense)
That doesn't even make sense. Are you suggesting all players on bad teams offer the same attributes and equally bad?

We might have to wait as long as until next offseason to address goaltending. In the meantime, it doesn't hurt to tweak if the opportunities arise.

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11-01-2013, 09:35 PM
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Nail Yakupov has more goals than Claude Giroux, Scott Hartnell, and Sean Couturier combined ...

... makes our problems seem small.

I'd much rather have Brayden Schenn than Couturier. Couturier brings zero offense and can't skate. His poor skating is why he fell in the draft.

If we're moving Yakupov, we should be asking for both Schenns and Simmonds. Sounds like Luke Schenn is having a terrible year, but he would be a good rehabilitation project, and isn't worth much right now.

They can have Grebeshkov and Abney to round out the trade.

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Come on.. the Flyers and Oilers are perfect trading partners and both teams are underachieving. Something's got to happen there..

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Come on.. the Flyers and Oilers are perfect trading partners and both teams are underachieving. Something's got to happen there..
I'm really not sure what the Flyers have that would significantly help us.

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