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11-02-2013, 11:06 PM
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thought so as well.

He said "Shinny" hockey

Not ****** hockey
I think I understand it now..the canes played ******..... the rangers played shinny

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11-02-2013, 11:09 PM
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3rd.

Stepan and Richards have more.
I thought Stepan and Richards would both be considered tied for 1st. Then the other 4 are tied for second.

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11-02-2013, 11:11 PM
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I've always thought Stepan and Richards would both be considered tied for 1st. Then the other 4 are tied for second.
So if 10 players were tied for the most points, would the 11th have 2nd most?

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11-02-2013, 11:12 PM
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So if 10 players were tied for the most points, would the 11th have 2nd most?
lol That is correct.

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11-02-2013, 11:13 PM
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11-02-2013, 11:16 PM
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I thought Stepan and Richards would both be considered tied for 1st. Then the other 4 are tied for second.
It goes
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11-02-2013, 11:18 PM
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It goes
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Absurd.

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11-02-2013, 11:22 PM
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Absurd.
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Good game overall except the first period. Looked sloppy but they cleaned it up an came out with a needed win.

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11-02-2013, 11:24 PM
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lol you guise are tied for 2nd in my book.

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11-02-2013, 11:24 PM
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Absurd.
What really looks absurd is seeing the PP at almost 21 percent.

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11-02-2013, 11:30 PM
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What really looks absurd is seeing the PP at almost 21 percent.
What pisses me off is how last year we were saying that if only Richards, Kreider, and the PP were better we'd be something else. Now we're 6-7 with all those things being better. Of course we also had Nash last year.

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11-02-2013, 11:31 PM
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what an awesome game.

hagelin adds so much to this team.

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11-02-2013, 11:57 PM
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Kreider continues to play very well. He is playing a different type of game than he ever did under Torts IMO. He is utilizing his speed in bursts, creating space with his size and keeping it simple. Great to see, if he keeps it up we will have a horse of a top 6 winger for a very, very long time.

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11-03-2013, 12:02 AM
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Kreider continues to play very well. He is playing a different type of game than he ever did under Torts IMO. He is utilizing his speed in bursts, creating space with his size and keeping it simple. Great to see, if he keeps it up we will have a horse of a top 6 winger for a very, very long time.

He wasnt having a very good first period in fact that entire line was surprisingly slow in the first. AV actually benched them and then when they got another chance they destroyed Carolina. That line is tough to stop when they turn it on

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He wasnt having a very good first period in fact that entire line was surprisingly slow in the first. AV actually benched them and then when they got another chance they destroyed Carolina. That line is tough to stop when they turn it on
The whole team started slow. Overall, he had a very good game.

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11-03-2013, 12:09 AM
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The whole team started slow. Overall, he had a very good game.
I agree. I get accused of never criticizing kreider by some so i guess i was trying to make them happy

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11-03-2013, 12:15 AM
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NEW YORK – It was a moment Rangers fans have seen before.


The Rangers (6-7-0) started awfully slowly and lethargically in their match against scuffling Carolina (4-7-3) Saturday night at MSG. In fact, through the first six minutes the Hurricanes had six of the game’s first eight shots, and were threatening to snap their four-game losing streak against a team looking for its fourth win in five games.

It was so ugly, it was perhaps reasonable to expect Rangers coach Alain Vigneault to call his timeout, try to settle the troops, and hope a stern talking-to would energize his team. After all, that’s what former coach John Tortorella would have done.
Click through to see AV's answer when I asked him what his philosophy is in terms of calling a timeout in that situation.

http://insidehockey.com/no-timeout-n...ers-roll-canes










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11-03-2013, 01:08 AM
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What pisses me off is how last year we were saying that if only Richards, Kreider, and the PP were better we'd be something else. Now we're 6-7 with all those things being better. Of course we also had Nash last year.
Well, we're not really 6-7 with all those things being better as Kreider's only played (and been very good) in the last 6 games. In those 6 games, the team is 4-2, GF-GA is 14-9, PP is 23.8%. And while 6 games is a brutally small sample size, it's still worth mentioning. Minor side note that we scored no PPGs in those two losses.

It's still super early to determine anything, but I think the team is settling in a bit to the coaches and playing fairly well, especially sans the captain and one of the top scorers. The PP being better is a bonus, for sure, and the team is starting to show more structure, flow and balance than they've had in the past. They've been solid 5-on-5 the past few seasons, a good PP will def make an impact over the course of the season.

Still way too soon to make any true valuations, but I do like the direction things are going, how the PP looks, how well the coaches are managing ice time, and that scoring is starting to come from more a few more varied places. As the new system becomes more second nature, I personally like the direction things are heading.

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11-03-2013, 01:48 AM
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anyone have a digital copy of this game? god damn dish network said Rangers vs Hurricanes, but what it recorded was Canucks VS Maple Leafs.


grrrrrrrrr
you can join hockeystreams for one day. all games are archived. You could watch a few games plus the live ones. $7.50 for one day.

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11-03-2013, 01:54 AM
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Not to nitpick here but I'm curious as to why MZA & Kreider were awarded assists on Stepan's first goal when it appears 2 Canes players touched or made contact with the puck before it found it's way over to Stepan's stick.... Is that typical operating procedure when awarding assists or just a case of generous stat-keeping?

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11-03-2013, 01:16 AM
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Not to nitpick here but I'm curious as to why MZA & Kreider were awarded assists on Stepan's first goal when it appears 2 Canes players touched or made contact with the puck before it found it's way over to Stepan's stick.... Is that typical operating procedure when awarding assists or just a case of generous stat-keeping?
I think they need to have possession of the puck.

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11-03-2013, 01:28 AM
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I've always had the impression that we're horrible at building leads when we score the first goal but it turns out we're just bad at scoring the first goal. We're 15/19 on making the game 2-0 after leading 1-0 last year which is just under 80%. Aside from the one 1-0 OTW against the Isles (Dan Girardi goal from Brassard), we were 19/47 on scoring the first goal which is just over 40%. I'll be staying tuned for our trend on scoring 1st.

We've scored the first goal 6 times out of our 13 games which is just under 50%. We're 5 for 6 when scoring the first goal and the only loss when scoring first is sort of a novel lead with a 5-3 PPG 3:27 which to me has a different dynamic and effect than scoring a goal after the game has settled or a goal that settles the game.

Either way, we were 15/19 on making it 2-0 after a 1-0 lead, and we were 18-2-1 when scoring the first goal last season. Whether it's Henrik/D or if it's Torts, we have to find a way to start the game strong.

Dave alluded to how Henrik was scored on on the 4th, 4th, 7th, 6th, 7th, and 2nd shot on goal (or something like that) and we were also bad with penalties to start the season Pouliot with a penalty 1:00 in against PHX, 2 penalties in the 1st against LA, the refs ****ing us over in SJS resulting in gutting SHG, 3 penalties against STL in the 1st, NYR taking the only 2 penalities from both teams in the first period against the caps resulting in 1:00 of 5-3, Pouliot penalty 4:00 in against NJD, Boyle penalty 3:00 in against PHI, Pouliot 1:00 in against DET then Pyatt at 6:00 in, John Moore 2:30 in against MTL)

I think the struggles we had early on is sort of the dark shadows of a poor start that's forgotten about after we get blown out. A better start to a few of those games, we would have had a fighting chance.

Henrik has been saying that one line a lot. "You can't play a perfect 60 minutes" or "You can't expect to dominant the entire time". He started saying that this season I noticed. I think AV is trying really hard to teach this team how to handle momentum changes. Torts emphasized it A LOT as well last year but the two coaches have a different approach to it because of their system. Puck possession is I suppose the buzz phrase for momentum and controlling the game and Torts's efforts didn't achieve that.

Hopefully we can control the momentum better this year as a team and I'm guessing Henrik and the defense has a lot to do with how well we play with leads. If we can play with a lot of speed and transition out of our zone and start attacking, I think we'll have a better time getting that important 1st goal.

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11-03-2013, 02:58 AM
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Oddly I thought this was actually a mediocre performance compared to recent efforts despite putting 5 on the board. Caught some bounces.

Definitely nice to pick up 2 more points. Next week has some big tests.

Lastly, Zucc and Dorsett have really picked it up.
Great point, I agree.

At first I missed the NYI game, and then I only saw highlights from the Buffalo game, and I thought we looked like world beaters and created a ton of chances. But then I caught a rerun of that game and Buff really just rolled over.

Tonight, the K-Step-Zucc line really struggled basically until Hagelin made it 2-0. They couldn't get out of their own end the first 15 minutes. Then they combined for 9 pts, so from a lot of perspectives they were awsome. But they struggled alot before we made it 2-0 in second period. Zucc is making "the" plays, but he hasn't been that super crisp (and how the **** is he looking? The sweater makes him look fat, he got a 'stache, red eyes and long hair); Stepan had a few good shifts, especially on the PP, but contributed mostly in the quite -- looking at the entire night; Kreider is finding ways to contribute, but in relation to comments like "he has put it together now", I think he is playing well enough not to be demoted. Not that much more than that.

We are definitely doing alot of really good things and will get some good depth when everyone is back. But we are still a bit suspect.

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Do you guys remember 2011-12 where we went 3-4-3 in the first 10 games and then won 7 in a row? It's too early to say anything, but I'm just saying
Was that the year one of the Staal-brothers last played good hockey in this league? (j/k)


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