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11-03-2013, 08:28 PM
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Sure. Giving up our most tradeable asset for a cap dump, an oft injured small stature player was a stroke of genius. Plan the parade.
Yeah, that MPS is sure lighting it up in St. Louis.

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11-03-2013, 08:33 PM
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The Perron/MSP trade was a massive win for us.
We won the trade but IMO it would've been nice to have gotten a bigger body in return. That said Perron plays a gritty game, but more bulk would've been nice to add a different element to the club.

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Just announced on twitter. Mactavish will be taking over head coaching duties and play as 4th line center. He will be allowed to play without a helmet but will have to coach with a helmet on to counter balance the awesomeness of it all.

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We won the trade but IMO it would've been nice to have gotten a bigger body in return. That said Perron plays a gritty game, but more bulk would've been nice to add a different element to the club.
I love Perron's game, he plays like he is much bigger. Every one is so obsessed with size, but if you don't use it it doesn't help. The down side with Perron are the injuries. Hopefully he is going to be healthy most of his contract here.

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11-03-2013, 08:39 PM
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Just announced on twitter. Mactavish will be taking over head coaching duties and play as 4th line center. He will be allowed to play without a helmet but will have to coach with a helmet on to counter balance the awesomeness of it all.
I am skeptical, do you have a link to the Twitter feed?

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I love Perron's game, he plays like he is much bigger. Every one is so obsessed with size, but if you don't use it it doesn't help. The down side with Perron are the injuries. Hopefully he is going to be healthy most of his contract here.
A guy that can move bodies is what I want, whether he's 6'5" or 5'5". For example Arcobello is stronger than Gagner and RNH in spite of being shorter than both.

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A guy that can move bodies is what I want, whether he's 6'5" or 5'5". For example Arcobello is stronger than Gagner and RNH in spite of being shorter than both.
Arco? really, I have been impressed with his game and we all agree he has looked good, but, he has been moving bodies? He looks very week out there IMO. Both Gags and Nuge are stronger on the puck.

ps, I do agree this team needs more size and grit. Joenssu looked like a great additions, but, like every one else is hurt all the time. I think we need to add a solid top 9 forward that can hit/fight and stay healthy. they are not that easy to find though.

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Arco? really, I have been impressed with his game and we all agree he has looked good, but, he has been moving bodies? He looks very week out there IMO. Both Gags and Nuge are stronger on the puck.

ps, I do agree this team needs more size and grit. Joenssu looked like a great additions, but, like every one else is hurt all the time. I think we need to add a solid top 9 forward that can hit/fight and stay healthy. they are not that easy to find though.
I don't see anyone on this team as being as weak on the puck as Gagner. Arco hits harder and is harder to move off the puck than Gagner.

Joensuu is a good example of what size and strength can do. If we had a couple more Joensuu types we could have an actual competitive team up front.

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Arco? really, I have been impressed with his game and we all agree he has looked good, but, he has been moving bodies? He looks very week out there IMO. Both Gags and Nuge are stronger on the puck.

ps, I do agree this team needs more size and grit. Joenssu looked like a great additions, but, like every one else is hurt all the time. I think we need to add a solid top 9 forward that can hit/fight and stay healthy. they are not that easy to find though.
Arco has been much more physical than Nuge or Gagner. You can see it out there, always in your face, finiahing checks. Good tenacious player.

He also has 31 hits and Is 4th on our team there.

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Arco has been much more physical than Nuge or Gagner. You can see it out there, always in your face, finiahing checks. Good tenacious player.

He also has 31 hits and Is 4th on our team there.
Well of course he is ahead of Gagner, Gags has played 2 games. Dont' get me wrong, I like Arco, he tries and I like that. However, he doesn't exactly get a lot done. He isn't a super effective Checker. I would rather some one put in Effort than not, I agree, but doens't mean he gets much done out there. He isn't a strong checker, he isn't strong on the puck, he just isn't.

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We won the trade but IMO it would've been nice to have gotten a bigger body in return. That said Perron plays a gritty game, but more bulk would've been nice to add a different element to the club.
I think it comes down to us not being able to get a guy who is both a big body and can score. The fact that we were able to get a top 6 for MSP is a win right there, Perron plays bigger than anyone in that group I think.

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How many of us are really happy about Perron, other than the fact that he is ill? He has been a bright spot in the black hole that is our record.
Ive been happy with Perron. But the fact is he is another small/skilled winger, something that we do not need any more of here. We could have used Paajarvi or a package that included Paajarvi to fill a need. Like a goaltender, dman or center. Lots of choices. Small winger shouldnt have been one of them, regardless of how much we like Perron and how he has played. The team has won three games in their first fifteen. Chances are we may have more wins with an upgrade at goalie, defense, or center.

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The only positive is that this season may finally make it glaringly obvious that this core will never win anything. I can't wait to see some of these pansies get traded for guys that actually compete even if they aren't as skilled.

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It is positive thinking only 67 to go
That's a lot of terrible play to endure...

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Luckily we still have our most tradeable asset in Linus Omark.

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I think it comes down to us not being able to get a guy who is both a big body and can score. The fact that we were able to get a top 6 for MSP is a win right there, Perron plays bigger than anyone in that group I think.
I get your point, however until we start moving some of these smaller skilled guys to fill needs it is going to leave our team imbalanced and quite frankly not very good. Let me ask you this, if we decided to move Perron right now, would he fetch us more than Paajarvi and a 2nd would've at the end of last season? Could we see Perron getting dealt in a short time?

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Ive been happy with Perron. But the fact is he is another small/skilled winger, something that we do not need any more of here. We could have used Paajarvi or a package that included Paajarvi to fill a need. Like a goaltender, dman or center. Lots of choices. Small winger shouldnt have been one of them, regardless of how much we like Perron and how he has played. The team has won three games in their first fifteen. Chances are we may have more wins with an upgrade at goalie, defense, or center.
I agree and even though he is grittier than most of our other top 6 guys we could really use a few trades with us moving small skill for bigger guys that can play and hopefully stand up for their teammates.

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I get your point, however until we start moving some of these smaller skilled guys to fill needs it is going to leave our team imbalanced and quite frankly not very good. Let me ask you this, if we decided to move Perron right now, would he fetch us more than Paajarvi and a 2nd would've at the end of last season? Could we see Perron getting dealt in a short time?
I'd still move someone else. Perron isn't the solution, but he's an improvement

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Perron. Gordon. Joensuu. Arcobello. I don't miss Tambo's non-interviews.

One good point is that when this team finally turns, damn it's going to feel good. :-)

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Ive been happy with Perron. But the fact is he is another small/skilled winger, something that we do not need any more of here. We could have used Paajarvi or a package that included Paajarvi to fill a need. Like a goaltender, dman or center. Lots of choices. Small winger shouldnt have been one of them, regardless of how much we like Perron and how he has played. The team has won three games in their first fifteen. Chances are we may have more wins with an upgrade at goalie, defense, or center.
You're right, I'm guessing MacT pulled the trigger on the first thing that came up, without asking for a better trade.

It's just silly to be complaining about an actual trade-win for us. WHen does that ever happen? PRV was bigger than Perron, but didn't play like it.We traded a probably third line winger who has a big body but hasn't learned how to use it for a top 6 winger who has a small body but knows how to use it. I fail to see the downside, other than the 'well, we could have gotten more in return if we made the right choices' line, cause that will always be true in hindsight.

Just complaining for the sake of complaining when there are actual things that are worthy of complaining about.

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You're right, I'm guessing MacT pulled the trigger on the first thing that came up, without asking for a better trade.

It's just silly to be complaining about an actual trade-win for us. WHen does that ever happen? PRV was bigger than Perron, but didn't play like it.We traded a probably third line winger who has a big body but hasn't learned how to use it for a top 6 winger who has a small body but knows how to use it. I fail to see the downside, other than the 'well, we could have gotten more in return if we made the right choices' line, cause that will always be true in hindsight.

Just complaining for the sake of complaining when there are actual things that are worthy of complaining about.
I voiced concerns when the deal was made. No hindsight there. The Blues moved Perron because they had to clear cap space, not because they wanted to get rid of Perron. Nobody had a gun to Mact's head to make that deal. Who's to say he couldnt have made a deal for Paajarvi to address a real need on our team? If nothing was available then you wait until something becomes available. You dont just take something you already have a surplus of in favour of filling a glaring need on your team. That's stupid. And if you think pointing something like that out is complaining for the sake of complaining that's your prerogative. The team has 3 wins in 15 games. Complaining for the sake of complaining? Whoo boy.

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