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11-03-2013, 07:45 PM
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Shhh... don't ruin a good story with facts.

Their opponents weren't exactly all worldly last year either. Some of the losses last year were inexcusable. Like losing to the 4-12 Lions at home in OT after having the lead. Being horrendous against the 5-11 Kevin Kolb led Cardinals wasn't good. They had the lead against the 8-8 Steelers late and couldn't finish. The mortal sin is losing against the Cowboys twice, the team who was 6-8 outside of games vs. the Eagles.
Lets not forget that Reid inherited an excellent group of players, pretty much like he did when he came to Philly.

Reid is a fraud and it will show after he has had a couple years to draft his usual group of crap. His talent evaluation will drive KC into the ground.

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Lets not forget that Reid inherited an excellent group of players, pretty much like he did when he came to Philly.

Reid is a fraud and it will show after he has had a couple years to draft his usual group of crap. His talent evaluation will drive KC into the ground.
Lol that 1999 team was average at absolute homerific best. Stop trying to knock Reid down since he's succeeding. To say he's a fraud is complete sour Philly grapes and nothing more.

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Lol that 1999 team was average at absolute homerific best. Stop trying to knock Reid down since he's succeeding. To say he's a fraud is complete sour Philly grapes and nothing more.
there defense was not horrific, they had a bunch of great players. He inherited Dawkins, Vincent, Taylor, and Hugh Douglas. All of which were impact player. He was also inherited Trotter. He is an slightly above average coach that is bound to make the crucial mistake that will cost his team the game in the playoffs. He never learns from his mistakes.

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Lol that 1999 team was average at absolute homerific best. Stop trying to knock Reid down since he's succeeding. To say he's a fraud is complete sour Philly grapes and nothing more.
Actually, its quite factual when you look at the guys last 7-9 years in Philly. Jim Johnson made Reid who he was, and Reid fell hard after JJ passed. Wait until he drafts a Watkins or Graham; wait until a team in the postseason dismantles his smarter-than-everyone offense; wait until he makes his OL coach the DC or moves a DT to FB...

He is a fraud and ill make sure to bump your staunch Reid fluffing posts when he eventually fails in KC, which won't take long. The fall from grace will be sudden.

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there defense was not horrific, they had a bunch of great players. He inherited Dawkins, Vincent, Taylor, and Hugh Douglas. All of which were impact player. He was also inherited Trotter. He is an slightly above average coach that is bound to make the crucial mistake that will cost his team the game in the playoffs. He never learns from his mistakes.
It takes an above average coach to take talent and turn it into success.

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11-03-2013, 08:06 PM
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Actually, its quite factual when you look at the guys last 7-9 years in Philly. Jim Johnson made Reid who he was, and Reid fell hard after JJ passed. Wait until he drafts a Watkins or Graham; wait until a team in the postseason dismantles his smarter-than-everyone offense; wait until he makes his OL coach the DC or moves a DT to FB...

He is a fraud and ill make sure to bump your staunch Reid fluffing posts when he eventually fails in KC, which won't take long. The fall from grace will be sudden.
OK...go ahead..bitter Philly grapes who can't appreciate the best era in eagles history(not even debatable). He's still 9-0 with a team that was by far the worst in the NFL last year... But he's average at best lol lol lol

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OK...go ahead..bitter Philly grapes who can't appreciate the best era in eagles history(not even debatable). He's still 9-0 with a team that was by far the worst in the NFL last year... But he's average at best lol lol lol
You live in complete denial of what Reid really is. It's ok, a lot of people do.

That group of players for KC were not the worst in the nfl last year. Reid seems like a good coach when he inherits good players, but eventually his control freak nature is going to come out and ruin the talent on the team. Players will also start ignoring him after he calls 60 pass plays in a PO game and loses by 20 points to a terrible rushing defense.

It will happen.

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You live in complete denial of what Reid really is. It's ok, a lot of people do.

That group of players for KC were not the worst in the nfl last year. Reid seems like a good coach when he inherits good players, but eventually his control freak nature is going to come out and ruin the talent on the team. Players will also start ignoring him after he calls 60 pass plays in a PO game and loses by 20 points to a terrible rushing defense.

It will happen.
They only had the worst record in the NFL...but god dammit they had talent lol lol lol

Why hasn't chip turned this bunch into champs in his first year if it was solely on Reid?

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No, Reid's tenure here was the best decade of football in franchise history. A person doesn't win all the games Reid has with just talent alone. There also needs to be a plan and structure, which Reid provided outside the past few years. Overall, Reid is a good coach; he has his flaws like every single coach and person on the planet does, but he also has his strengths. I appreciate everything he did, but it was just time to move on.

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No, Reid's tenure here was the best decade of football in franchise history. A person doesn't win all the games Reid has with just talent alone. There also needs to be a plan and structure, which Reid provided outside the past few years. Overall, Reid is a good coach; he has his flaws like every single coach and person on the planet does, but he also has his strengths. I appreciate everything he did, but it was just time to move on.
Someone who gets it. I hate hearing all these fans knock down Reid this year that he sucks and inherited talent. Its bitter grapes that he didn't win the big one...nothing more.

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They only had the worst record in the NFL...but god dammit they had talent lol lol lol

Why hasn't chip turned this bunch into champs in his first year if it was solely on Reid?
Lol, you're not paying attention at all. I'm just gonna assume you're drunk because you're arguing against yourself.

Danny Watkins
Brandon Graham
Traded out of 1st round (pick sent to f'ing Dallas) to get Kolb
Traded out of 1st to grab Trevor Laws in the 2nd
Maclin (might be ok if he wasn't made of glass)
Cox (meh, ok... Nothing special)
Patterson (meh)
Bunkley (meh)
Shawn Andrews (head case)

Out of the last nine Reid drafts, 2 players were starters on the team. The others just held spots because the team couldn't admit they made a mistake, and the players were there by default. Watkins may just be the worst 1st round pick in team history.... And, it's not as if Reid found late round gems that played at a high level. His picks turn out to be less than average players that wouldn't even be starters on most teams.

My point is not that Reid is a bad coach; its that he's a control freak that will eventually destroy KC with his talent evaluation.


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Lol, you're not paying attention at all. I'm just gonna assume you're drunk because you're arguing against yourself.

Danny Watkins- was a risk that failed...given to you but wasnt a massive reach
Brandon Graham-showed signs of turning around before the switch to 3-4...would be starting this year if in 4-3
Traded out of 1st round to get Kolb...same as foles if he isn't concussed til the end of time
Traded out of 1st (pick to Dallas) to grab Trevor Laws in the 2nd...fail..given
Maclin (might be ok if he wasn't made of glass)...#1 receiver on the team and isn't close
Cox (meh, ok... Nothing special) starting DT nbd
Patterson (meh)starter
Bunkley (meh) starter
Shawn Andrews (head case) starter

Out of the last nine Reid drafts, 2 players were starters on the team. The others just held spots because the team couldn't admit they made a mistake, and the players were there by default. Watkins may just be the worst 1st round pick in team history.... And, it's not as if Reid found late round gems that played at a high level. His picks turn out to be less than average players that wouldn't even be starters on most teams.
Corrected to show how much sour grapes you have against this man. Pretty sad really :/

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bitter grapes, nah. Id much rather have chip kelly than him. everyone knew KC had a very good defense, they just lacked a competent qb. when you have a terrible qb, you can go 2-14 with a good defense. but hey, dont let the facts get in the way.

The man is a slightly above average coach who is god awful at evaluating talent. he is what he is.

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bitter grapes, nah. everyone knew they had a very good defense, they just lacked a competent qb. when you have a terrible qb, you can go 2-14 with a very good defense. but hey, dont let the facts get in the way.

The man is a slightly above average coach who is god awful at evaluating talent. he is what he is.
That "very good" defense was ranked 20th in total d last year..25th in points allowed... But yeah what a talented team. Keep ignoring the facts...

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Corrected to show how much sour grapes you have against this man. Pretty sad really :/
You're ridiculous if you think Watkins wasn't much of a reach. A 26 year old Canadian firefighter with 2 years experience playing football is not much of a reach for a 1st round pick, lol.

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That "very good" defense was ranked 20th in total d last year..25th in points allowed... But yeah what a talented team. Keep ignoring the facts...
You are using, at best, 1.5 years of stats to disprove the last 8 years of stats.... Sample size anyone?

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You're ridiculous if you think Watkins wasn't much of a reach. A 26 year old Canadian firefighter with 2 years experience playing football is not much of a reach for a 1st round pick, lol.

He was a consensus 1st round, high 2nd round pick , unless the other 31 teams also suck at drafting. So he may of been a bit of a reach but not a gigantic reach... Unless like I said no one in the NFL knows what they're doing.

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That "very good" defense was ranked 20th in total d last year..25th in points allowed... But yeah what a talented team.
ummm Justin Houston and Tamba Hali are probably the best pass rushing duo in the league and were both pro bowlers last year including Hali being being an all pro. Derrick Johnson and Eric Berry have also been selected to the All Pro team within the last two seasons. Brandon Flowers and Tyson Jackson are also beasts, Im starting question whether or not you watch football .

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You are using, at best, 1.5 years of stats to disprove the last 8 years of stats.... Sample size anyone?
you said Reid inherited a talented team... Didnt know a 2-14 team with bottom 10 d and o was talented.. News to me. Is Jacksonville talented this year? What about Tampa? I'm sure both will probably be 9-0 next year with a new "slightly above average" coach.

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ummm Justin Houston and Tamba Hali are probably the best pass rushing duo in the league and were both pro bowlers last year including Hali being being an all pro in 2011. Derick Johnson and Eric Berry have also been selected to the All Pro team within the last two seasons. Brandon Flowers and Tyson Jackson are also beasts, Im starting question whether or not you watch football .
If they were massively talented why were they a bottom 10 defense? Please answer the question not dodge it.

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Co you said Reid inherited a talented team... Didnt know a 2-14 team with bottom 10 d and o was talented.. News to me. Is Jacksonville talented this year? What about Tampa? I'm sure both will probably be 9-0 next year with a new "slightly above average" coach.
Please read the post directly above yours.

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What I have learned in this thread: Andy Reid is the only reason the Chiefs are undefeated .

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What I have learned in this thread: Andy Reid is the only reason the Chiefs are undefeated .
What I've learned cant be typed unless I want infractions.

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If they were massively talented why were they a bottom 10 defense? Please answer the question not dodge it.
Do you understand that stats without context are almost completely worthless?

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ummm Justin Houston and Tamba Hali are probably the best pass rushing duo in the league and were both pro bowlers last year including Hali being being an all pro. Derrick Johnson and Eric Berry have also been selected to the All Pro team within the last two seasons. Brandon Flowers and Tyson Jackson are also beasts, Im starting question whether or not you watch football .
Using pro bowls as stats ... Holy hell I've seen everything. TEAM keyword TEAM stats have them as a bottom 5 d and o...where's the talent..cool you've names 4 players on a 26 person roster using pro bowl a as your back up to say how talented they are. It's great seriously lol

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