HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Philadelphia Flyers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Game #14|Tue., Nov. 5, 2013| Flyers at Hurricanes |7:30 p.m. ET

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-05-2013, 12:09 PM
  #76
FrankM95149
Rakim is GOAT
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Near Philly
Country: United States
Posts: 1,784
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 View Post
It's definitely something they need to look at & possibly change in the future but the NHL's hands were tied with this one, it would have caused a ****storm with the NHLPA if they bended the rules & suspended Emery. That's why I think it's laughable when people say he should have gotten 10+ games for it.
Yeah I agree, nothing in the rules that says you can suspend him. But I even hear people saying Holtby should file a lawsuit..... sissies

FrankM95149 is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:10 PM
  #77
Hiesenberg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Country: United States
Posts: 3,354
vCash: 491
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankM95149 View Post
Yeah I agree, nothing in the rules that says you can suspend him. But I even hear people saying Holtby should file a lawsuit..... sissies
If he does, he should quit hockey, because he will get harassed every single game.

Hiesenberg is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:14 PM
  #78
FrankM95149
Rakim is GOAT
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Near Philly
Country: United States
Posts: 1,784
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiesenberg View Post
If he does, he should quit hockey, because he will get harassed every single game.
Im sure Holtby won't, but I just think people are making a huge deal out of this when really it isn't If it were Anaheim's goalie we all would have forgot about it the next day, but since it was the goalie who plays for the Most Classless city in the USA, people cause a ****storm

FrankM95149 is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:20 PM
  #79
Ryker
Registered User
 
Ryker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Triangle, NC, USA
Country: Slovenia
Posts: 2,894
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by usahockey22flyers View Post


Luke should be playing, and IMO Berube should have rewarded Emery with another start.
Why should Emery be rewarded with another start when Mason is clearly the number one goalie at this point? Emery hasn't played that well in any of his games, and sure, in the last one he got a shutout and made all the saves he needed to, but those were ones that I think even AHL goalies wouldn't have trouble with. There's no need to start trying things out when things are, in my opinion at least, pretty clear in terms of goaltending matters.

Ryker is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:22 PM
  #80
Hiesenberg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Country: United States
Posts: 3,354
vCash: 491
Mason's last game was that WSH drubbing, you gotta get him back out to make sure he didn't go goofy again like he did in CLB

Hiesenberg is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:34 PM
  #81
FlyersFanz
aut viam inveniam au
 
FlyersFanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: BlkVanOutsideUrHouse
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,987
vCash: 500
Just reported that L.Schenn is once again a healthy scratch tonight against the Canes.

FlyersFanz is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:56 PM
  #82
Beef Invictus
Global Moderator
Beefitor
 
Beef Invictus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Centreville
Country: Lord Howe Island
Posts: 38,239
vCash: 156
There has to be some behind the scenes **** with Luke going on.

__________________
Down in the basement, I've got a Craftsman lathe. Show it to the children when they misbehave.
Beef Invictus is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 12:57 PM
  #83
SolidSnakeUS
Registered User
 
SolidSnakeUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Pipersville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 29,851
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beef Invictus View Post
There has to be some behind the scenes **** with Luke going on.
If something is going bad, how about what I suggested for a trade earlier?

SolidSnakeUS is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:03 PM
  #84
GoneFullHextall
adios Holmgren
 
GoneFullHextall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Somewhere in NH
Country: United States
Posts: 31,623
vCash: 50
Luke Schenn is scratched again. something must be up right? right?
its the Flyers. so I am going to say no. everything is going along normally.

at least Berube is sitting that slug Rosehill tonight.

GoneFullHextall is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:04 PM
  #85
Hiesenberg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Country: United States
Posts: 3,354
vCash: 491
I don't know why people think there is something up. Many people seem to notice that L. Schenn stinks this year, they mention bad footwork, bad decisions, bad angles. Basically everything he did well last year, he's doing the opposite.

Hiesenberg is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:06 PM
  #86
Flyerss
Registered User
 
Flyerss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 4,640
vCash: 50
Quote:
Second, Schenn is right-handed. I know that many people do not think this is a big deal, but hear me out. Right now, seven out of the eight Flyers defensemen are left-handed. On Saturday, the Flyers started six lefties. When a defenseman is going to retrieve a dump-in on the goalies right side, a left-handed player must either play the puck behind the net, or pass it blindly up the boards. Because it is unwise to throw around blind passes, most of the Flyers defenseman on the right side just end up passing the puck to their defense partner behind the net. This gives the opposing forward more time to get up on the fore-check and disrupt the Flyers breakout.
http://broadstreetbuzz.com/2013/11/0...e-luke-schenn/

Flyerss is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:15 PM
  #87
Garbage Goal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 17,228
vCash: 500
Don't see us winning this one. Don't know how Mason will perform after his first bombing of the season and Gill+Meszaros...just no. They barely survived against a team that not only is as bad as us but is the oldest team in the league (and thus one of the slowest themselves).

Garbage Goal is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:27 PM
  #88
JDinkalage Morgoone
U of South Flurrida
 
JDinkalage Morgoone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 308 Negra Arroyo Ln.
Country: Uzbekistan
Posts: 11,986
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
Don't see us winning this one. Don't know how Mason will perform after his first bombing of the season and Gill+Meszaros...just no. They barely survived against a team that not only is as bad as us but is the oldest team in the league (and thus one of the slowest themselves).
Carolina is struggling right now too from what I understand (at least according to my friend who is a Canes fan.) Who knows. Hopefully the team can rally and win.

__________________
"Help was not promised, lovely girl. Only death."
JDinkalage Morgoone is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:27 PM
  #89
SolidSnakeUS
Registered User
 
SolidSnakeUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Pipersville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 29,851
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
Don't see us winning this one. Don't know how Mason will perform after his first bombing of the season and Gill+Meszaros...just no. They barely survived against a team that not only is as bad as us but is the oldest team in the league (and thus one of the slowest themselves).
Everyone will have bad games, but EVERYONE played bad in that Washington game. Mason will bounce back.

SolidSnakeUS is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:29 PM
  #90
garnetpalmetto
HFBoards Sponsor
 
garnetpalmetto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Durham, NC
Country: United States
Posts: 4,443
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDinklage Morgoone View Post
Carolina is struggling right now too from what I understand (at least according to my friend who is a Canes fan.) Who knows. Hopefully the team can rally and win.
Struggling isn't the half of it. We're on a 5 game losing streak. Our starting goalie and our NHL backup are both out. Our goalies right now started the season as the starter/backup combo for our AHL club. We have no offense, the players you expect to produce (the Staals and Semin especially) have gone cold and the one player who was chipping in offensively, Skinner, has been out with a wrist/arm injury. Please, oh Bullies of Broad Street, have mercy on us.

__________________
garnetpalmetto is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:33 PM
  #91
Garbage Goal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 17,228
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDinklage Morgoone View Post
Carolina is struggling right now too from what I understand (at least according to my friend who is a Canes fan.) Who knows. Hopefully the team can rally and win.
That's the only reason I think a win is even remotely possible, because Carolina sucks as badly as us right now. They're coming off five losses in a row and eventually that loss streak will end. No reason why it isn't favorable to end tonight when they're playing a team just as bad as them that's electing to bench Luke Schenn and Gustafsson to play a Gill-Meszaros pairing. Even against NJ Gill-Meszaros got hemmed into their own zone multiple times and that was against the slowest team in the league, with as many wins as us at the time (now less then us), and missing two key forwards.

Just saying that Carolina will win one eventually and probably some point soon. The Flyers are also playing with fire and asking to get burnt by playing a Gill-Meszaros pairing until it loses them a game.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS View Post
Everyone will have bad games, but EVERYONE played bad in that Washington game. Mason will bounce back.
I don't doubt that, but he also has a history of doing the opposite in Columbus and he hasn't seen a lot of bad play from himself in Philly so I'm just waiting to see how he reacts.

Garbage Goal is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:47 PM
  #92
bennysflyers16
Registered User
 
bennysflyers16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,867
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
Don't see us winning this one. Don't know how Mason will perform after his first bombing of the season and Gill+Meszaros...just no. They barely survived against a team that not only is as bad as us but is the oldest team in the league (and thus one of the slowest themselves).
Didn't we hold Devils to like 16 shots, what more could they have done ? I think it is insanity that Luke is benched again, but Canes are horrible and not an auto loss no matter who are the D men .

bennysflyers16 is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:51 PM
  #93
Garbage Goal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 17,228
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennysflyers16 View Post
Didn't we hold Devils to like 16 shots, what more could they have done ? I think it is insanity that Luke is benched again, but Canes are horrible and not an auto loss no matter who are the D men .
I don't know about shots, but the Devils are barely better then us offensively. 28th in goals for (two spots above us) and 25th in goal differential (one spot above us).

They were also missing Elias and Zajac, two forwards very key to their offensive group one way or another. The game the night after ours against Minnesota, they also only had like 20 or so shots on goal that night.

It was a really bad team offensively on par with us that was missing two key forwards. Not really a wonder that we limited the shots against. Did you watch the game? It was the most boring game I've seen in a long while because it was two horrible teams with injuries going at it. There were also times where the Gill-Meszaros pairing was visibly hemmed into the defensive zone.

Garbage Goal is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:52 PM
  #94
Garbage Goal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 17,228
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennysflyers16 View Post
Didn't we hold Devils to like 16 shots, what more could they have done ? I think it is insanity that Luke is benched again, but Canes are horrible and not an auto loss no matter who are the D men .
I never used the words auto loss either. I'm just saying I don't see us winning this.

Garbage Goal is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:57 PM
  #95
Appleyard
Registered User
 
Appleyard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Manc/Shef/Utrecht
Country: Netherlands
Posts: 5,773
vCash: 165
Can't believe Gill and Mez start again as a pair.

Yeh, Flyers may have won and not let up many shots (vs an awful debs team) but every time those two were on they got hemmed in their own zone.

Gill and Mez should not be here after next year, they bring very little with no upside, only decline.

Gus and Schenn have both played better than Mez, are good value and have a future.

Gill somehow had -39 and -18.41 corsi in that game... in 15 minutes, with a devils team that only got 16 shots off, and he was on ice for one of our goals! **** me that is poor.

Mez has -11 and -15 with the easiest QoC of any D man... the worst of any D man with more than 1 game!


Last edited by Appleyard: 11-05-2013 at 02:06 PM.
Appleyard is online now  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:58 PM
  #96
bennysflyers16
Registered User
 
bennysflyers16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,867
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
I never used the words auto loss either. I'm just saying I don't see us winning this.
Just saying FLyers held that ****** Devils team to under 20 shots and 0 goals, not much more they could off done. Canes are just as bad as Devils , so no reason cant do it tonight. Flyers offense has a better chance of putting up goals than Canes imo. Other than Staal and Semin, they are pretty weak.

I was out and watched loaded at like 1 am, but don't recall Emery standing on his head at all ? Could be wrong though .

bennysflyers16 is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 01:59 PM
  #97
bennysflyers16
Registered User
 
bennysflyers16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 16,867
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Appleyard View Post
Can't believe Gill and Mez start again as a pair.

Yeh, Flyers may have won and not let up many shots (vs an awful debs team) but every time those two were on they got hemmed in their own zone.

Gill and Mez should not be here after next year, they bring very little with no upside, only decline.

Gus and Schenn have both played better than Mez, are good value and have a future.

Gill somehow had -39 and -18.41 corsi in that game... in 13 minutes, with a devils team that only got 16 shots off. **** me that is poor.

Mez has -11 and -15 with the easiest QoC of any D man... the worst of any D man with more than 1 game!
Nothing should surprise you with Holmer and now Berube. Berube has made a lot of questionable decisions in his short time as boss.

bennysflyers16 is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 02:01 PM
  #98
Garbage Goal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 17,228
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennysflyers16 View Post
Just saying FLyers held that ****** Devils team to under 20 shots and 0 goals, not much more they could off done. Canes are just as bad as Devils , so no reason cant do it tonight. Flyers offense has a better chance of putting up goals than Canes imo. Other than Staal and Semin, they are pretty weak.
Refer to the post above you.

Also, the Hurricanes aren't the oldest team in the league and the Devils weren't on a five game skid when we faced them IIRC. I know it sounds odd to use losses of the opponent as a way to say we'll lose, but it's inarguable that the Hurricanes are going to win eventually. How often do you see six game loss streaks? Or anything greater then that?

Like I said before, the Flyers are playing with fire arbitrarily and the Hurricanes are going to have to win one eventually even if it is by luck or by crappy quality opponents.

Garbage Goal is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 02:03 PM
  #99
Garbage Goal
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 17,228
vCash: 500
For what it's worth, the Devils have been shutout two games in a row (with Elias and Zajac missing in both games) and in terms of minutes played they've been shutout for well over two games now.

Garbage Goal is offline  
Old
11-05-2013, 02:04 PM
  #100
Flyerfan4life
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Richmond BC, Canada
Country: England
Posts: 12,114
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbage Goal View Post
Don't see us winning this one. Don't know how Mason will perform after his first bombing of the season and Gill+Meszaros...just no. They barely survived against a team that not only is as bad as us but is the oldest team in the league (and thus one of the slowest themselves).
Mason bombed the WSH. game ???

umm he only allowed 3, Emery allowed 4..

and the entire team from waterboy on up to the Capn stank the place out...

gunna give Mason a full pass on that game (maybe if he stayed in the full game, i might think differently)

put i think he was pulled before the game got to him, and sas a message for the team to gets its head out of its ass, which obviously never happened, in fact i think the team drove its collective head even farther up its ass after Mase got yanked...

Flyerfan4life is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.