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12-17-2006, 03:26 PM
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Why only 3 lines yesterday vs. sabres?

Hi everyone. First off I congratulate the Senators for a game well played... being a Sabres fan it impress's me at how well the Sens play against us on a consistent basis.

It impresses me even more that the Sens only played 3 lines yesterday. I noticed on the nhl.com shift chart that Hamel, Mcgrattan, and Mcammond did not play at all in the game, but sat on the bench the whole time.

Why is that, I couldn’t find any info about it and us Sabres fans are confused as to why this would happen. Thanks ahead of time for the info.

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12-17-2006, 03:30 PM
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The Sens lack of depth is biggest reason for the absence of fourth line. Hamel and McGratton would absolutely be exposed by a quick Sabres team.

The teams weakness will have to be addressed before the playoffs

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The Sens lack of depth is biggest reason for the absence of fourth line. Hamel and McGratton would absolutely be exposed by a quick Sabres team.

The teams weakness will have to be addressed befor the playoffs
works for me, its just that our local sports radio station said that those 3 players refused to play because of the loss to nashville... and i instantly refused to believe that any nhl player let alone an entire line would refuse to play because of a loss... if anything they would want to come back out with something to prove.

thanks for the info.

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works for me, its just that our local sports radio station said that those 3 players refused to play because of the loss to nashville.
It's safe to say that your radio station was full of nonsense about that particular issue.

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12-17-2006, 03:39 PM
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I think a combination of our 4th line being pretty bad (McCammond is an NHLer but Hamel and Mcgratts are borderline), playing against a fast and talented team that has exceptional depth, and the game being close throughtout meant that Murray wasn't comfortable putting out the 4th line.

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12-17-2006, 03:42 PM
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Our fourth line hasn't played as much since Kelly was moved onto the 1st line with Spezza and Heatley and Schubert has been filling in for the injured Redden on defence.

Schubert and Kelly are both very defensively responsible as forwards.

Hamel is an AHL offensive player, McGrattan is a fighter and McAmmond's play of late has been so-so.

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It's safe to say that your radio station was full of nonsense about that particular issue.
I agree

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It's not like you guys played your 4th line much either:

Mair 3:21
Peters 3:24
Novotny 6:37

To me, most forwards can play 20 minutes, which means three lines is sufficient without going overboard. Our 9 forwards all had ice time between 16:12 and 21:10, which is perfectly reasonable.

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12-17-2006, 04:05 PM
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Basically....

McGratton has a busted up hand and really shouldn't be playing and definately can't be fighting.

Hamel is useless.

McAmmond was a -3 against Nashville. They only scored 4 5 on 5 goals and he was on for 3 of them.

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12-17-2006, 05:50 PM
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Hamel is useless.
a little harsh...

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12-17-2006, 06:32 PM
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Yea, its really not that big of a deal to only play 3 lines, aslong as you play them evenly.

The sens top 3 lines are pretty balanced. theres a significant drop at the 4th line.

Its not like rolling 2 lines like Tampa did to us in the playoffs last year.

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12-17-2006, 07:02 PM
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If Ottawa wants to go anywhere in the playoffs, they have to add 1 top 6 forward and one bottom 6 guy.

Injuries will happen, and right now we don't have the depth to counter that.

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12-17-2006, 08:47 PM
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a little harsh...
A little truthfull too, hes probably one of the worst players Ive ever seen on this team.

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A little truthfull too, hes probably one of the worst players Ive ever seen on this team.
not the worst though... id say its a good tie with Jody Hull, i dont feel like mentioning others.

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A little truthfull too, hes probably one of the worst players Ive ever seen on this team.
but you remember that natural hat trick in preseason (i beleive against buffalo) he seemed to turn it on at the beginning of the season but is now the way i remeber him. He was never the fastest or most skilled which is why hes a 27/28 year old rookie.

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McAmmond was a -3 against Nashville. They only scored 4 5 on 5 goals and he was on for 3 of them.
I'd agree that McAmmond didn't step up when he had the opportunity, but with Eaves also a -3 that night, I don't think that was the dealbreaker. Did Murray mention it, or is just board-logic?

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12-17-2006, 11:28 PM
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Alot will depend on who we add at the deadline. If we add a top 6 forward, that will push Kelly back down to the 4th line with Mcammond and you could put Schubert there, assuming he isn't in the top 6 for the defence. That's a pretty solid 4th line. Not going to score much, but will be a good energy line.
Hamel is useless. He's got a good shot, but can't use it because he get's no ice time, brings no intensity and is too slow.

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im just glad that vermette is gettin the opportunity that he deserves i mean last year he only averaged 12 minz with 6 minz SH and still managed 22 goals and didnt missed a single breakaway !! he got soem talents .. futures lookin bright for him .. hopes he stays in ottawa and get better linemates which he has now ..

and hamel is useless ... senz wouldve been better of givin that russian kid a chance (kiiagradov or w/e) or just let Nick Flingo play .. he looks promising and i wud certainly pick him over Hamel!!


AND muckler shouldve signed Havlat to a 1 year deal that he insisted and maybe give havlat a lil more responsibilty and thing might of had worked out fine from there n havlat shouldve had ended up being a Sen for life like havlat wanet to!!


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