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11-02-2013, 03:25 PM
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Chose him, Connolly, and Brian Hart in various drafts in my dynasty league.
Nice, I think Hart is severely underrated, much like Killorn was until he made the NHL.
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Hopefully they call up Namestnikov with him. Those 2 were separated at birth. Add Gusev to that line and wow what a line. Gusev and Kooch destroyed juniors together back in Russia. That's chemistry
I look forward to...

Gusev - Namestnikov - Kucherov

Sergeev - Nesterov

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11-02-2013, 03:30 PM
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Where did this kid ome from? Can he play the game?

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11-02-2013, 03:31 PM
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Add Gusev to that line and wow what a line. Gusev and Kooch destroyed juniors together back in Russia. That's chemistry
Need to see how Gusev plays in North America first, or if there's any interest in bringing him over.

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11-02-2013, 03:31 PM
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Russia. He runs it.

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11-02-2013, 04:39 PM
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Hopefully they call up Namestnikov with him. Those 2 were separated at birth. Add Gusev to that line and wow what a line. Gusev and Kooch destroyed juniors together back in Russia. That's chemistry
Gusev looks bad these days.

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11-02-2013, 05:07 PM
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Gusev looks bad these days.
come on, how bad can you be playing 8 minutes per game?
and aren't you a little hasty with your conclusions? the same with kucherov, a good stretch and bum, he's a star in the making
the ahl isn't a beer league, of course, but you can't seriously compare it with the khl

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11-02-2013, 10:23 PM
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Disappointing game tonight, only one goal.

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11-03-2013, 01:16 AM
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Disappointing game tonight, only one goal.
He just keeps going. I also see he had 9 shots. Sounds like he created a lot of chances.

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11-03-2013, 01:46 AM
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he actually had a shot at like 1:30 left that the goalie looked behind himself lol for a very long time till the refs figured it was caught in his gear the goalie had no idea where it went etc..

Kid just has a lethal slap shot.

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11-03-2013, 02:10 AM
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come on, how bad can you be playing 8 minutes per game?
the ahl isn't a beer league, of course, but you can't seriously compare it with the khl
If he's not good enough to play more than 8 minutes in team like Yugra i don't know what to say. This is not the CSKA where he had a problem with playing because of a strong roster. Althrough some players younger than Gusev have more minutes in CSKA than Gusev in Yugra.
Gusev was overrated after his perfomance in the SSS and WJC couple years ago IMO.
He's a very talented kid with fantastic hockey IQ and great hands but he have alot of weaknesses to be a star on a pro level.
Maybe i'm not right saying he's bad, but he's definitely not as good like some had expected.
Btw, KHL have a team that full of AHL-caliber players. This team looks quiet good .

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11-03-2013, 04:12 PM
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11-04-2013, 05:18 PM
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Can someone refresh my memory about why does Nikita Kucherov as been draft #58 overall in the 2011 draft with a performance of 7-11-10-21 in the WJC-18 tournament? The Russian argument ain't enough. Btw, the 2011 draft is a pretty weak one.


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11-04-2013, 06:32 PM
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Can someone refresh my memory about why does Nikita Kucherov as been draft #58 overall in the 2011 draft with a performance of 7-11-10-21 in the WJC-18 tournament? The Russian argument ain't enough. Btw, the 2011 draft is pretty weak one.
One-dimensional Russian forward many didn't think would ever go to North America.

Rightly or wrongly, most NHL teams consider more factors than just pure skill at the draft.

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11-04-2013, 08:55 PM
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come on, how bad can you be playing 8 minutes per game?
and aren't you a little hasty with your conclusions? the same with kucherov, a good stretch and bum, he's a star in the making
the ahl isn't a beer league, of course, but you can't seriously compare it with the khl
Gusev is being shafted by Ugra... They are healthy scratching him currently. They have also been making some weird transactions ie. demoting bulyansky to Lada? Then Safronov and Krivonoshkin. Common its not like their so good that they can sit these guys, even if they started cold, give them a chance, these guys are solid players. Now they are going to play Plotnikov ahead of Gusev by the looks of it. He needs to get out of there --fast

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11-04-2013, 09:01 PM
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If he's not good enough to play more than 8 minutes in team like Yugra i don't know what to say. This is not the CSKA where he had a problem with playing because of a strong roster. Althrough some players younger than Gusev have more minutes in CSKA than Gusev in Yugra.
Gusev was overrated after his perfomance in the SSS and WJC couple years ago IMO.
He's a very talented kid with fantastic hockey IQ and great hands but he have alot of weaknesses to be a star on a pro level.
Maybe i'm not right saying he's bad, but he's definitely not as good like some had expected.
Btw, KHL have a team that full of AHL-caliber players. This team looks quiet good .
See my post and no way.. Gusev is one of the premier playmaking prospects of the world. Him and Kucherov were magical together in the MHL. These guys were born to play together, a true synergy. As of end of April 2012 he was more accomplished than any of the Russian players in Syracuse. He should have stayed in Amur.

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11-04-2013, 09:17 PM
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Id like to see Gusev come play over for Syracuse next year.

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11-05-2013, 09:35 PM
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It'd be spectacular to see Gusev with Kucherov in NA but I don't think Kucherov is going to wait around. If he continues this pace (hell, even half of this pace) I don't see any way possible that he doesn't hit the NHL next year.

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11-06-2013, 10:21 PM
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Got an assist tonight, scored in the shootout and was the first star of the game. An absolutely great start I hope he can remain consistent all year.

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11-07-2013, 02:05 AM
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I really wanna see the kid re called. It's hard though cause you gotta plug him in the top 6 for him to be effective.

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11-07-2013, 09:08 AM
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Potential Superstar?

TB is going to have one hell of a core...

Drouin - Stamkos - Kucherov
Panik - Namestnikov - Connolly

Hedman - ______
Barberio - Sustr
Aulie - Gudas
Koekkoek

Vasilevsky
Lindback/Bishop

That will be an exciting team to follow.

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11-07-2013, 09:14 AM
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Potential Superstar?

TB is going to have one hell of a core...

Drouin - Stamkos - Kucherov
Panik - Namestnikov - Connolly

Hedman - ______
Barberio - Sustr
Aulie - Gudas
Koekkoek

Vasilevsky
Lindback/Bishop

That will be an exciting team to follow.
I don't know about super star, but I can see him turning out to be a similar player like Semin (production-wise).

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11-07-2013, 09:22 AM
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Potential Superstar?

TB is going to have one hell of a core...

Killorn - Stamkos - Connolly
Drouin - Namestnikov - Kucherov
Palat - Johnson - Erne

Hedman - Gudas
Koekkoek - Sustr
Nesterov - Blujus
Barberio

Vasilevskiy

That will be an exciting team to follow.
The lineup looks better that way (only using U25 players).

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You guys should trade for Grigorenko and then reunite him with Kucherov and Gusev

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You guys should trade for Grigorenko and then reunite him with Kucherov and Gusev
I probably would have been all about that until I saw Kucherov and Namestnikov play together. Those guys are gold. They're really bringing out the best in JT Brown too.

I could almost see a situation like with Johnson, Palat and Panik this year where they were so good together in the AHL that the whole line sticks in the big leagues. Just not enough roster spots to make it happen.

I think you'll see Kucherov in the NHL next year, probably on the 2nd line with Filppula and Purcell.

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I probably would have been all about that until I saw Kucherov and Namestnikov play together. Those guys are gold. They're really bringing out the best in JT Brownov too.

I could almost see a situation like with Johnson, Palat and Panik this year where they were so good together in the AHL that the whole line sticks in the big leagues. Just not enough roster spots to make it happen.

I think you'll see Kucherov in the NHL next year, probably on the 2nd line with Filppula and Purcell.
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