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11-07-2013, 10:01 PM
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How is Giroux "untouchable"?? This isnt a slump for a few games, he generally sucked last season and this season he looks lost. Im not saying look to deal him because his value is at its lowest pt right now... But if someone blew your doors off with a Godfather offer i would have no problem trading him.

Everyone should be tradeable on the USS Clusterphuck.

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11-07-2013, 10:03 PM
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How is Giroux "untouchable"?? This isnt a slump for a few games, he generally sucked last season and this season he looks lost. Im not saying look to deal him because his value is at its lowest pt right now... But if someone blew your doors off with a Godfather offer i would have no problem trading him.

Everyone should be tradeable on the USS Clusterphuck.
He was a PPG last year. How did he suck? You make it sound like he did as bad last year as he is now.

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11-07-2013, 10:03 PM
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You fire a coach and team gets worse, time to move some players out.

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Man this **** with trade Giroux is reminding me exactly of Richards ****. This fan base has to get it's **** together.

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11-07-2013, 10:04 PM
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Trading G when value at all time low is insane. Move players that ar

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He was a PPG last year. How did he suck? You make it sound like he did as bad last year as he is now.
He was pretty damn inconsistent last year, this year he just flat out sucks.

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11-07-2013, 10:05 PM
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Trading G when value at all time low is insane. He will work this out

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11-07-2013, 10:08 PM
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Rough patch?

25 year old forwards that are paid among the very top in the league don't record 7 assists in 15 games. Please name me even one comparable player that has had a comparable stretch of games. Giroux's horrid starts have taken this team out of playoff contention two years in a row; that's not a small sample size.

It's completely possible that he turns it around, but this team shouldn't take that risk.
Crosby had 2 points in 7 games in November 2009.
Ovechkin had 7 in 15 in November and Decemeber 2011.
Henrik Sedin had 4 in 11 in Feb and March 2012.

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11-07-2013, 10:09 PM
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He was a PPG last year. How did he suck? You make it sound like he did as bad last year as he is now.
Did you watch last year?? G was not very good, and a ton was expected of him. 48gp and 13g and a minus 7. He wasnt very good, sorry. But now he looks just plain bad.

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11-07-2013, 10:10 PM
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Man this **** with trade Giroux is reminding me exactly of Richards ****. This fan base has to get it's **** together.
Yeah, and that Richards trade is going so well.

I cannot wait to move one player for two who are nearly as good combined.

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Rough patch?

25 year old forwards that are paid among the very top in the league don't record 7 assists in 15 games. Please name me even one comparable player that has had a comparable stretch of games. Giroux's horrid starts have taken this team out of playoff contention two years in a row; that's not a small sample size.

It's completely possible that he turns it around, but this team shouldn't take that risk.
Yeah its obviously the guy who finished first in team points 3 yrs in a row and is tied for first in team points in this very young season. Obviously its his fault.

Great argument bud.

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11-07-2013, 10:10 PM
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Trading G when value at all time low is insane. He will work this out
No there is something fundamentally wrong with this crew. Giroux pretty well has zero supporting cast; whether it's a short term anomaly or guys like Simmonds and Schenn have had their career years, he cannot excel on just his own talents. Right now I'd be pretty happy if he breaks 65 points but......

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Giroux left without comment after game.

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Work out a deal with Calgary for the rights to Johnny Hockey..........Local lad from South Jersey that can FINISH ! And has JUMP ! Nice piece for the future in my view. No risk, no reward .

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11-07-2013, 10:11 PM
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22 goals in 15 games. 22 goals in 902 minutes 40 seconds. That's 1 goal every 41 minutes. 1.47 goals/game. Projected 120 goals over a season.

To look at it another way, to date $60,967,073 (salary - goalies) has bought 22 goals, so each goal cost $2,771,230.60.

Pathetic is just too easy a word.

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11-07-2013, 10:12 PM
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Crosby had 2 points in 7 games in November 2009.
Ovechkin had 7 in 15 in November and Decemeber 2011.
Henrik Sedin had 4 in 11 in Feb and March 2012.
Ok, I guess those compare, but all three of those players were 1000x more proven than Giroux at this point. When Ovechkin had that slump, he already had 4 100+ point seasons on the books.

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11-07-2013, 10:14 PM
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Nobody mentioned trading for Bobby Ryan yet.

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Giroux left without comment after game.
Nothing needs to be said.

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Ok, I guess those compare, but all three of those players were 1000x more proven than Giroux at this point. When Ovechkin had that slump, he already had 4 100+ point seasons on the books.
So then, wouldn't that be more concerning?

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Yeah its the obviously the guy who finished first in team points 3 yrs in a row and is tied for first in team points in this very young season. Obviously its his fault.

Great argument bud.
Great argument there, yourself, not addressing one point I made and responding with that irrelevant crap. Yeah, Giroux is leading the team with 7 points in 15 games, must not be his fault.

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Giroux left without comment after game.
To me, that's better than the "lipstick on a pig" routine.

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So then, wouldn't that be more concerning?
Not really, it was a blip in their careers. Ovechkin had a terrible year that year by his standards and still scored 38 goals.

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11-07-2013, 10:18 PM
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Giroux left without comment after game.
It's better that way..maybe they are finally learning except the owner to just shut up and put up. Right now their words are like spitting in the wind...

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11-07-2013, 10:22 PM
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Canuck fan and also Flyers fan here.

I think its time we said goodbye to Mr Holmgrem . Then the new GM can look at the team from a point of status. Keep who he can, trade who he can and get back to Flyers hockey.

This team has too much talent to be performing like this.

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11-07-2013, 10:24 PM
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Great argument there, yourself, not addressing one point I made and responding with that irrelevant crap. Yeah, Giroux is leading the team with 7 points in 15 games, must not be his fault.
How the **** is it the statistical team leader's fault?

Does he look bad?

Absolutely.

Does the entire ****ing team look bad?

Absolutely.

Yet you have a problem with the teams overall best player for the past 3 years for a poor 15 game stretch .

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