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11-07-2013, 09:25 PM
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Look, I don't hate Giroux and I'm not trying to get him run out of town, but I'm just not going to put one player on a pedestal at the cost of the entire organization.

If Giroux is not a point per game player for the majority of his upcoming contract, it will be absolutely crippling to this franchise. I haven't seen the explosiveness from Giroux that made him that dangerous player that he was in a long time. This is not some minor slump that will go away tomorrow, the guy hasn't been the same player since the series with the Penguins.

I sincerely hope he turns it around and becomes that player again and chances are that he might. I just wouldn't bet ~12% of my team's cap space on it for the next 8 years, if I were GM.

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11-07-2013, 09:26 PM
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No one does anything out there, I don't know how you can always point the finger at Giroux.

Also, did Mez have a hattrick tonight?

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11-07-2013, 09:27 PM
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How is Giroux "untouchable"?? This isnt a slump for a few games, he generally sucked last season and this season he looks lost. Im not saying look to deal him because his value is at its lowest pt right now... But if someone blew your doors off with a Godfather offer i would have no problem trading him.

Everyone should be tradeable on the USS Clusterphuck.
Last season he started off slow and then had over a ppg pace for the last 30 or so games...

Good try there.

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11-07-2013, 09:28 PM
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No one does anything out there, I don't know how you can always point the finger at Giroux.

Also, did Mez have a hattrick tonight?
Nope, a goal & two assists on the night.

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11-07-2013, 09:30 PM
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Last season he started off slow and then had over a ppg pace for the last 30 or so games...

Good try there.
He was pretty inconsistent last year despite that.....

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11-07-2013, 09:31 PM
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Nope, a goal & two assists on the night.
Eh, not bad. Pretty good pass to Jagr. Berube should scratch Giroux for Mez.

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11-07-2013, 09:32 PM
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Look, I don't hate Giroux and I'm not trying to get him run out of town, but I'm just not going to put one player on a pedestal at the cost of the entire organization.

If Giroux is not a point per game player for the majority of his upcoming contract, it will be absolutely crippling to this franchise. I haven't seen the explosiveness from Giroux that made him that dangerous player that he was in a long time. This is not some minor slump that will go away tomorrow, the guy hasn't been the same player since the series with the Penguins.

I sincerely hope he turns it around and becomes that player again and chances are that he might. I just wouldn't bet ~12% of my team's cap space on it for the next 8 years, if I were GM.
Damn...I wish I could have said this that well...preach on!!!

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11-07-2013, 09:32 PM
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Eh, not bad. Pretty good pass to Jagr. Berube should scratch Giroux for Mez.
He should be investigated for point shaving on the second goal.

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11-07-2013, 09:33 PM
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Lol at the trade Giroux cries. how exactly does trading the most talented player make the team better? Players have down games/seasons.

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11-07-2013, 09:34 PM
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Lol at the trade Giroux cries. how exactly does trading the most talented player make the team better? Players have down games/seasons.
Besides the fact that his value is at an all time low.

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Good on Giroux for leading and doing the right thing by just refusing to give an interview.

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11-07-2013, 09:35 PM
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I'll stand by what I've said for years now, this team will never win with this fan base. One bad 10-15 game stretch means Giroux sucks now. This is Richards/Carter 2.0. You think people would have learned by now.

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11-07-2013, 09:37 PM
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Giroux is still young enough to be built around. And we KNOW he has the skill.

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11-07-2013, 09:37 PM
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Crosby had 2 points in 7 games in November 2009.
Ovechkin had 7 in 15 in November and Decemeber 2011.
Henrik Sedin had 4 in 11 in Feb and March 2012.
Evgeni Malkin hasn't scored a goal in his last 9 games and has 6 assists in that same time frame.

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No one does anything out there, I don't know how you can always point the finger at Giroux.

Also, did Mez have a hattrick tonight?
He had a goal and an assist.

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11-07-2013, 09:38 PM
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I'll stand by what I've said for years now, this team will never win with this fan base. One bad 10-15 game stretch means Giroux sucks now. This is Richards/Carter 2.0. You think people would have learned by now.
Huh? The fans have zero influence on what the FO does.

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11-07-2013, 09:39 PM
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Good on Giroux for leading and doing the right thing by just refusing to give an interview.
What do you want him to say? I think the silence says a hell of a lot more than any words.

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11-07-2013, 09:39 PM
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Giroux is still young enough to be built around. And we KNOW he has the skill.
Pretty much. Impatience is at an all time stupid level. If you're not winning now, you're a loser seems to be the mentality around here.

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11-07-2013, 09:40 PM
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How the **** is it the statistical team leader's fault?

Does he look bad?

Absolutely.

Does the entire ****ing team look bad?

Absolutely.

Yet you have a problem with the teams overall best player for the past 3 years for a poor 15 game stretch .

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Don't even bother arguing with the "Trade Giroux" [people]. They're not capable or thinking logically because they let losing get to them too much.

People constantly complain and cry about trading JVR too early but now you want to trade Giroux after 15 bad games when nobody on the entire team can hit the net? That makes sense.


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I'll stand by what I've said for years now, this team will never win with this fan base. One bad 10-15 game stretch means Giroux sucks now. This is Richards/Carter 2.0. You think people would have learned by now.
Yeah but, Giroux sucks. Trade him for Kadri, Gardiner, and some bad/decent prospects.

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11-07-2013, 09:41 PM
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Huh? The fans have zero influence on what the FO does.
I wouldn't say that. They can be pressured into change.

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Huh? The fans have zero influence on what the FO does.
I was speaking to how the fans acted after the 2010-2011 season towards Richards and Carter.

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11-07-2013, 09:41 PM
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Last season he started off slow and then had over a ppg pace for the last 30 or so games...

Good try there.
Points tell the whole story. He was awesome, he is awesome, hes a tremendous leader, trailblazing his way to victory after victory with heart and emotion.

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11-07-2013, 09:44 PM
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Points tell the whole story. He was awesome, he is awesome, hes a tremendous leader, trailblazing his way to victory after victory with heart and emotion.
One god damned player. I can't think of a single player who ever single handedly won a Stanley cup. Just stop with this nonsense.

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11-07-2013, 09:45 PM
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I wouldn't say that. They can be pressured into change.
I wouldn't say that neither, Snider is just an old fool who needs to have things shaken up constantly. It just so happens some people like that approach.

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