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11-08-2013, 06:37 PM
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Now people can hush about the Preds signing hin because Hutton sucks.

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Now people can hush about the Preds signing hin because Hutton sucks.
Bryz wasn't going to sign here anyways as he wants a shot at being a number 1 on a team not be a fill in who would then go to the bench when Rinne came back. Oilers play the flyers tomorrow. I'd love to watch that game if Bryz plays.

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11-08-2013, 06:43 PM
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Bryz wasn't going to sign here anyways as he wants a shot at being a number 1 on a team not be a fill in who would then go to the bench when Rinne came back. Oilers play the flyers tomorrow. I'd love to watch that game if Bryz plays.
I know that. That's one reason i was sick of hearinf about it.

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11-08-2013, 08:01 PM
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Both Yahoo and TSN claim negotiations were in the $3mil (prorated) range for Bryz.

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It's interesting that we had interest in Smid a couple years ago and now he gets traded for nothing significant. Wasn't the rumor Smid for Blum?

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Bryz wasn't going to sign here anyways as he wants a shot at being a number 1 on a team not be a fill in who would then go to the bench when Rinne came back. Oilers play the flyers tomorrow. I'd love to watch that game if Bryz plays.
see, I think Bryz didnt think this through, if in fact he had an offer from nashville and turned it down, unless the Oil deal is for multiple years at good money.

The Oil's D is nothing to write home about, much like Philly. Fair change that Bryz struggles there, too. If he's on a short term deal, then he hurts himself finding another job...

If he signs here, where at least in theory we play better D, and he shines, he opens himself up for a bigger deal next summer


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It's interesting that we had interest in Smid a couple years ago and now he gets traded for nothing significant. Wasn't the rumor Smid for Blum?

yes that was supposedly going to happen except Blum played so well his first couple of games up here... not sure why the Oil are dumping him unless he isnt playing up to his new 3.5 mil cap hit

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Reports are 1 year, up to $3mil annual (prorated)

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11-08-2013, 08:45 PM
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Reports are 1 year, up to $3mil annual (prorated)
yeah, thats probably more than we could or should pay...

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yeah, thats probably more than we could or should pay...
Yeah ... 5-0 Jets ... let that sit for a minute

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It's interesting that we had interest in Smid a couple years ago and now he gets traded for nothing significant. Wasn't the rumor Smid for Blum?
Edmonton has no idea what they're doing. Apparently gearing up for another lottery run. Smid's a good 2nd-3rd pairing guy, and the only player they had that resembled a defensive defenseman. Brutal.

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Well, Lottery runs worked for Pittsburgh...

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Edmonton is just bad. horrible trade and i feel bad for their fans.

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Well, Lottery runs worked for Pittsburgh...
Well, when you happen to grab two generational, Hall Of Fame-type talents, that will happen. Edmonton has 0.

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Bryz ends up at a $1.75mil salary according to the latest reports ... on a team that missed the playoffs seven straight seasons ... with defensive talent gaps.

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11-09-2013, 12:27 PM
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Bryz ends up at a $1.75mil salary according to the latest reports ... on a team that missed the playoffs seven straight seasons ... with defensive talent gaps.
So Poile didn't **** or get off the pot

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11-09-2013, 12:31 PM
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So Poile didn't **** or get off the pot
A lot of money for a guy who hasn't had a good season in a while. When Bryz is the highly coveted goalie that fills discussion it shows how little there is on the market.

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11-09-2013, 12:32 PM
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A lot of money for a guy who hasn't had a good season in a while. When Bryz is the highly coveted goalie that fills discussion it shows how little there is on the market.
When you've got "King Hut & the other kids" as your only other options, probably should've at least made an offer

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11-09-2013, 01:00 PM
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King Hut and the kids have a winning record ... Pekka and the kids are a .500 team this year. The issue is the team's string of defensive lapses that would make Georges Vezina have a bad year. Performing that way in front of a rookie who blocks pucks rather than absorb or catch them is a recipe for disaster.

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11-09-2013, 03:35 PM
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King Hut and the kids have a winning record ... Pekka and the kids are a .500 team this year. The issue is the team's string of defensive lapses that would make Georges Vezina have a bad year. Performing that way in front of a rookie who blocks pucks rather than absorb or catch them is a recipe for disaster.
I'm just going to ignore your suggestion that the Preds are better off with Hutton than Rinne. No one would consider that a plan for long term success.

So if we accept your premise that our defense is partly responsible for many goals, what is the remedy? If Trotz can't get this group to play stingy in front of a weak goaltender, no one can.

If the defense isn't going to improve, find a netminder who doesn't give up tons of rebounds. Even if Pekka is germ free in 4-6 weeks, it will take him another 3-5 weeks to get back to the level of play we all expect. You're looking at playing with AHLers till the Olympic break.

I'll bet you a bottle of Jack straight from Lynchburg that the Preds don't have a winning record at the Olympic break with the current stable goalies.

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11-09-2013, 04:00 PM
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I'm just going to ignore your suggestion that the Preds are better off with Hutton than Rinne. No one would consider that a plan for long term success.

So if we accept your premise that our defense is partly responsible for many goals, what is the remedy? If Trotz can't get this group to play stingy in front of a weak goaltender, no one can.

If the defense isn't going to improve, find a netminder who doesn't give up tons of rebounds. Even if Pekka is germ free in 4-6 weeks, it will take him another 3-5 weeks to get back to the level of play we all expect. You're looking at playing with AHLers till the Olympic break.

I'll bet you a bottle of Jack straight from Lynchburg that the Preds don't have a winning record at the Olympic break with the current stable goalies.
4-4-1 with Peks, 4-2-1 with Hutton. A statement of fact is not necessarily a suggestion of how things would play out over a full season, but feel free to read in as much as you want.

If your suggested answer is a goalie who doesn't give up rebounds, that eliminates most guys left on the free agent pile at this point. Actually, it eliminated most veterans on the market this summer as well which partially explains the decision to go with Hutton.

Even Crispy noticed the defensive breakdowns last night. What I keep noticing is poor recognition and execution in our defensive zone. Guys aren't sticking with their man, aren't recognizing how the play is developing, and the result is repeated wide open chances. Last night we left Setoguchi and Jokinen alone in the slot. Earlier in this road trip it was Morris, Muzzin or the breakdowns leading to all four Avs goals on the rush.

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Maybe we could lure Marty Biron out of retirement for a month or two. Wasn't Hasek still trying to play this year or last?

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Joel ****ing ward has 7 goals in the season.


Joel.



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He did get a hat trick in the blow out of Philly.

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Joel ****ing ward has 7 goals in the season.


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Two words.... contract year.

Same reason I expect 25 from Leggy this season.

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