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Player Comparison: Ryan Smyth vs Jeff O'Neill

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01-20-2004, 03:21 PM
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Player Comparison: Ryan Smyth vs Jeff O'Neill

Simply comparison:

Two favorites of mine, both could be seen as a "2nd tier" powerforward (if that even exists) and their numbers, age and experience is much alike (hell, they were born with only 2 days in between them), so here it goes:

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Ryan Smyth

Age: 27
Position: LW
Shoots: Left
HT: 6'1 and WT: 190
Nationality: Canadian

2003-04 Edmonton NHL 47 13 15 28 +03 50

2002-03 Edmonton NHL 66 27 34 61 +05 67
2001-02 Edmonton NHL 61 15 35 50 +07 48
2000-01 Edmonton NHL 82 31 39 70 +10 58
1999-00 Edmonton NHL 82 28 26 54 -02 58
1998-99 Edmonton NHL 71 13 18 31 +00 62
1997-98 Edmonton NHL 65 20 13 33 -24 44
1996-97 Edmonton NHL 82 39 22 61 -07 76
1995-96 Edmonton NHL 48 02 09 11 -10 28

Career ppg average of: .657
Career gpg average of: .310

A warrior that contributes in every facet of the game. Hard nosed winger who's among the best players in making the goalies life that much more miserable, underrate shot and usually gives it all he's got every single shift. He won't deke you out of your jockstrap but he beats you by his strenght and smarts. Excels his game once he reaches the playoffs and is downright a dominant force in the slot and crease. Decent defensively, is a leader on and off the ice and plays a game that goes beyond his stats could ever reflect. His only flaw is basicly his health, but that's the price you have to pay for playing the way he does..

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Jeff O'Neill:

Age: 27
Position: C/LW/RW
Shoots: Right
HT: 6'1 and HT: 195
Nationality: Canadian

2003-04 Carolina NHL 46 08 17 25 -9 44

2002-03 Carolina NHL 82 30 31 61 -21 38
2001-02 Carolina NHL 76 31 33 64 -05 63
2000-01 Carolina NHL 82 41 26 67 -18 106
1999-00 Carolina NHL 80 25 38 63 -09 72
1998-99 Carolina NHL 75 16 15 31 +03 66
1997-98 Carolina NHL 74 19 20 39 -08 67
1996-97 Hartford NHL 72 14 16 30 -24 40
1995-96 Hartford NHL 65 08 19 27 -03 40

Career ppg average: .624
Career gpg average: .294

Great winger (or center) that's hard to knock off the puck. He's a world class sniper with a physical game to boot. Has faced off vs the opposition's top units every single shift and yet is still able to be a consistant 30 goal scorer. Rugged winger loves to pick the spots from the outside and the combination of his physical strenght and speed makes him a dangerous threat. Biggest con is his inconsistent use of his body, which tends him to float, especially when he's not scoring. Same can be said about his defensive game, it is not good, but not bad either. His agressivenes seems to regress as well, he hasn't been as intmidating as he was a few years ago, still, he's a world class player. A vocal leader that has so much more potential than he has shown in Carolina IMO..

Red: indicates current season
Blue: indicates career numbers

Coincidently, both are enjoying a sub-par season which has led to unpleased fans and some trade speculations. Either way, they both posses the same attributes and they have the stats and history to show for it, however, they do play different types of games.

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I'll take Ryan Smyth. not sure why. i wish he'd someday return to the 39-goal level again, but that could be a big dream. i think Ryan is a gutsier player.

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I woul take Smyth hands down. His PPG is better, his linematers are worse, better grinder.

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I'd take Ryan Smyth. He's improved his game over the last few years and he's a more physical and defensive player than O'Neill is.

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I'd take Smyth over O'Neill. Put Smyth within armslength of the Cup and he will walk through fire.

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Ryan Smyth. He shows up every shift, which I don't see O'Neill do all the time. Plus, Smyth is the better passer and playmaker and a harder-nosed player. No knock on O'Neill, I'd just take Smyth first.

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I woul take Smyth hands down. His PPG is better, his linematers are worse, better grinder.
Not sure about his linemates though, didn't he have the likes of Weight, Comrie, Carter and York centering him? With talents such as Guerin and now Hemsky on his right? O'Neill OTOH, plays with a washed up Francis and that's it..

That said, I'm suprised everyone prefers Smyth this easily..

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Smyth played his best when he was with Doug Weight...but he's also capable of carrying his linemates (like with Hemsky towards the end of last season)

Not to mention both O'Neil and Smyth have sported a mullet at some point of their career.

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Not sure about his linemates though, didn't he have the likes of Weight, Comrie, Carter and York centering him? With talents such as Guerin and now Hemsky on his right? O'Neill OTOH, plays with a washed up Francis and that's it..

That said, I'm suprised everyone prefers Smyth this easily..
I think it's pretty damn close. However Smyth brings alot more intangibles. Work Eithic, heart and leadership.

My dream would be to have Smyth and O'Neill on the same line. Imagine if the Oil hadn't botched that draft so badly, they had the 4th and 6th overall picks.

4. Edmonton selects Jason Bonsignore
5. Carolina selects Jeff O'Neill
6. Edmonton select Ryan Smyth

Ah well at least they got Smyth

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