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11-02-2013, 06:45 PM
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Andreoff scores with an assist from Pearson.
At the game.. Good first period. Monarchs dominated the first 14 minutes or so. Goal from Andreoff, Pearson with a nice cross ice pass from the top of the right circle after a nice cross ice feed from Kozun creating the open passing lane from Pearson to Andreoff. Nice play all around.

It will be interesting to see the impact and opportunity created by Toffoli and Vey going up. Other guys will see their ice time and role increase substantially. I would expect both Pearson and Kozun to be up near the top of the AHL scoring race pretty shortly here. They are both already in the top 15 or so. Weal should also see a boost in individual statistics.

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11-07-2013, 05:23 AM
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It looks like Deslauries is playing a lot of wing.

I ask anybody who would know...
Is he playing wing exclusively now?

If so,
8 pts (4G/4A) ain't a bad start at a new position.
There may be hope for this kid yet.
Especially at LW, where we need skill, size and speed.

Just 1 more question/issue with Deslauries--
He is listed at 230 lbs.

Uh...
that's rather a lot for a 6'1" guy, isn't it?

Wouldn't he be quicker at say, 215 or 220?
Just askin'.

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11-07-2013, 08:00 AM
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It looks like Deslauries is playing a lot of wing.

I ask anybody who would know...
Is he playing wing exclusively now?

If so,
8 pts (4G/4A) ain't a bad start at a new position.
There may be hope for this kid yet.
Especially at LW, where we need skill, size and speed.

Just 1 more question/issue with Deslauries--
He is listed at 230 lbs.

Uh...
that's rather a lot for a 6'1" guy, isn't it?
Wouldn't he be quicker at say, 215 or 220?
Just askin'.
It depends on what his body fat % is and how much of his weight is lean tissue. It's not much bigger than say Nathan Horton, Todd Bertuzzi, or Anthony and Chris Stewart are. All of them are right around 6'1" - 6'4" and 220 - 240lbs. Plus keep in mind that alot of times younger players are actually heavier before they reach the NHL because they think any weight is good wieght, and once they turn pro they start eating better and increase lean mass, and decrease body fat. He could be heavy and need to lose some weight or he could simply be built like a RB in football. A lot of those guys are right around 6'0" and about 210 and they have explosive speed in spades. Really tough to say with out more info than simply a height and weight. Heck 6'1" 230 is considered "obese" on the BMI chart we use at work... He certainly isn't that.


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11-07-2013, 12:03 PM
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It looks like Deslauries is playing a lot of wing.

I ask anybody who would know...
Is he playing wing exclusively now?

If so,
8 pts (4G/4A) ain't a bad start at a new position.
There may be hope for this kid yet.
Especially at LW, where we need skill, size and speed.

Just 1 more question/issue with Deslauries--
He is listed at 230 lbs.

Uh...
that's rather a lot for a 6'1" guy, isn't it?

Wouldn't he be quicker at say, 215 or 220?
Just askin'.
Bufygulen or however you spell it, hit 300 pounds last year. 300. That's insane.
He is now a 'leaner' 260 and he moves rather well. I know he's now a defenseman, but was 250+ playing forward.

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11-07-2013, 12:06 PM
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Nick is FAR from fat.

He's actually not that big in person w/o gear on.

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11-07-2013, 12:51 PM
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It looks like Deslauries is playing a lot of wing.

I ask anybody who would know...
Is he playing wing exclusively now?

If so,
8 pts (4G/4A) ain't a bad start at a new position.
There may be hope for this kid yet.
Especially at LW, where we need skill, size and speed.

Just 1 more question/issue with Deslauries--
He is listed at 230 lbs.

Uh...
that's rather a lot for a 6'1" guy, isn't it?

Wouldn't he be quicker at say, 215 or 220?
Just askin'.
Jack Johnson is listed at 6' 1" 238.
http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471677

I'd say he's a pretty quick skater.

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11-09-2013, 12:19 PM
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ND with 9 pts in 13 games thus far...not too bad imo. I haven't seen much of ND, but I'm thinking he's a better skating version of King with more grit and likes to bang.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see ND get the call before Pearson. Wouldn't mind either one though. Either one's a better option than Moulson atm.

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11-09-2013, 02:11 PM
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I like ND also but watching King games this year, the team seems to be too slow.

I liked Vey a lot in this first game and he's got wheels.

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11-09-2013, 02:19 PM
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I like ND also but watching King games this year, the team seems to be too slow.

I liked Vey a lot in this first game and he's got wheels.
Nick is a great skater. Why would you say that you like him but the team is too slow? He would add speed to the team.

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11-09-2013, 06:07 PM
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It looks like Deslauries is playing a lot of wing.

I ask anybody who would know...
Is he playing wing exclusively now?

If so,
8 pts (4G/4A) ain't a bad start at a new position.
There may be hope for this kid yet.
Especially at LW, where we need skill, size and speed.

Just 1 more question/issue with Deslauries--
He is listed at 230 lbs.

Uh...
that's rather a lot for a 6'1" guy, isn't it?

Wouldn't he be quicker at say, 215 or 220?
Just askin'.
Unless he is absolutely jacked the he is overweight. For a comparison I am 6' 218 professional body builder. I am 8% body fat currently. If he had the same amount of muscle mass as me, and no athlete in that kind of sport does he would be 14.5 % BF. Now, if he has above average lean body mass he would be closer to 18% body fat. A good body fat for a burst sport would be 12%. 18% Body fat is very typical for a man and can often look pretty good with the amount of muscle he likely has.

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11-09-2013, 07:35 PM
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Wow! What a finish!

Brian O'Neill scores a short-handed breakaway goal with 14 seconds left and the Monarchs beat the Ice Caps 3-2!!

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11-09-2013, 07:41 PM
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O'Neill has been fantastic all year. That 3rd line has been so good giving Morris the ability to roll 3 lines. Love it.

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11-09-2013, 07:45 PM
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ND did say he weighs 210 lbs and not 230 lbs, in an interview during camp.

On a side note, Weal has 14 pts in 14 games. Keep it going Jordan!!!

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Nick is a great skater. Why would you say that you like him but the team is too slow? He would add speed to the team.
I assumed he would be too slow; made assumption on size/weight.

I remember him being an awesome skater when drafted but he wasn't that heavy than.

Haven't watched a monarchs game this year either.

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11-09-2013, 07:48 PM
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Linden Vey looks very good so far (I know it's one game). Kid can skate.

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I assumed he would be too slow; made assumption on size/weight.

I remember him being an awesome skater when drafted but he wasn't that heavy than.

Haven't watched a monarchs game this year either.
He's a very good skater. Honestly I think he's going to be an even better LW than he would have been a defenseman. He hits EVERYTHING and throws hard, hard hits regularly. You combine that with actual hands and scoring ability and you've got a very good prospect.

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He's a very good skater. Honestly I think he's going to be an even better LW than he would have been a defenseman. He hits EVERYTHING and throws hard, hard hits regularly. You combine that with actual hands and scoring ability and you've got a very good prospect.
So he's my kind of guy!

I always liked him and hoped he'd make it. He plays with big balls and I love that.

He was drafted as a mobile offensive defenseman. Now, he's a third line tough guy forward. Funny how things turn out.

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11-09-2013, 08:54 PM
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how about a short handed GWG for Brian O'Neill with 13 seconds left to win the game for Manchester.
nice bounce back win after getting thumped Friday night.

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So he's my kind of guy!

I always liked him and hoped he'd make it. He plays with big balls and I love that.

He was drafted as a mobile offensive defenseman. Now, he's a third line tough guy forward. Funny how things turn out.
That sounds sweet to my ears.
We may have finally hit on the way to maximize this guy's considerable talents.

If he continues to grow in effectiveness
at the FW position, then in another season, maybe two,
he could be a serious candidate for the big club.

A 2nd/3rd-line, physical, 2-way FW with speed and size?
What's not to like?

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Appreciate extra in sight about his playing style on wing and what kind of forward he looks like. Thanks.

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What are your guys' thoughts on Martin Jones? He's been getting the slow cooking treatment that has proven to be so effective for developing goalies in the past and he looks to be one of the best goalies in the AHL this year.

Do you see him being Quick's backup next season? If he is, hopefully he re-signs again and the Kings show case him to they can potentially get something good for him, seeing as how he likely won't be taking Quick's job any time soon.

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Just curious about Andrew Campbell.

If we were to call him up to the big club, could he hang?
Is he underrated? Or is he strictly a minor-leaguer?

Thanks for any response.

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What are your guys' thoughts on Martin Jones? He's been getting the slow cooking treatment that has proven to be so effective for developing goalies in the past and he looks to be one of the best goalies in the AHL this year.

Do you see him being Quick's backup next season? If he is, hopefully he re-signs again and the Kings show case him to they can potentially get something good for him, seeing as how he likely won't be taking Quick's job any time soon.
Taken the next step. Putting it all together. Goalies progress slower. Writing Jones off means you're an idiot. Big goalie, fundamentally sound, and very calm in the net.

I'm a goalie myself and I critique the position very hard. He NEEDS to be more aggressive. Having your toes in the middle of the crease doesn't work. My rule of thumb was heels at the top of the crease. Cut down the angle and shooters see zero net. That's his only real flaw.

He'll most certainly challenge Scrivens next year.

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Just curious about Andrew Campbell.

If we were to call him up to the big club, could he hang?
Is he underrated? Or is he strictly a minor-leaguer?

Thanks for any response.
Hard to say. He's a rock at the AHL level and I'd certainly rather see him over Schultz but until he plays a game, I just can't tell with him. He's a guy you don't notice all game and that's the biggest compliment I can give a defensive defenseman. But who knows how he does vs a faster speed at the NHL level.

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Taken the next step. Putting it all together. Goalies progress slower. Writing Jones off means you're an idiot. Big goalie, fundamentally sound, and very calm in the net.

I'm a goalie myself and I critique the position very hard. He NEEDS to be more aggressive. Having your toes in the middle of the crease doesn't work. My rule of thumb was heels at the top of the crease. Cut down the angle and shooters see zero net. That's his only real flaw.
The pleasures of being a tall goalie-you can sometimes play that deep without getting in trouble since you're not cutting down the angle as much as you can(something I don't have the ability to).

Definitely agree that he needs to be out that far, haven't watched him play but I'll take your word for it.

How is his lateral movement? Sometimes goalies like to compensate for some slow pushes by playing deep so they can get from A to B quicker as its shorter distance compared to a guy like Quick.

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The pleasures of being a tall goalie-you can sometimes play that deep without getting in trouble since you're not cutting down the angle as much as you can(something I don't have the ability to).

Definitely agree that he needs to be out that far, haven't watched him play but I'll take your word for it.

How is his lateral movement? Sometimes goalies like to compensate for some slow pushes by playing deep so they can get from A to B quicker as its shorter distance compared to a guy like Quick.
Lateral movement = Bernier. Cerebral. Accurate. Great positioning. Stays tall. Love it. I understand him being big and not needing to cut the angle as much but that's just all the more reason TO do it. With his size, if he cuts down the angle, no one will be able to see anything behind him. It's not even necessarily being aggressive but moreso not playing as deep as he does.

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