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11-11-2013, 10:11 AM
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OT: Atlanta Braves moving to new Stadium in 2017

They moved into Turner Field in 1997, pretty stunning. The most interesting part was the fact there was NO rumor, no talk, no buzz. Nothing,.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baseb...in-cobb/nbpNQ/

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Atlanta outdoing itself....

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How can a 16 yr old stadium need $150 million in infrastructure work??

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You know you're getting old when you can remember a Major League Baseball team playing in the ballpark before the one they're about to move out of.

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Companion article: Stadium deals seem more important than product

To quote:

"The lack of development is why the Braves want out. How do you think they felt when city officials started making (empty) promises to the Falcons and Atlanta residents about mixed used development and new restaurants around the proposed football stadium, despite the fact the area surrounding the baseball stadium remains an open sore?

Because it's clear what matters most to a sports franchise now is a new building. Let everybody else figure out the problems associated with it."

Source: http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/jeff-schu...-deal-prodict/

Hmmm, sounds very familiar...

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Absoloutley stunning that we're now seeing stadiums that were built in the 90's now looking at being replaced. Second one for Atlanta alone.

Also, the suburban location seems to buck the trend of the newer ballbarks in the last 25 years being built downtown.

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It is pretty out of the blue. I know that had troubles filling the stadium during the regular season, but it seems pretty early to leave already.

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Its amazing that Tropicana Field in Tampa will be outliving a stadium built in the 90s to me personally.

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Its amazing that Tropicana Field in Tampa will be outliving a stadium built in the 90s to me personally.
Tropicana opened in the 90's too though (finished in 1990). Was built in the late 80's but it's not that much older than Turner Field.

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Also doesn't hurt that St. Pete did their due diligence and put a damn near ironclad lease in their agreement with the team.

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What an absolute waste.

Take a look at pictures of Turner Field. The place is spick and span almost-brand-new looking.... What is the problem???

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What an absolute waste.

Take a look at pictures of Turner Field. The place is spick and span almost-brand-new looking.... What is the problem???
They don't control it.

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They don't control it.
I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the situation, are you saying the Braves don't own Turner Field, or they don't own the immediate surrounding area, or something else?

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I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the situation, are you saying the Braves don't own Turner Field, or they don't own the immediate surrounding area, or something else?
They don't control the stadium.

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Such a waste. Moving to the suburbs for an 81 game schedule should have a negative effect on attendance, as well.

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What an absolute waste.

Take a look at pictures of Turner Field. The place is spick and span almost-brand-new looking.... What is the problem???
A lot of the problem is the surrounding area, there's nothing really around it (walking distance) and it's a massive pain to get into and out of. From what I understand the team was promised a lot from the city about projects to make the area a whole lot better, which was never followed through on.

Odd timing, in that it's so close to the building of the last building but the options were either pay a lot of money to upgrade Turner Field (infrastructure, not fan experience) and sign another long term lease or leave after 20 years. The optics are pretty bad. Turner Field was not built for baseball though, it was built for the Olympics and converted to baseball. It's too big, awkwardly placed and IMO the viewing angles weren't great. With that said, still VERY surprising.

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Such a waste. Moving to the suburbs for an 81 game schedule should have a negative effect on attendance, as well.
Actually, it could help. From everything I've heard, it's an absolute mess to get into Turner Field for an evening game. Having it a a more convenient location for the north suburbs and adjacent to major roads might help their nightly draw.

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Such a waste. Moving to the suburbs for an 81 game schedule should have a negative effect on attendance, as well.
Here's a map of the 2012 Braves ticket purchasers,



It's about 12 miles from Turner Field and if anything it's close to the meat of their fanbase.

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In a way, just shows again how wasteful the "legacy" of thr Olympics can be.

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Here's a map of the 2012 Braves ticket purchasers,



It's about 12 miles from Turner Field and if anything it's close to the meat of their fanbase.
Now that is one intense infograph, damn.

I figured most of the fans would be to the north, but it's still about the spoke and hub aspect of a downtown stadium/arena. Almost no one that goes to the games lives near the Penguins (or Pirates or Steelers for that matter), but it's central location means you don't have large pockets of the fan base stuck with a 2 hour drive on weeknights to get to the games. Atlanta should be able to handle this much better than Tampa, as they have an established fanbase and is just a much larger area in general, but the Rays attendance issues attracting fans from Tampa itself always has me worrying about suburban stadiums (and the obvious issues associated with suburban hockey arenas).


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In a way, just shows again how wasteful the "legacy" of thr Olympics can be.
Very much so, especially if you have to build a primary venue for them.

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Here's a map of the 2012 Braves ticket purchasers,



It's about 12 miles from Turner Field and if anything it's close to the meat of their fanbase.
Quality post. We'll done, good sir.

Just from that map alone, obviously looks like at least a good idea for the team.

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It's about 12 miles from Turner Field and if anything it's close to the meat of their fanbase.
interesting map. where did it come from? and upon what is it based? season ticket holder addresses? ticketmaster orders? walkups?

it clearly supports the idea that the new stadium would be more centralized for those who attend, but I have to wonder if perhaps it is a little too supportive and perhaps someone has made it so.

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interesting map. where did it come from? and upon what is it based? season ticket holder addresses? ticketmaster orders? walkups?

it clearly supports the idea that the new stadium would be more centralized for those who attend, but I have to wonder if perhaps it is a little too supportive and perhaps someone has made it so.
It was from deadspin's page on the move. Either way though, the Braves aren't stupid. Seems unlikely they'd move away from where they feel their fanbase is. I don't see the incentive to lie. Cobb County is one of the absolute hotbeds for minor league baseball in all of the US. Seems like there's more money in and around that area too.

I wouldn't be happy as a taxpayer in Cobb County but the Braves definitely feel the meat of their fan base is there and I have been to Turner Field once and the stadium looked quite nice but my experience coming/going was quite bad.

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They don't control the stadium.
What are you talking about? They are the stadium operator, they control the rights to operate the stadium...

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It'll be nice to see a new stadium, and the team should be better supported there. It does seem like a real waste to ditch Turner Field, though. It's a great ballpark. Oh well. I guess Philips should follow suit within the next few years? Getting pretty old by Atlanta standards.

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