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11-10-2013, 12:24 AM
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Bryz ends up at a $1.75mil salary according to the latest reports ... on a team that missed the playoffs seven straight seasons ... with defensive talent gaps.
I'm not exactly sure where we are in regards to the cap but I think that would have been a good investment.

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11-10-2013, 07:19 AM
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Heck just wait for them to waive Dubnyk, he's far better than Hutton.

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11-10-2013, 08:06 AM
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Heck just wait for them to waive Dubnyk, he's far better than Hutton.
not a chance. if we arent willing to pay 1.75 for Bryz there is no way we pay 3.5 mil for the guy Bryz is replacing

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11-10-2013, 10:17 AM
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Well, at least Kings-Canucks wasn't a three point game last night, other than that ... blech

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11-10-2013, 10:43 AM
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4-4-1 with Peks, 4-2-1 with Hutton. A statement of fact is not necessarily a suggestion of how things would play out over a full season, but feel free to read in as much as you want.

If your suggested answer is a goalie who doesn't give up rebounds, that eliminates most guys left on the free agent pile at this point. Actually, it eliminated most veterans on the market this summer as well which partially explains the decision to go with Hutton.

Even Crispy noticed the defensive breakdowns last night. What I keep noticing is poor recognition and execution in our defensive zone. Guys aren't sticking with their man, aren't recognizing how the play is developing, and the result is repeated wide open chances. Last night we left Setoguchi and Jokinen alone in the slot. Earlier in this road trip it was Morris, Muzzin or the breakdowns leading to all four Avs goals on the rush.
You are stating "facts" to indicate something. You are attempting to lead a discussion. To deny that is silly.

Pekka Rinne is in a completely different class than Carter Hutton. To even postulate that this is not true, is outlandish. To postulate that this team is better or has been better with Hutton in net, is equally outlandish.

Hutton has poor rebound control. A poor glove hand. Mediocre positioning. Bad puck handling. He also has not shown the ability to make ANY big saves which is why we are getting crushed in GAA and save percentage.

The team made defensive lapses and played a poor game in Winipeg - I agree. However, this hasn't been the case in many of the other games. If every mistake costs you a goal, then your goalie is breaking your back. At some point, a goalie has to make the big save, and the offense has to be able to have reassurances that they can attack in the offensive zone. I would further put forth that Hutton has let in several very weak goals on top of being unable to make the crucial big save.

I know you know all of this, and I think you agree with probably every point I am making. I get that you are trying to sell that Hutton isn't as bad as some make him out to be, and that we probably lose that game irregardless of who is in net. You are probably right. But, I truly believe this team wins the Coyotes game, and probably even scores a goal or competes differently in the WPG game with Rinne in net. We just are a better, more confident team. Teams play us differently and attack us differently.

Now, with that off the table, I am not sold on the system or construction of this team. I think this is Trotz and Poile's master team, but I think it is an improperly built roster. Time will tell, and I will await the results likely in the playoffs.

My opinion: We desperately need the young forwards to continue to develop. We desperately need Legwand to continue his resurgence in a true offensive role. We need the dynamic PP we have had at times. Otherwise, the transitional game, offensive zone play, and breakout game continues to be mind-numbingly bad from a talent to performance or even executional standpoint.

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11-10-2013, 12:38 PM
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It's also painfully obvious (pardon the pun) that Pekka was not 100% in those nine games. So suggesting that Hutton is better because he has a 4-2-1 record is like suggesting I'm a better goaltender than, say, Kevin Klein.

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11-10-2013, 02:28 PM
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My opinion: We desperately need the young forwards to continue to develop. We desperately need Legwand to continue his resurgence in a true offensive role. We need the dynamic PP we have had at times. Otherwise, the transitional game, offensive zone play, and breakout game continues to be mind-numbingly bad from a talent to performance or even executional standpoint.
You left out routinely making mistakes during line changes (directly factored into defensive lapses on two Phoenix goals) and inexcusable blown assignments in the defensive zone.

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11-10-2013, 05:59 PM
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Breakouts and cycling and puck possession have been the strongest I've seen from the this franchise.

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11-12-2013, 02:08 PM
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Great picture, just great


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11-12-2013, 04:57 PM
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So Yakupov is clearly upset with lack of playing time. Let's make a move.

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11-12-2013, 05:58 PM
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I'm about at the point where I'm in favor of making some changes

To EDM: Wilson, Josi

To Nash: Eberle, Gagner


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11-12-2013, 06:06 PM
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I'm about at the point where I'm in favor of making some changes

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no thanks

try for yakupov.. wants out, could be had cheaper and the talent is there

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11-12-2013, 06:23 PM
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Poile is not going to take a chance on a prima donna Russian. Let him scamper back to the KHL.

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11-13-2013, 02:40 PM
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OTF and others reporting that Fenton is a likely front-runner for the BUF GM job. Hope not; would like him to succeed Poile one day.

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OTF and others reporting that Fenton is a likely front-runner for the BUF GM job. Hope not; would like him to succeed Poile one day.
Guess we will find out soon how much the Preds value him and if they are fed up with Trotz and Poile.

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11-13-2013, 03:00 PM
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and others...Is there a non-Nashville link to this this? Or is it just our band of merry men scribes?

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11-13-2013, 03:38 PM
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I really hope we can hang on to Fenton...

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11-13-2013, 03:48 PM
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Fenton has not been impressed with what's going on. Heard it through others what he was thought about the last few years. Sounds like a guy with a different philosophy than what we currently have. Hope we keep him

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11-13-2013, 05:06 PM
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Truthfully, I would much rather keep Fenton.

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11-14-2013, 10:12 AM
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Looks like Columbus is not the new destination city after all. Gaborik not going to resign and Jackets looking to move him at deadline or sooner...

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11-14-2013, 11:00 AM
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Looks like Columbus is not the new destination city after all. Gaborik not going to resign and Jackets looking to move him at deadline or sooner...
Poile if he wants to get that dynamic forward, this trade needs to be made and soon

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11-14-2013, 02:29 PM
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Patrick Eaves on waivers. Reminds me how stupid it was to sign Hendricks and Nystrom when we could have gotten someone like him a lot cheaper.

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11-14-2013, 02:57 PM
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Poile if he wants to get that dynamic forward, this trade needs to be made and soon
We really aren't in a position to be trading for pending UFAs. If we do, it will be total desperation. Also Gaborik seems to be in decline now anyways.

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11-14-2013, 03:10 PM
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Trading for Gaborik and having him walk in the off-season would be a disaster of massive proportions.

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