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11-15-2013, 03:38 PM
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Have to imagine the Rangers would package him with someone else to get a bigger return. Perhaps an unhappy forward in need of a change of scenery?

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Demers has come up on our boards too. I'd be interested. The Sharks would have to add, though. Something involved DZ, Demers and Nieto?
Nieto has been seriously overshadowed by Hertl, but he's been excellent, especially since he was projected to be in the AHL. It'd hurt to lose him PLUS Demers...

Demers and Nieto For Del Zotto and 2nd?

Honestly not sure I'm in love with that myself...

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Come on man, I'm a Caps fan and I know NOBODY has an interest in Brooks Laich. And they'd only have interest in Troy Brouwer if he was part of a larger package.
Can't blame me for trying.

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Why would the Caps want Del Zotto when they already have the king of flaky offensive D-men in Green?
Because he's better than anyone we have on the left side not named Alzner. I also think he'd fit in nicely in Oates' system.

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Del Zotto and NYR 2014 1st

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Hemsky (50%), Petry, and EDM 2014 1st

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Hopefully Montreal stays away from Sather. Unless it's DD for MDZ

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Del Zotto and NYR 2014 1st

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Petry > Del Zotto

Easy no for the Oilers.

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My impression has always been that the GMs have a fraternity to keep a lid on trade talks that go on throughout the year..

So if Del Zotto's name finally surfaces in the media it means hes been shopped so heavily that secondary people know about it and leaked it to the press.

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Del Zotto and NYR 2014 1st

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Hemsky (50%), Petry, and EDM 2014 1st
Don't you think the Oilers should throw in a sweetener too? LOL.

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I like Brouwer, but I'd want more for MDZ.

I also like Urbom as well.
Urbom has been a great pick up for us. Haven't seen the Devils this year yet, but they must be stacked at D if they waived Urbom. He could certainly develop into a top 4 LD.

What would we add along with Brouwer for DZ?

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If Del Zotto is available I'm sure the Oilers are keenly interested, although I don't think they should be, the Oilers need some defenseman who both excel at defending and are excellent at moving the puck up the ice.

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Petry > Del Zotto

Easy no for the Oilers.
I disagree. Del Zotto puts up better offensive numbers, has more experience, and is more consistent defensively.

But these 2 guys aren't worth debating.

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Del Zotto and NYR 2014 1st

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Wut. The Oilers pick is better than the Rangers pick, the Oilers are offering up the more valuable defenseman, and you want Hemsky at half price too?

MDZ is pretty overrated by some here. He's going to be healthy scratched tomorrow, his value isn't ridiculously high.

I'd still like to trade for him...any use for a couple of prospects, that seems to be the market value our dumb GM has for bottom 4 d-men.

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Milan Michalek?

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The issue with Del Zotto is he plays the same side as McDonagh and Staal. The Rangers tried Del Zotto on the right side to get him more ice time but has struggled on the right side. In 09-10,DZ broke into the NHL as a 19 year old. McDonagh was at Wisconsin. In 10-11,DZ struggled and was assigned to the AHL. The Rangers brought up McDonagh from the AHL. DZ broke his finger playing in the AHL. In 11-12,Staal missed the first 3 months of the season with the concussion. McDonagh and DZ flourished with more responsibility. Having all 3 players in the line-up at the same time doesn't work. They all play the same side.

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Nieto has been seriously overshadowed by Hertl, but he's been excellent, especially since he was projected to be in the AHL. It'd hurt to lose him PLUS Demers...

Demers and Nieto For Del Zotto and 2nd?

Honestly not sure I'm in love with that myself...
That's kinda the deal I had in mind.

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If Del Zotto is available I'm sure the Oilers are keenly interested, although I don't think they should be, the Oilers need some defenseman who both excel at defending and are excellent at moving the puck up the ice.
But he IS excellent at moving the puck up the ice... for the opposition... when he takes a point shot directly at a defender's shin pads... or blasts one wide of the net.

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Milan Michalek?
A rental. He can walk at the end of the season. The Rangers have enough unrestricted free agents this summer.

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Wut. The Oilers pick is better than the Rangers pick, the Oilers are offering up the more valuable defenseman, and you want Hemsky at half price too?

MDZ is pretty overrated by some here. He's going to be healthy scratched tomorrow, his value isn't ridiculously high.

I'd still like to trade for him...any use for a couple of prospects, that seems to be the market value our dumb GM has for bottom 4 d-men.
Says the guy that will accept nothing in the Yakupov trade thread and his value remains quite high there.

MDZ's value is pretty low, Wings don't really have much to go after him although I would be interested.

I will agree with Oilers fans that Petry for MDZ right not is a negative move, though that doesn't mean front offices don't have a different take on their value.

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Have to imagine the Rangers would package him with someone else to get a bigger return. Perhaps an unhappy forward in need of a change of scenery?
The Rangers don't have much cap space. DZ has a $2.55M cap hit.

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Ranger fans, is MDZ any good defensively? Be honest.

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Says the guy that will accept nothing in the Yakupov trade thread and his value remains quite high there.

MDZ's value is pretty low, Wings don't really have much to go after him although I would be interested.

I will agree with Oilers fans that Petry for MDZ right not is a negative move, though that doesn't mean front offices don't have a different take on their value.
Well, not to take this too far off topic, but 1) the fact that Oil fans are even considering Yak being moved shows a drop in value. He was untouchable a few months ago. It just hasn't dropped to the point where our team is trying to unload him. Big difference. 2) MDZ has been around a lot longer than Yak, and if he still can't hold his spot, it hurts his value. A sophomore being healthy scratched is far less of a concern. 3) The Oilers aren't shopping Yak, the Rangers apparently are shopping MDZ. The team shopping a guy often (not always, but often) gets the lesser end of the stick.

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Ranger fans, is MDZ any good defensively? Be honest.
The dishonesty would come from a bunch of Rangers fans who would claim he's awful defensively. He's average to slightly-above.

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Wut. The Oilers pick is better than the Rangers pick, the Oilers are offering up the more valuable defenseman, and you want Hemsky at half price too?

MDZ is pretty overrated by some here. He's going to be healthy scratched tomorrow, his value isn't ridiculously high.

I'd still like to trade for him...any use for a couple of prospects, that seems to be the market value our dumb GM has for bottom 4 d-men.
Del Zotto is much more valuable than Petry. If anything, he's being underrated by posters here - he's been undervalued by Rangers fans for a long time because he is behind Staal and McD on the depth chart. When forced into a top role MDZ played hockey that Jeff Petry will never dream of playing.

Del Zotto is the best player in this deal. Hemsky and Petry have the worst +/- on the Oilers... other than Yakupov. Of course the deal I proposed favors the Rangers, it's a starting point. Propose a counter offer if you'd like, but if you honestly think Petry has more value than MDZ, I'd rather you didn't.

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I'd love for the Lightning to get involved. Our defense is much improved but we could use another D, especially with Salo hurt and a UFA at seasons end. Plus he's best friends with Stamkos.

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Urbom has been a great pick up for us. Haven't seen the Devils this year yet, but they must be stacked at D if they waived Urbom. He could certainly develop into a top 4 LD.

What would we add along with Brouwer for DZ?
Del Zotto is not the type of defenseman the Caps need.

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