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11-15-2013, 07:04 PM
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You don't get a proven NHL goal scorer for nothing either.
True, but rentals just don't return that. They don't return a Cowen or a Ceci

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You don't get a proven NHL goal scorer for nothing either.
Cammy isn't worth Ceci +. If anything it should be Cammy + mid pick for Ceci.

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You don't get a proven NHL goal scorer for nothing either.
Cammalleri is the kind of guy that gets a pick at this point IMO. Not a <25 defenseman that the team has committed to developing and has been on an NHL roster for a while.

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True, but rentals just don't return that. They don't return a Cowen or a Ceci
Brendan Morrow did last year but it is rare.

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Brendan Morrow did last year but it is rare.
You're vastly overrating how good Joe Morrow was at the time or vastly underrating Ceci and Cowen. Probably both

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You don't get a proven NHL goal scorer for nothing either.
Happy to deal Ceci. Someone better than Cammy has to be coming back.

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Cammy isn't worth Ceci +. If anything it should be Cammy + mid pick for Ceci.
Im really scratching my head that we need to add a pick for ceci yet we didn't need to for Cowan???

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Happy to deal Ceci. Someone better than Cammy has to be coming back.
Cammy + Backlund for Ceci + Stone

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Bouchard for Matt Kassian
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Im really scratching my head that we need to add a pick for ceci yet we didn't need to for Cowan???
…You would

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OK flames fans, stop. You're not getting a young stud D for an overpaid aging winger. Just no
Your offers have been just as bad, or worse. Cammy + Smid + 1st for Cowen and MM? Yeah right.

Calgary downgrades on offence, downgrades temporarily on D AND gives up a very valuable 1st rounder?

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Jeff Cowan isn't around any more.

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Cammy + Backlund for Ceci + Stone
Not any better. Backlund would most likely be on our 3rd line. Stone is a very good prospect. Think Ceci for a Glencross type deal.

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Your offers have been just as bad, or worse. Cammy + Smid + 1st for Cowen and MM? Yeah right.

Calgary downgrades on offence, downgrades temporarily on D AND gives up a very valuable 1st rounder?
Sens have no reason to deal Cowen for two old farts, one of which was traded for almost nothing, the other of which is a rental. Hence, the pick. Doesn't mean it's fair but that's what the Sens would want

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You're vastly overrating how good Joe Morrow was at the time or vastly underrating Ceci and Cowen. Probably both
I think Ceci is better than Morrow for sure but so is Cammy compared to Morrow.

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Im really scratching my head that we need to add a pick for ceci yet we didn't need to for Cowan???
We probably would but I was also offering a replacement for Cowen and I was really just offering the basis for a deal and try and find out how much farther we would have to go.

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Not any better. Think Ceci for a Glencross type deal.
Oh your adding Zibanejad to the deal then?

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Sens have no reason reason to deal Cowen for two old farts, one of which was traded for almost nothing, the other of which is a rental. Hence, the pick. Doesn't mean it's fair but that's what the Sens would want
Smid is 27

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Sens have no reason reason to deal Cowen for two old farts, one of which was traded for almost nothing, the other of which is a rental. Hence, the pick. Doesn't mean it's fair but that's what the Sens would want
Only on HF does a 31 year old get called an old fart

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Smid is 27
and was traded for almost nothing. Hardly much value

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Only on HF does a 31 year old get called an old fart
a rental old fart

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Oh your adding Zibanejad to the deal then?
Read my edited comment. Cammy, especially at his cap, won't be receiving a high end defensive prospect.

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Read my edited comment. Cammy, especially at his cap, won't be receiving a high end defensive prospect.
OK and Ceci sure as **** doesn't get you Glencross

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OK and Ceci sure as **** doesn't get you Glencross
Glad we see it the same way.

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a rental old fart
Perfect for old fart Spezza

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Sens have no reason to deal Cowen for two old farts, one of which was traded for almost nothing, the other of which is a rental. Hence, the pick. Doesn't mean it's fair but that's what the Sens would want
I get that Cowen is off limits, but I see this thread as "Sens looking for a Top 6 winger" and not as the Flames looking for a d-man. If you're the fanbase looking for a player, you can do it on your own terms. Now I get that you're not willing to part with Cowen, but just say so. Say you won't give him up w/o a big overpayment. That's fair. But saying he's worth that package you listed, is worthy.

Also, since when is 27 an old fart?

I get he wasn't traded for fair value, but if you knew anything about the Oilers at all, you'd know that the Smid trade was AWFUL for the Oilers. GM's, believe it o not, don't always make the best trades. Again, I get you want an overypayment for Cowen. When I see dumbasses posting Subban for X threads, even if they're Habs fans, I ask for an obscene overpayment, because he's 'that' off the table. That said, Cowen is not worth such a crazy deal. As well, you could simply say he's off the table, rather than posting a dumb offer.


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Perfect for old fart Spezza
maybe maybe not. Spezza would be traded if it was up to me

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I get that Cowen is off limits, but I see this thread as "Sens looking for a Top 6 winger" and not as the Flames looking for a d-man. If you're the fanbase looking for a player, you can do it on your own terms. Now I get that you're not willing to part with Cowen, but just say so. Say you won't give him up w/o a big overpayment. That's fair. But saying he's worth that package you listed, is worthy.
In the post you quoted, I said it was not fair, I acknowledged it. And essentially did what you just told me to do

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