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11-16-2013, 08:38 AM
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If Max is that dependant on DD, and can't produce because of that? package them both up and trade them away. Enough of the coddling on this team...
agreed time to rid of Maxi , soft as butter

since he is locked up at decent money , a great trade chip

and we might finds a sucker , his game is too soft for this team

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agreed time to rid of Maxi , soft as butter

since he is locked up at decent money , a great trade chip

and we might finds a sucker , his game is too soft for this team
So glad geniuses like you aren't running the team.

Pacioretty has led our team in scoring for the last 2 years, MB would be an idiot to trade him.

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So glad geniuses like you aren't running the team.

Pacioretty has led our team in scoring for the last 2 years, MB would be an idiot to trade him.
So glad geniuses like you aren't running the forum.

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agreed time to rid of Maxi , soft as butter

since he is locked up at decent money , a great trade chip

and we might finds a sucker , his game is too soft for this team
Say...
What was your former nickname?

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and I can't read ?
Still don't see where I compared the bodychecks... I see me talking about events where we didn't do anything, comparing hits would be like me saying Chara and Foligno should've both gotten 10 game suspension because their hits both targeted the head.

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Still don't see where I compared the bodychecks... I see me talking about events where we didn't do anything, comparing hits would be like me saying Chara and Foligno should've both gotten 10 game suspension because their hits both targeted the head.
are you really debating this ?

lemme guess, you just happened to be googling stuff while typing your post and decided to copy paste whatever your browser thought of showing you or something ?


hey, I dont want to compare this to the Chara incident, but lets talk about the Chara incident

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Still don't see where I compared the bodychecks... I see me talking about events where we didn't do anything, comparing hits would be like me saying Chara and Foligno should've both gotten 10 game suspension because their hits both targeted the head.
You must be half-baked then.

You are complaining about no retribution on the Foligno - Galchenyuk hit. In the same paragraph you mention that Pax/Chara and McLaren/Zednik come to mind as other instances where there was no retribution.

These are nothing at all alike. You bringing these up in regards to last night's hit is indeed comparing, I also can't believe you are debating this.

Like I said, figure skating is on now, and ringuette as someone else suggested.

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11-16-2013, 09:20 AM
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You must be half-baked then.

You are complaining about no retribution on the Foligno - Galchenyuk hit. In the same paragraph you mention that Pax/Chara and McLaren/Zednik come to mind as other instances where there was no retribution.

These are nothing at all alike. You bringing these up in regards to last night's hit is indeed comparing, I also can't believe you are debating this.

Like I said, figure skating is on now, and ringuette as someone else suggested.
Figure skating is on, how you know this?? You gonna give me the channel too!
The end result are nothing alike, that's for sure, but if someone hits your player high like Foligno did, sorry, you gotta respond, sorry just my opinion


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Happy for Desharnais. The team looked happy for him as well.
Could this get him kicksarted? He played a decent game, but not a great game...I wasn't happy when he was selected to shoot, but was happy for him when he scored!!

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Figure skating is on, how you know this?? You gonna give me the channel too!
The end result are nothing alike, that's for sure, but if someone hits your player high like Foligno did, sorry, you gotta respond, sorry just my opinion
Umm... I know that figure skating is on now because it's mid-November. All on-ice sports have begun. That's what happens this time of year. Seriously? I can't give you a channel but if you look on your TV guide you can probably find it. No one gets hit, so no worries about retribution.

Reaction to Patches and Zednik was warranted. It didn't happen. Galchenyuk/Foligno?? Well played Nick Foligno, well played. I'm sure Galchenyuk thought the same, and it'll help his development. Strong hits are part of the game. It's an awesome part of the game. Silly shoving/mucking it up after a strong hit is pansy.

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I thought he played his best game of the season last night. Or at least his best in a long time. He didn't raise the roof or anything but he was decent. Hopefully he keeps it going in that direction.

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If he doesn't score in the shootout or the game doesn't even get there, are we still talking about his game in the same way? Good on him for his SO goal, but it doesn't erase the previous 65 minutes of doing nothing, nevermind the whole season.

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11-16-2013, 09:49 AM
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To be fair and balanced, it was a nice simple effective shootout move - moving the stick around as he did the goalie had no idea what was going on - almost looked like he lost it. The youngsters can learn a lot from that move.

Hopefully he can translate this into more confidence on the ice, because like it not we're stuck with each other, and in that case I'd rather he frigging performed, obviously. That's up to him - he's had every chance.

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11-16-2013, 09:58 AM
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Umm... I know that figure skating is on now because it's mid-November. All on-ice sports have begun. That's what happens this time of year. Seriously? I can't give you a channel but if you look on your TV guide you can probably find it. No one gets hit, so no worries about retribution.

Reaction to Patches and Zednik was warranted. It didn't happen. Galchenyuk/Foligno?? Well played Nick Foligno, well played. I'm sure Galchenyuk thought the same, and it'll help his development. Strong hits are part of the game. It's an awesome part of the game. Silly shoving/mucking it up after a strong hit is pansy.
Funny because I'm the one who wants retribution, so maybe you're the one who should watch figure skating. Don't know how we got into this. Someone mentioned they thought Galchenyuk should suck it up and we don't need to fight every time a player gets hit and I agree with that, but if its a borderline hit which in my opinion it was, that's my opinion, (I think there has been too much of that in our pass, that's why we're labelled a soft team, de-smurfing, you get my drift) I think someone should get on him.

I'm not a moron, I know you can't compare the hits or results of those two other incidents, it's just 2 incidents that first came to mind and that any reader would remember. If I would've mentioned the time Eller got hit from behind by Hamonic and nobody did anything you'd all b like "what? When was that?"

Anyways, that's that

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I mean to have this constant debate about how bad DD is doesn't help. He is part of our team and really there is no argument he is having a terrible season, but give credit where its due he won us a game with a big goal and lets hope he starts scoring.

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If he doesn't score in the shootout or the game doesn't even get there, are we still talking about his game in the same way? Good on him for his SO goal, but it doesn't erase the previous 65 minutes of doing nothing, nevermind the whole season.
To be fair, he's only close to becoming the least productive non-PK specialist that averages 15+min/game in recent history...and that's ignoring contract. We're witnessing a legend, how else can one rationalize the support he gets from the media and fanbase despite this production in what is now closing in on 50 games since signing a contract extension? This is one of the most vicious hockey markets in NA to their own players and somehow Desharnais can avoid it.

Of course the Habs players will be happy he scored. The human Desharnais is probably a great guy, just like Gomez was and loved by his teammates (see bench when he scored 1st goal in over calender year despite the Habs being a lottery team that year).

Outside of Subban, I don't think anyone critiques players as a person. If a player is deemed detrimental to the team now/future it is normal for some fans of the team want that player out. I'd want Jesus off this team if he was as useless as Desharnais.

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I watch the game to watch the progression of the future of the team like Subban/Gallagher/Galchenyuk/Eller/Price...

I dont care if they win or not, honestly

Like I said I rather finish in the bottom to have to have the highest chance to draft the best prospect possible... its just a personnal opinion... I love some players but we have too many bad players since so many years man its not new, isnt it ?
Collect picks eternally? We have enough players to build a contender, what if we sacrifice a season to pick a bust?

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If he doesn't score in the shootout or the game doesn't even get there, are we still talking about his game in the same way? Good on him for his SO goal, but it doesn't erase the previous 65 minutes of doing nothing, nevermind the whole season.
Same as if he doesn't score in the shootout those little things he did do well during the game go unnoticed and talk here today instead is nasty instead of constructive. All about balance. I disagree with the 65 minutes of doing nothing for last night btw. Compared to what I have noticed so far this year he was involved and competed. Imo anyway. Rang one off the post if I recall... If he keeps doing that pucks will go in. I don't want to play the ostrich but positive thinking and encouraging will go a long way here. He's unmovable if you ask me, so the only solution for the team right now is to build on the positive and go from there. If he does start to produce again everyone wins. It's true what they say about Habs fans. Can be the best or the worst. I wish we could rid ourselves of that worst part of Habs fan culture. You'd be amazed what cheering on a player during hard times will do.

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I am wondering if they are gonna credit Galchenyuk with an assist on the second goal. From watching the video, it seems that he is touching the puck with his skates after Markov's shot.

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Just finished watching the game:

Pacioretty had a couple chances. Plekanec line was pretty invisible. Markov, Subban and Eller were really good. Gorges and Diaz got the job done (haters gonna hate). Honestly Desharnais could have 7-10 points if he had finish. That 2nd goal by the Jackets was...odd.

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9/19 for his career, 47.4%.

Brière at 38.5% (20/52) and Gionta at 37% (20/54) are the next best.
Gionta, really? That surprised me. I have almost never seen him score in that situation.

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So glad geniuses like you aren't running the forum.
it is the worst time to trade pacs at this time. he is just coming off an injury give him a break. I hate it when fans like u want to trade everyone cause they r struggling. did u not watch last nights game he had 7shots on net he's coming around

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Same as if he doesn't score in the shootout those little things he did do well during the game go unnoticed and talk here today instead is nasty instead of constructive. All about balance. I disagree with the 65 minutes of doing nothing for last night btw. Compared to what I have noticed so far this year he was involved and competed. Imo anyway. Rang one off the post if I recall... If he keeps doing that pucks will go in. I don't want to play the ostrich but positive thinking and encouraging will go a long way here. He's unmovable if you ask me, so the only solution for the team right now is to build on the positive and go from there. If he does start to produce again everyone wins. It's true what they say about Habs fans. Can be the best or the worst. I wish we could rid ourselves of that worst part of Habs fan culture. You'd be amazed what cheering on a player during hard times will do.
I agree with you 100%. I think he played decent last night and apart from his usual form this year where he hasn't done ****, he made some passes, drew a penalty, scored in SO, etc... I didn't think he was a liability and I think he played a safe game.

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I agree with you 100%. I think he played decent last night and apart from his usual form this year where he hasn't done ****, he made some passes, drew a penalty, scored in SO, etc... I didn't think he was a liability and I think he played a safe game.
The issue is when "not being a liability" is a season high point.

But I'd rather have Desharnais out there than Parros and Murray. Desharnais is a selke candidate compared to Parros.

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Gionta, really? That surprised me. I have almost never seen him score in that situation.
You either have missed lots of Shootouts of your memory is crap. Gionta was one damn fine SO participant

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