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12-24-2006, 08:18 AM
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I think we should have awarded Cullimore the 3rd star last night.

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12-24-2006, 09:30 AM
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Colorado's late success is based on improved powerplay and penalty kill. Now they just have to keep it up.
Lappy has been playing waaaaay more on the PK in the past couple of weeks. Overall, he is still fifth in shorthanded ice time (for forwards), but I checked the stats since 13 Dec, and he's been the leader (or close second) during this stretch of decent penalty killing.

Coincidence?

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12-24-2006, 10:28 AM
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Lappy has been playing waaaaay more on the PK in the past couple of weeks. Overall, he is still fifth in shorthanded ice time (for forwards), but I checked the stats since 13 Dec, and he's been the leader (or close second) during this stretch of decent penalty killing.

Coincidence?
Good point.

To the PK last night -->

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12-24-2006, 11:52 AM
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One of Arnie and Turgs should be signed. Go for 3 balanced lines.
i'd like to see both back though...
In my opinion, the offense should remain AS IS next season, just adding one big name. If anything, this team has too much depth upfront, and no superstar. I say go for a Lecavalier to add to this current offense, and spend every other penny we have on good defensemen. We need a housecleaning down there. Out with the breezy, with the Skrastins, and with the Klee (and Sauer can stay in his perpetual state of backup/towel boy). In with Stuart, Hannan, etc... I think the avs could easily afford a big signing at both ends of the ice next offseason. And probably will have room to sign another good d man.

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12-24-2006, 12:01 PM
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In my opinion, the offense should remain AS IS next season, just adding one big name. If anything, this team has too much depth upfront, and no superstar. I say go for a Lecavalier to add to this current offense, and spend every other penny we have on good defensemen. We need a housecleaning down there. Out with the breezy, with the Skrastins, and with the Klee (and Sauer can stay in his perpetual state of backup/towel boy). In with Stuart, Hannan, etc... I think the avs could easily afford a big signing at both ends of the ice next offseason. And probably will have room to sign another good d man.
Id actually keep Klee in the no.6-7 D role as he can play on the RW too, which is useful. He wont command much either.

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12-24-2006, 12:05 PM
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Id actually keep Klee in the no.6-7 D role as he can play on the RW too, which is useful. He wont command much either.
He's already pretty old, I'd much rather get a younger stay-at-home specialist. The key is to first sign the stars. The offensive star to put this team over the top, and someone on defense to play with Leopold and shut down the other team (Hannan, for example). If we have no more cap space after that, we can keep Klee. So...

Hannan-Leopold
Vaananen-Klee
Clark-Liles

Sauer

Thats a good defense, and the offense would obviously be spectacluar. Theo would be the only if.

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12-24-2006, 12:19 PM
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He's already pretty old, I'd much rather get a younger stay-at-home specialist. The key is to first sign the stars. The offensive star to put this team over the top, and someone on defense to play with Leopold and shut down the other team (Hannan, for example). If we have no more cap space after that, we can keep Klee. So...

Hannan-Leopold
Vaananen-Klee
Clark-Liles

Sauer

Thats a good defense, and the offense would obviously be spectacluar. Theo would be the only if.
Id rather have it (cause I think Liles deserves to be on the top line and not on the 3rd line):

Leopold-Liles
Vaananen-Hannan
Clark-Skrastins

Klee

Get rid of Sauer and Brisebois.

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12-24-2006, 12:23 PM
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I listened to the Hawks radio feed last night, and they felt that Wolski should have been penalized for "excessive celebration" on the Cullimore goal. Thoughts? I saw the highlights and it didn't look that "excessive" to me.

Wojtek shut them up on his second goal though

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12-24-2006, 12:26 PM
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I like the Vaananen-Hannan pairing, if not only because of their names. Can you imagine the announcers trying to get that right? "Vaananen leaves it for Hannan... Hannan gives it back to Vaanahannan...."

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12-24-2006, 01:57 PM
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Turgeon 1,5 million, Brisebois 2,25 million, May 0,6 million and 4,6 million bonuses will be all gone.

Which is total of 8,95 million. We will lose some of that money to keep Leopold, Svatos and maybe Arnason.

There are also other possibilities who could leave(UFA):

Laaksonen(I don't know, he's having bad year offensively), Laperriere(keep), Arnason (keep), Vaananen (keep), Sakic (we should keep him), RyCroft (definately keep him).

So overall i don't think our team will change dramatically.

Svatos and Leopold will be looking for new deals. I think we should sign Svatos to 2 year worth 4 million and Leopold to longer deal 3-4 years around 3 million per year.

Cap number's this year:
Svatos $1,050,000 and Leopold's $1,150,000

So, if they get a raise to 2 million and to 3 million it will take about 3 million off the cap-space. Which leaves us with 6 million open cap-space.
Sakic will propably sign for less money or the same money, even though he will have better year than 2005-06, he's getting older and that should be factor when negoating new deal.

Arnason-factor. Should we keep him? He has been awesome, just great. How much is he worth? I would say around 2- 2,5 million longterm, if he keeps playing as well as he is right now.

That would take another 2 million off the cap-space.. 4 million left.

Vaananen will demand more money too, especially now, because he will be UFA.

The cap will go higher next season something like 1-2,5 million, so we should have at least 5 million free cap-space for next off-season. It's not that much, really.

Things could change soon though, if they decide to buy-out Theodore. We'll have to wait and see.

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12-24-2006, 02:05 PM
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Turgeon 1,5 million, Brisebois 2,25 million, May 0,6 million and 4,6 million bonuses will be all gone.

Which is total of 8,95 million. We will lose some of that money to keep Leopold, Svatos and maybe Arnason.

There are also other possibilities who could leave(UFA):

Laaksonen(I don't know, he's having bad year offensively), Laperriere(keep), Arnason (keep), Vaananen (keep), Sakic (we should keep him), RyCroft (definately keep him).

So overall i don't think our team will change dramatically.

Svatos and Leopold will be looking for new deals. I think we should sign Svatos to 2 year worth 4 million and Leopold to longer deal 3-4 years around 3 million per year.

Cap number's this year:
Svatos $1,050,000 and Leopold's $1,150,000

So, if they get a raise to 2 million and to 3 million it will take about 3 million off the cap-space. Which leaves us with 6 million open cap-space.
Sakic will propably sign for less money or the same money, even though he will have better year than 2005-06, he's getting older and that should be factor when negoating new deal.

Arnason-factor. Should we keep him? He has been awesome, just great. How much is he worth? I would say around 2- 2,5 million longterm, if he keeps playing as well as he is right now.

That would take another 2 million off the cap-space.. 4 million left.

Vaananen will demand more money too, especially now, because he will be UFA.

The cap will go higher next season something like 1-2,5 million, so we should have at least 5 million free cap-space for next off-season. It's not that much, really.

Things could change soon though, if they decide to buy-out Theodore. We'll have to wait and see.


Svatos and Leopold wont get that big of a raise because,Svatos is struggling and Leo is injured most of this year.

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12-24-2006, 02:19 PM
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at 1.5, Turgeon is earning his paycheck as much as anyone so far this year.

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12-24-2006, 02:19 PM
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Svatos and Leopold wont get that big of a raise because,Svatos is struggling and Leo is injured most of this year.
Longterm Leopold could definately get 3-4 million per year, if we wanna sign him to just a one-year-deal then maybe 2 million. Same with Svatos, if we wanna sign him to one-year-deal it should be around 1-1,5 million. It's more of a risk though, because Leopold will be UFA and maybe even Svatos.

We also need to remember that in 2008-09 Leopold,Liles,Clark will be all UFAs. It will be very hard year to Colorado, because there's no way they can keep them all, if they don't move Theo(let him walk).

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12-24-2006, 02:21 PM
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at 1.5, Turgeon is earning his paycheck as much as anyone so far this year.
Turgeon was very good last year too until he got injured.. I just hope it's not the same case this season. He just needs to stay healthy.

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12-24-2006, 02:41 PM
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At this rate, Svatos may scrape by with a $500 000 raise. Leopold wont be getting any. Plus, I'd gonna bet that Skrastins gets traded sooner or later, which frees up more cap space. Still, I think the avs can have about 6-8 million left in cap space once all is said and done. That can get Hannan + an offensive stud.

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Hensick, Jones and Cumiskey will be key factors for next season roster, Imo. If they are ready, we will see one roster, if not - another (close to this year) roster. Imo.

if Hensick is close to Stastny and Jones is PF, Laaksonen, McLean or Rycroft will go or sit and Richardson with Laperier and Turgeon will play less.

if Cumiskey is good enough, I understand he already is, we will be less active at FA for D-man.

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12-24-2006, 03:03 PM
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Longterm Leopold could definately get 3-4 million per year, if we wanna sign him to just a one-year-deal then maybe 2 million. Same with Svatos, if we wanna sign him to one-year-deal it should be around 1-1,5 million. It's more of a risk though, because Leopold will be UFA and maybe even Svatos.

We also need to remember that in 2008-09 Leopold,Liles,Clark will be all UFAs. It will be very hard year to Colorado, because there's no way they can keep them all, if they don't move Theo(let him walk).
Theo (if he plays the way he has been) will have to take a huge cut to stay here or he will be let go. Im sure that will free up atleast 3 million of cash (or 6 if we let him go).

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12-25-2006, 12:02 AM
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Turgeon was very good last year too until he got injured.. I just hope it's not the same case this season. He just needs to stay healthy.
The announcers on Altitude have mentioned a few times that he was wearing a harness after his injury, which hindered his mobility. After his surgery, he shouldn't have the problem with a nagging shoulder problem. Theoretically, last year's case shouldn't be a problem this year.

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