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11-17-2013, 11:15 PM
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LA - Dal

Jeff Carter and Dustin Brown

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Jamie Benn

The emergence of Toffoli makes this trade feasible for the Kings who would be getting someone for Kopitar's left wing and a bonafide star (no pun intended). The Stars would be getting a 40+ sniper for the wing/center and someone who could create space with his hits and physicality.

Don't know if this is good value, just wanted some feedback.

Benn could also keep the grit in the lineup with his aggression and fighting (which Brown never did). LA would be losing a great shooter and playmaker in Carter, but having Toffoli is kind of redundant.


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I don't think either team would make this deal, to be honest.

Teams don't trade captains very often....and I can't remember two being traded for eachother, lol.

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And here comes the vitriol because you are absolutely going to get destroyed.

Dallas wants no part of Dustin the Diver or One Dimensional Jeff.

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11-17-2013, 11:25 PM
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What the **** did I just read

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And here comes the vitriol because you are absolutely going to get destroyed.

Dallas wants no part of Dustin the Diver or One Dimensional Jeff.
He dives. So do a lot of players in the league. And Carter is not one dimensional. He's a great playmaker and sniper.

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11-17-2013, 11:31 PM
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I really don't see how either team does this, and the value difference between Benn and Carter is a lot less than Brown.

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Jeff Carter and Dustin Brown

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Jamie Benn

The emergence of Toffoli makes this trade feasible for the Kings who would be getting someone for Kopitar's left wing and a bonafide star (no pun intended). The Stars would be getting a 40+ sniper for the wing/center and someone who could create space with his hits and physicality.

Don't know if this is good value, just wanted some feedback.

Benn could also keep the grit in the lineup with his aggression and fighting (which Brown never did). LA would be losing a great shooter and playmaker in Carter, but having Toffoli is kind of redundant.
Hell NO!

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11-17-2013, 11:39 PM
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Carter's value is > Benn's value. Carter is underpaid by at least a mil right now.

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I really don't see how either team does this, and the value difference between Benn and Carter is a lot less than Brown.
But I feel that the Stars would want Brown's value also. So I guess Carter and Stoll for Benn??? I don't think DAL bites.

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Carter's value is > Benn's value. Carter is underpaid by at least a mil right now.
Benn is better than Carter and has the same cap hit.

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Jeff Carter and Dustin Brown

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Jamie Benn

The emergence of Toffoli makes this trade feasible for the Kings who would be getting someone for Kopitar's left wing and a bonafide star (no pun intended). The Stars would be getting a 40+ sniper for the wing/center and someone who could create space with his hits and physicality.

Don't know if this is good value, just wanted some feedback.

Benn could also keep the grit in the lineup with his aggression and fighting (which Brown never did). LA would be losing a great shooter and playmaker in Carter, but having Toffoli is kind of redundant.
I can't see Dallas dealing Benn. But I'll leave that to Dallas fans to discuss.

As for the Kings:

A) seven games of Toffoli does not make Carter disposable. He's a great prospect, but he's not Ovechkin or Crosby.

B) Having Toffoli is not redundant. It is insurance, or overload if you want, but it is not redundant. That's like saying because the Oilers had Kurri, Anderson was redundant. I'd rather have extra offensive talent, not less.

C) We are 14-6-1. We have made the WCF two straight years. Why are we trading two core pieces of all that?

D) Who/what fills the hole created by Brown? Or are you implying Toffoli for Carter, Benn for Brown? If so, that's way to early to make that level of assumption.

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11-18-2013, 12:00 AM
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And here comes the vitriol because you are absolutely going to get destroyed.

Dallas wants no part of Dustin the Diver or One Dimensional Jeff.
Jeff Carter's SH TOI/Gm: 2:01
Jamie Benn's SH TOI/Gm: :15

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Edit: And that's a terrible proposal for both teams.

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Benn is better than Carter and has the same cap hit.
On what planet is Benn better.

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I'm embarrassed by this entire thread. I don't even know where to start. Top to bottom, one of the worst things I've read in quite some time.

And your hate of Brown is pathetic.

Total trash.

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The difference between Carter and Benn is not Brown.

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On what planet is Benn better.
Earth.

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Earth.
LOL. The numbers and ring don't lie. Keep Benn -- do not need.

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And here comes the vitriol because you are absolutely going to get destroyed.

Dallas wants no part of Dustin the Diver or One Dimensional Jeff.
You're delusional.

And Stars fans utter fascination with Dustin Brown never ceases to amuse me.

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LOL. The numbers and ring don't lie. Keep Benn -- do not need.
If you aren't convinced you are free to post a poll about it. I guarantee you Benn would win in a landslide.

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I really don't see how either team does this, and the value difference between Benn and Carter is a lot less than Brown.
Look some people think Benn>Carter and others Carter<Benn. This means their value is somewhat close.

Therefore, no matter how much you may hate Brown, OP, what this guy says. ^

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People just don't get to watch carter as much as they should. The OP has lost his freakin mind. I would not trade carter for benn straight up. As someone else mentioned, his have for brown has grown so tiresome.

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Benn is better than Carter and has the same cap hit.
I don't think Benn is better. It may be close but Carter can really rack up the goals.

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And here comes the vitriol because you are absolutely going to get destroyed.

Dallas wants no part of Dustin the Diver or One Dimensional Jeff.
One dimensional Jeff? Tell me, how many games do you watch when the Stars aren't playing? I'm going to guess none. And this is a terrible trade proposal on all fronts from a guy who is known for these ridiculous posts.

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This is funny.

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Carter and Benn are pretty close to equal value, Carter is damn good and my fellow Stars fans are selling him short.

Neither team does this though, esp the Kings.

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