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11-17-2013, 08:06 PM
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I'd love him on the Jets, but Pavelec would have to be going the other way.

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11-17-2013, 08:09 PM
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YES PLEASE TRADE ANDERSON
don't worry Lehner can handle the net by himself, I as a Leaf fan would love to see him gone. The man is the reason for why Ottawa was in playoffs last year, when 1/2 the team was injured... And when Lehner wakes up and dropes his stats, you guys will be where you should be (next to Edmonton)!

Don't be fooled keep Anderson, everything I said was sarcasm, Ottawa and Anaheim and my other 2 teams. (Even though Anaheim's fans really piss me off with their hate.)
Anderson was one of the key injuries you referred to in your post. If he was good enough to carry a team into the playoffs while watching from the press box then the Sens wouldn't be thinking of moving him.

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11-17-2013, 08:11 PM
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Not yet, he should be the guy soon though. He has the skill to be a number one, but shouldn't just toss him in there and expect he'll mentally handle it. Keep Anderson for a while, let Lehner take the job and when he is stable trade Anderson.

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11-17-2013, 09:32 PM
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I've said it many times before and I will say it again...

Murry messed up big time last year when he traded Bishop instead of Anderson. Andy would have returned alot more than Bishop did.

A tandum of Bishop and Lehner proved to be amongst the league's best when Anderson went down.

Now Anderson is not having a Veniza year and his value has collapsed like Nortel shares.

Murray has some very good signings/trades to his credit but the Bishop, Corvo and Greening moves/signings are pretty bad decisions.

Move Anderson and another piece and go get a top 4 D or a 1st line winger otherwise we can forget about the playoffs.

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11-17-2013, 11:00 PM
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We already have like 4 defencemen who should be in the pressbox, not sure why we'd want a 5th.

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11-17-2013, 11:02 PM
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11-17-2013, 11:03 PM
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The time to trade him was last year, when he was at peak value playing way over his career numbers, and with two very good cheap goalies lehner and bishop behind him.

They should probably still trade him, but the return won't be awesome and they'll have to find a backup somewhere too.

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11-17-2013, 11:05 PM
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Haven't watched him on the Sens. Just know he played better once traded. Is he struggling? Or has he quit on the Sens too? Or is Lehner just playing that much better?
Our defense sucks. Andy is doing mediocre and lehner is playing like the best goalie in the league. Lehner adamantly defends andy as being number 1 though.

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11-17-2013, 11:39 PM
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The time to trade him was last year, when he was at peak value playing way over his career numbers, and with two very good cheap goalies lehner and bishop behind him.

They should probably still trade him, but the return won't be awesome and they'll have to find a backup somewhere too.
I agree with this and the post above it. Trading Anderson last year would have been the smart move. Now that he's reverted to journeyman status I doubt he's worth much. Can't stop a beach ball.

You didn't see Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur riding the pines behind mediocre starters. Lehner can play now.

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11-17-2013, 11:45 PM
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Yes, trade your number one goalie while in the middle of a race for the playoffs. Probably would have worked out brilliantly.

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11-18-2013, 05:05 AM
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Yes, trade your number one goalie while in the middle of a race for the playoffs. Probably would have worked out brilliantly.
Except they wouldn't be in the race if not for Lehner.

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11-18-2013, 08:52 AM
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Yes, trade your number one goalie while in the middle of a race for the playoffs. Probably would have worked out brilliantly.
Don't be a pessimist... Ottawa had 3 number one goalies last year... all 3 were very capable and it's thanks to all 3 goalies that we made the playoffs... Andy can't take the credit alone.

With the piece Anderson would have returned, there is no reason to think we wouldn't have made the playoffs. We would still have had stellar goaltending and filled a need somewhere in the line-up. Besides... missing the playoffs in year 2 of a rebuilding wouldn't have been the end of the world, right?

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11-18-2013, 08:56 AM
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Yeah guys, we better trade one of our two good, reliable goaltenders for pieces that won't cover the reason why we need two good, reliable goaltenders.

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11-18-2013, 09:44 AM
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I've said it many times before and I will say it again...

Murry messed up big time last year when he traded Bishop instead of Anderson. Andy would have returned alot more than Bishop did.

A tandum of Bishop and Lehner proved to be amongst the league's best when Anderson went down.

Now Anderson is not having a Veniza year and his value has collapsed like Nortel shares.

Murray has some very good signings/trades to his credit but the Bishop, Corvo and Greening moves/signings are pretty bad decisions.

Move Anderson and another piece and go get a top 4 D or a 1st line winger otherwise we can forget about the playoffs.

Good luck getting a first line winger for Anderson.

And, yeah, I saw the "other piece" stuff. A deal with Anderson as the principal is still not getting you that return.

Maybe the reason he hasn't been moved is a sensible deal is not out there. You want a vet for your playoff run and the return for moving him would not be worth the effort.

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11-18-2013, 09:50 AM
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Personally I'd just package him and someone else (Michalek, Cowen or both) and get the best player in the deal.

I had proposed that trio to Edmonton for one of their star wingers (Eberle or Yakupov) before Bryz signed.

1-for-1 I think I'd rather keep him because he wouldn't bring in anyone worth trading him for. Lehner will probably get a raise of about 1.500-2.000 which makes our tandem under 6m... very reasonable for two quality tenders.
Don't want Michalek , but a deal of Anderson , Cowen and Greening could work with one of our goalies going back for Yakupov

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11-18-2013, 10:23 AM
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As an Oilers fan I wouldn't mind seeing a deal like hemsky @ 50% for Anderson.

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11-18-2013, 10:30 AM
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As an Oilers fan I wouldn't mind seeing a deal like hemsky @ 50% for Anderson.
Yeah, I am sure you wouldn't mind that. A soft 40 pt winger who is an impending UFA for a number one goalie.

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11-18-2013, 10:43 AM
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Don't want Michalek , but a deal of Anderson , Cowen and Greening could work with one of our goalies going back for Yakupov
Yakupov has been overrated so far. Cowen has more value than Yakupov. So basically, you want a top goalie, a top 4 D, and a young 3rd-4th liner for a player who won't play on both sides of the ice and has been benched a few games so far this season?


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11-18-2013, 11:00 AM
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Yeah guys, we better trade one of our two good, reliable goaltenders for pieces that won't cover the reason why we need two good, reliable goaltenders.
Trading Anderson last year would have gotten you that #3/4 D without a problem. This year, it might require an added incentive. And yes, that will cover a glaring hole in our defense!

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Good luck getting a first line winger for Anderson.

And, yeah, I saw the "other piece" stuff. A deal with Anderson as the principal is still not getting you that return.

Maybe the reason he hasn't been moved is a sensible deal is not out there. You want a vet for your playoff run and the return for moving him would not be worth the effort.
Problably not going to happen now unless we package another valuable piece with him. Yes, I agree, there are just too many available goalies out there at the moment, the return will be no where close to what it would have been last year... Murry messed that one up royally!!!

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Are you on crack? Yakupov has been overrated so far. Cowen has more value than Yakupov. So basically, you want a top goalie, a top 4 D, and a young 3rd-4th liner for a player who won't play on both sides of the ice and has been benched a few games so far this season?
Cowen is far more useless at the moment... give your head a shake buddy. I might very well be tempted to do that trade if only a top 4 D wasn't our most pressing need right now.

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I've said it many times before and I will say it again...

Murry messed up big time last year when he traded Bishop instead of Anderson. Andy would have returned alot more than Bishop did.

A tandum of Bishop and Lehner proved to be amongst the league's best when Anderson went down.

Now Anderson is not having a Veniza year and his value has collapsed like Nortel shares.

Murray has some very good signings/trades to his credit but the Bishop, Corvo and Greening moves/signings are pretty bad decisions.

Move Anderson and another piece and go get a top 4 D or a 1st line winger otherwise we can forget about the playoffs.
Ridiculous how well Bishop is playing. and behind one of the league's worst defense too.

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Problably not going to happen now unless we package another valuable piece with him. Yes, I agree, there are just too many available goalies out there at the moment, the return will be no where close to what it would have been last year... Murry messed that one up royally!!!



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Just to be clear, I am not saying that Anderson is not a valuable asset. I'm just saying he doesn't get you a top line winger. He is still an excellent netminder (and, very quietly, we pretty good even in his Florida days).

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No reason for Ottawa to trade Anderson, having two good starting goalies in the NHL is an invaluable thing to have.

Lehner will get his fair share of starts, and really goalies don't carry as much value as they should in todays nhl. Not worth trading him.

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I don't know why but I feel like the Isles are the best fit. He has a solid contract that Wang can afford and the Isles have the young guys a team like Ottawa would be looking for.

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Trading Anderson is a ridiculous notion...
In that scenario, if Lehner gets injured, then we're playing Lawson.

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No reason for Ottawa to trade Anderson, having two good starting goalies in the NHL is an invaluable thing to have.

Lehner will get his fair share of starts, and really goalies don't carry as much value as they should in todays nhl. Not worth trading him.
That's all fine and dandy when your team is well balanced but such is not the case in Ottawa. We have defense that is so bad right now that it is stalling the offense. The only position of strength in Ottawa is the goaltending. That is the only piece we can use to address our defensive woes.

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Trading Anderson is a ridiculous notion...
In that scenario, if Lehner gets injured, then we're playing Lawson.
Stop being overly dramatic. Backup goalies are a dime a dozen. Any deal for Andy would likely return a backup goalie as part of the deal.

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