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11-18-2013, 08:30 AM
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Paajarvi may be a late bloomer like JVR did for us. It's not a win until he reaches 25. St. Louis is a team where they have a very good depth at everything. I am not sure about it though I never liked or followed either one.

EDIT: Don't forget that if you end up at the bottom it may be a 30th overall next year which in my opinion won't be that bad a deal.
Thanks for avoiding the point entirely and making up subjective pointless numbers.
We haven't lost the Smid trade, not until Horak an Brossoit turn 25.

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11-18-2013, 09:12 AM
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Thanks for avoiding the point entirely and making up subjective pointless numbers.
We haven't lost the Smid trade, not until Horak an Brossoit turn 25.
Yup. It's just another step further into rebuilding.

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11-18-2013, 09:15 AM
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You're wrong. Your problem is MacT. He is a type of person as he stated himself to be when he joined. Burke did it for Calgary once again. You guys ended up trading your best defenseman.

I will ask you once more what other problems are you guys facing? There are tons of em and not few.
So MacT is a type of person? That's a huge problem.

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11-18-2013, 09:20 AM
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Paajarvi may be a late bloomer like JVR did for us. It's not a win until he reaches 25. St. Louis is a team where they have a very good depth at everything. I am not sure about it though I never liked or followed either one.

EDIT: Don't forget that if you end up at the bottom it may be a 30th overall next year which in my opinion won't be that bad a deal.
Your english is very hard to follow. The bottom? Wouldn't that be 1st overall? I give up, your comments seem like chinese to me.

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11-18-2013, 10:50 AM
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Gagner is an upgrade over Bozak.

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11-18-2013, 10:55 AM
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Your english is very hard to follow. The bottom? Wouldn't that be 1st overall? I give up, your comments seem like chinese to me.
Sorry, English is not my first language. Edmonton gave up second round pick and Paajarvi for Perron. If they end up being in the bottom that 2nd round pick is 30th overall pick.

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11-18-2013, 10:56 AM
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Your english is very hard to follow. The bottom? Wouldn't that be 1st overall? I give up, your comments seem like chinese to me.
Chinese isn't a language.

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11-18-2013, 10:59 AM
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Gagner is an upgrade over Bozak.
Debatable.

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11-18-2013, 11:00 AM
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Chinese isn't a language.
Yes it is.

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11-18-2013, 11:04 AM
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Yes it is.
I think he is saying you have to delineate between mandarin and Cantonese.

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No, it's not.

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I think he is saying you have to delineate between mandarin and Cantonese.
This guy gets it.

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Cody Franson
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Sam Gagner
Linus Omark
Wow. What a great deal for the Leafs. Better add the 2015 1st from the Leafs to even it out.

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11-18-2013, 12:24 PM
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We do not want Gagner on Toronto.

He isn't physically imposing
He isn't defensively responsible

and most importantly he isn't offensively gifted enough to make you forget about the first two problems.

Omark has 0 value to the Leafs or any other team in the league. If he can't cut it with a bottom feeder like the Oilers, what is he going to do on the Leafs?

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11-18-2013, 01:56 PM
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I think he is saying you have to delineate between mandarin and Cantonese.
That is what I meant to say.

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11-18-2013, 01:59 PM
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We do not want Gagner on Toronto.

He isn't physically imposing
He isn't defensively responsible

and most importantly he isn't offensively gifted enough to make you forget about the first two problems.

Omark has 0 value to the Leafs or any other team in the league. If he can't cut it with a bottom feeder like the Oilers, what is he going to do on the Leafs?
I dont think some players on the Leafs like Kadri is defensivily responsible either.


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11-18-2013, 02:18 PM
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I dont think some players on the Leafs like Kadri is defensivily responsible either.
Based on what?

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11-18-2013, 02:26 PM
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Gagner is an upgrade over Bozak.
But not over Kadri or Bolland....so.....

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11-18-2013, 02:38 PM
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that's HORRIBLE!!!! OMGGGGG!!!

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11-18-2013, 02:48 PM
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I dont think some players on the Leafs like Kadri is defensivily responsible either.
Kadri is defensively responsible.

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11-18-2013, 03:01 PM
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Is this like a troll thread or some payback for leaf fans. I wouldn't even give up one those peices for Gagner (omark is irrelavent, wasn't he waived and no picked him up?)

My turn I guess:

EDM 1st (2015)
Justin Shultz
Perron

for

Bozak
Conditional 4th round pick
(upgrades to 3rd rounder if leafs win their division)

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11-18-2013, 03:02 PM
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I dont think some players on the Leafs like Kadri is defensivily responsible either.
Kadri is fine defensively - no issues, probably one of our better players on our team for this actually!

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11-18-2013, 03:46 PM
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Bad for Toronto. Take out Kulemin and you're getting closer.
take out Kulemin, and the 1st, and I still pass from leafs pov ...Gagner other than playing C, he's not an upgrade in anyone he would be competing with for the Leafs.

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11-18-2013, 04:26 PM
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Gagner is an upgrade over Bozak.
Maybe to the offense-only Oilers

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11-18-2013, 04:32 PM
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yeah, not a viable deal at all

Linus Omark is maybe worth a fifth rounder, and that is being quite generous. Gagner is maybe worth a 1st(a low pick for a contender to shore up center depth) + a prospect, or a decent-good roster player.

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