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11-19-2013, 06:30 AM
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Pacioretty isnt doing better than dd or briere. Very worrying imho since he should be our best forward.

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Pacioretty isnt doing better than dd or briere. Very worrying imho since he should be our best forward.
Do you watch the games or just base your comments off hockeydb?

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11-19-2013, 07:39 AM
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Do you watch the games or just base your comments off hockeydb?
I watch every damn game - he's been ineffective. Over to you!

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11-19-2013, 08:02 AM
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Pacioretty is related to Santa Claus

let me explain.


Santa gets his powers from kids who believe.

Pacioretty gets his powers from Habs fans who believe.

Now if we can stop acting like kids not getting their way and whining because "he dwiwint skwore ewery game" and just start cheering for the team....then.....

His powers will return!

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11-19-2013, 08:28 AM
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I watch every damn game - he's been ineffective. Over to you!
Nice I do to, he hasn't been productive but he definitely hasn't been as ineffective as Desharnais and Briere

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11-19-2013, 09:16 AM
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Nice I do to, he hasn't been productive but he definitely hasn't been as ineffective as Desharnais and Briere
exactly. Pacioretty's been getting some good looks and could easily have 4-5 goals since returning with a bit of puck luck.

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11-19-2013, 09:38 AM
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Do you watch the games or just base your comments off hockeydb?
I expect pacioretty to be more effective than a glorified travis moen. I honestly couldnt care less about intangibles and the occasional check. Give me he 25g+ heshould be scoring

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11-19-2013, 12:49 PM
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Well whats different from this year then last year.


-He is playing tougher competition this year.

-Offensive zone start % changed from 63.6(2nd) to 49.2(4th); looks like you guys were a better puck possession team last year.

-David Desharnais' production is somehow directly correlated with Pacioretty's. (hmmmm, lol)

-Playing 0:46 less of PP time, and 1:38 more SH time then last year.


Maybe its a coaching issue, "dont fix what aint broke" ?

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11-19-2013, 06:15 PM
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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1h

For 2nd time in last couple of weeks, MTL player parts ways with his agent. This time it's Max Pacioretty. Last time it was Andrei Markov.


https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...17131651518464

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11-19-2013, 06:26 PM
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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1h

For 2nd time in last couple of weeks, MTL player parts ways with his agent. This time it's Max Pacioretty. Last time it was Andrei Markov.


https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...17131651518464
Has anyone explained why this is happening?

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11-19-2013, 06:27 PM
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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1h

For 2nd time in last couple of weeks, MTL player parts ways with his agent. This time it's Max Pacioretty. Last time it was Andrei Markov.


https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...17131651518464
Sees the contracts given out by Bergevin to every one but Subban..

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11-19-2013, 06:54 PM
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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1h

For 2nd time in last couple of weeks, MTL player parts ways with his agent. This time it's Max Pacioretty. Last time it was Andrei Markov.
Pacioretty late on the play. His previous agent undersold him on the long term deal he signed, so he's as cooked as they come.

What's his new agent going to tell him -- "we'll demand a trade to a lower tax base jurisdiction, this way you'll get an indirect raise".

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11-19-2013, 06:58 PM
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Nothing wrong with MaxPac. Everything's wrong with the team system and the coach.

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11-19-2013, 07:16 PM
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Well whats different from this year then last year.


-He is playing tougher competition this year.

-Offensive zone start % changed from 63.6(2nd) to 49.2(4th); looks like you guys were a better puck possession team last year.

-David Desharnais' production is somehow directly correlated with Pacioretty's. (hmmmm, lol)

-Playing 0:46 less of PP time, and 1:38 more SH time then last year.

Maybe its a coaching issue, "dont fix what aint broke" ?
Pacioretty's production has little to nothing to do with Desharnais...see 12/13 and 10/11. Even in 11/12 out of his 33 goals, Desharnais had 1st assists on 7 (Cole and Subban had much more of an impact). It's a huge insult to Pac to suggest this haha.

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11-19-2013, 07:35 PM
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he was underwhelming last year even though he put up lots of points. Far too often invisible and way too soft.
He is not a gritty player and he doesn't hit like he used to, but I would never call him soft. Even if he doesn't throw his weight around, I find his size has always been noticeable on the ice even when he is not producing. He is strong and not an easy player to knock off the puck.

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11-19-2013, 09:34 PM
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Agent was the problem.

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11-19-2013, 09:50 PM
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I'm amazed by the expertise of so many geniuses on this board concerning Pacioretty. I particularly salute the cognoscenti who suggest trading him for Cammalleri. To all of you who have made fools of youselves, I suggest you retreat to your toy room and amuse yourselves with your jacks, tiddledywinks, and marbles.

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11-19-2013, 09:58 PM
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Agent was the problem.
lol...

Max backing it up tonight!!!

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11-19-2013, 10:15 PM
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Nothing wrong with MaxPac. Everything's wrong with the team system and the coach.
Yep.

Max is a man to believe in.

I expect him to have the Hab goal scoring lead this year again.

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11-19-2013, 10:18 PM
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Couldn't even get a 4th goal...trade him

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11-19-2013, 10:19 PM
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Didn't take long for this thread to be at the top of the board again...

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11-19-2013, 10:32 PM
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Nothing is wrong with Patches, clearly.

It's more external pressure from Desharnais' situation, the team's lack of scoring, and some internal pressure from him not performing, which is hopefully all gone now.

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11-19-2013, 10:34 PM
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That was a prototypical Patches game. Drawing penalties and timing a fast move into the slot to snipe one.

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11-19-2013, 10:39 PM
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I hate all the Therrien bashing on the forum but I think tonight was a statement game from Max. He was pissed and he played with passion. Decided to show the coach what playing offence will do instead of defence.

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11-19-2013, 10:42 PM
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I hate all the Therrien bashing on the forum but I think tonight was a statement game from Max. He was pissed and he played with passion. Decided to show the coach what playing offence will do instead of defence.
He played with an edge all game long. It was great to see.

He obviously has a bond with DD too. I guess he's good enough to carry him when he's on his game. Because that might be the best game I've seen Max play. He was great tonight. Physical, tons of chances, in the dirty areas... great, great game.

We needed somebody to step up and it was nice to see Max be the guy.

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