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11-19-2013, 04:12 PM
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We are all blaming therrien but who is the fool that hired him? All looks no substance.
He did brought in Briere, Parros, Murray, Drewiski

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11-19-2013, 04:19 PM
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Bring on Guy Boucher, at least as an interim.

I can recall reading somewhere (not recent mind you) PK said he was the best coach he's ever had...not to mention DD dominated the AHL (78 points in 60 games) with Boucher as coach.
Michel Therrien: "The most important thing is to make Desharnais effective, and so I'm turning my job over to Mister Boucher."

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He did brought in Briere, Parros, Murray, Drewiski
Literally the only bad move there was Briere because he just doesn't fit anywhere. The other three are all serviceable (not in full time roles) that he got for next to nothing. You're not gonna get a top 4 defenseman for a 5th round pick. You get Drewiske.

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11-19-2013, 04:23 PM
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I believe he is exactly what this group of players need at this point in time. Do a proper youth turn, get rid of "older" players and let him develop the young lads.

Subban should play more, and in every key situation for his development and the sake of this team.
Another thing is, you can't have that much players slumping for that long. There is an internal problem for sure.
What's the history with him though (Boucher)? It seems Yzerman gave up on him pretty quickly.

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Yes. Let's get Boucher. After all, the Lightnings are doing much worse without him...

Also; Patch for Yakupov

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1. Makes excuses for why the team is struggling
2. Players calling him out implicitly

This is the start of a coach who is feeling the heat. Habs go on another losing streak and he's out.

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1. Makes excuses for why the team is struggling
2. Players calling him out implicitly

This is the start of a coach who is feeling the heat. Habs go on another losing streak and he's out.
what do you mean 'another'? this one is not over yet.

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1. Makes excuses for why the team is struggling
2. Players calling him out implicitly

This is the start of a coach who is feeling the heat. Habs go on another losing streak and he's out.
I don't understand the logic behind he can only be fired if there's a losing streak. I'm not saying that's not the case. I just don't understand why management doesn't have the foresight to see what's right in front of them and try to avoid a losing streak by taking out the trash sooner.

Get rid of him now, so he can't f up the team any further and cost them games.

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11-19-2013, 04:39 PM
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It's far more likely 2 or 3 of the core players on the team get moved out before Therrien is let go. Of those the more disgruntled they are the more likely they are to go.

Just trying to keep it real.

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11-19-2013, 04:59 PM
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1. Makes excuses for why the team is struggling
2. Players calling him out implicitly

This is the start of a coach who is feeling the heat. Habs go on another losing streak and he's out.
I couldn't help but laugh when he brought up the "2nd most man games lost" excuse in his presser.

His mantra from day one has been "No Excuses". How many times is he going to have hypocritical moments in public lol?

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11-19-2013, 05:02 PM
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I couldn't help but laugh when he brought up the "2nd most man games lost" excuse in his presser.

His mantra from day one has been "No Excuses". How many times is he going to have hypocritical moments in public lol?
My biggest take away was that DD was being competitive. Cool. I can be competitive in the NHL, too. I'll just be inefficient, incompetent and useless.. just like DD. Doesn't mean I should stay in the NHL or get ice time over more deserving players who get things done when they are on the ice.

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11-19-2013, 05:04 PM
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Yes. Let's get Boucher. After all, the Lightnings are doing much worse without him...

Also; Patch for Yakupov
And that has nothing to do with Bishop.

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Yes. Let's get Boucher. After all, the Lightnings are doing much worse without him...

Also; Patch for Yakupov
Tampa are artificially high in the standings because all the east teams started on Western road trips. Tampa traditionally has a godlike record against the west and do piss poor in the east.

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11-19-2013, 05:14 PM
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MaxPac being ripped a new one on RDS!

Max's comments about Therrien's system has brought out the knives on RDS. Max is being bashed for daring to question Therrien. This is the usual local media backlash when one of the 'gars de chez nous' gets criticized.

To me this looks like the players are sick and tired of Therrien's 'Play the right way' defensive system that leaves no room for offensive creativity.

And so it begins, Bergevin will start to reap what he sowed!

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11-19-2013, 05:22 PM
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Max's comments about Therrien's system has brought out the knives on RDS. Max is being bashed for daring to question Therrien. This is the usual local media backlash when one of the 'gars de chez nous' gets criticized.

To me this looks like the players are sick and tired of Therrien's 'Play the right way' defensive system that leaves no room for offensive creativity.

And so it begins, Bergevin will start to reap what he sowed!
Pacioretty plan is working, they are not talking about Desharnais.

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11-19-2013, 05:42 PM
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Pacioretty plan is working, they are not talking about Desharnais.
Well actually, Michel Bergeron just said, what excuses does he have, he plays regularly with one of the best habs center in Desharnais loll

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11-19-2013, 05:44 PM
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Yes. Let's get Boucher. After all, the Lightnings are doing much worse without him...

Also; Patch for Yakupov
Ben Bishop says hello.

Boucher had **** for goaltending during his tenure.

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11-19-2013, 05:46 PM
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I don't understand the logic behind he can only be fired if there's a losing streak.
Actually, it also needs to be preceded by the dreaded kiss of death, where a GM reiterates his confidence in his head coach.

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11-19-2013, 05:49 PM
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Max's comments about Therrien's system has brought out the knives on RDS.
It's also due to Max not shutting his big mouth while he's not delivering. Would be more effective if he were at least performing at his usual levels. Absent that, he comes across as a hot air displacer and he definitely deserves getting called on it.

That doesn't excuse Therrien's own misgivings, however.

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Well actually, Michel Bergeron just said, what excuses does he have, he plays regularly with one of the best habs center in Desharnais loll
Really?


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11-19-2013, 05:56 PM
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I totally agree with the article. I had the same argument in another thread yesterday.

MG needs to realize that Therrien will destroy this team. He need to act fast before we have to trade good player who don't buy into MT crap (MaxPac).

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11-19-2013, 06:04 PM
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It's also due to Max not shutting his big mouth while he's not delivering. Would be more effective if he were at least performing at his usual levels. Absent that, he comes across as a hot air displacer and he definitely deserves getting called on it.

That doesn't excuse Therrien's own misgivings, however.
No he didn't. He called it how he sees it, nothing wrong with that.

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11-19-2013, 06:20 PM
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"Since the 2011-12 season, Bouillon has played 129:01 with the power play and has collected a single assist during that period. A SINGLE ASSIST."

That can't be real...
I approved of MT's hiring way back when, but his PP-related decisions speak volumes of stupidity to me. How stupid and blind must you be to realize that each time that Bouillon's on the man advantage, the entire unit dies. Why not trying something different, MT, you incompetent goof?! How about trying freaking Emelin who had more pts. at that time he got injured last season than Cube this season AND the last one combined? Why, MT?! Why?!

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I approved of MT's hiring way back when, but his PP-related decisions speak volumes of stupidity to me. How stupid and blind must you be to realize that each time that Bouillon's on the man advantage, the entire unit dies. Why not trying something different, MT, you incompetent goof?! How about trying freaking Emelin who had more pts. at that time he got injured last season than Cube this season AND the last one combined? Why, MT?! Why?!
up until last game, the other options were : Murray and Gorges.

hope he'll try Emelin eventually though, he's back now.

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11-19-2013, 06:28 PM
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Coaching has nothing to do with Desharnais Pacioretty doing squat and Eller going on a 3 week hiatus. A coach can only do so many things to get players going, at some point they need to do whatever it takes, score a garbage goal or two and get on a hot streak.
Sure, but the coaches job is optimize your chances at winning, playing Boullion on the PP and any combination of Boullion, Murray, diaz, protecting one goal leads is also counter productive towards this goal.

Therrien has been absolutely terrible.

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