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11-26-2013, 04:53 PM
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Man I seriously why you guys are looking for assets. Just liquidate Bourque and Desharnais for picks and we're set. We don't need anything up front or down low IMO.

Pacioretty-Briere-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Prust
Bournival-Plekanec-Gionta
Moen-White-Dumont/Parros.

Markov-Subban
Gorges-Emelin
Murray-Diaz

Ride or die with that, next year we'll have a TON of cap space for a true #1 line winger.
You're not going to get just picks for those guys, teams want money in-money out. Some for cap reasons others for budget reasons.

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11-26-2013, 04:58 PM
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GM dont make trades based on ONE week of play, it's only 3 games... come on now...


Erat has a larger cap hit, but shorter term...
Erat's been playing like crap since Washington acquired him.

MB invested a 4 year deal on DD, though I'm convinced his plan was to trade him at some point(year 2 or 3), I doubt he would dump him for a guy with negative value unless Washington eats some of the cap hit.

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Bourque and a pick for Matthias makes a lot of sense to me. Matthias is a bit underrated and for our 3rd line, he would be perfect. When I say underrated, I mean that it's extremely hard to produce in the panthers system. For the future, we need guys like Matthias, Bournival who are good enough to be top 6 but are more worthy as 3rd liners and can step in when there are injuries. Let's forget about playing Moen and Prust in our top 6.

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11-26-2013, 05:21 PM
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Erat's been playing like crap since Washington acquired him.

MB invested a 4 year deal on DD, though I'm convinced his plan was to trade him at some point(year 2 or 3), I doubt he would dump him for a guy with negative value unless Washington eats some of the cap hit.
and how DD has been playing since last season...

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11-26-2013, 05:24 PM
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Bourque for Mathias eh...well that Bourque + better be some fringe prospect or a late pick because I actually feel Bourque + a 3rd or higher is slightly over paying...but then again if you are in the position of disadvantage then one must over pay to acquire...but if it is Tallon who wants Bourque...then make then pay for him..

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and how DD has been playing since last season...
He was fine last year plus he is producing now, can't say the same for Erat who is not getting any better.

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11-26-2013, 06:29 PM
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Tonight on Insider Trading, Bob McKenzie mentioned teams are calling about Max Pacioretty, and while the Habs are not shopping him and do not want to trade him, they are listening. What would it take to pry Pac away from the Habs? For me it would take a lot.

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11-26-2013, 06:31 PM
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He was fine last year plus he is producing now, can't say the same for Erat who is not getting any better.
Pretty small sample to say that he's producing now. He still has less points than Erat.

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Tonight on Insider Trading, Bob McKenzie mentioned teams are calling about Max Pacioretty, and while the Habs are not shopping him and do not want to trade him, they are listening. What would it take to pry Pac away from the Habs? For me it would take a lot.
1st pairing dman(hi mcdonagh)/stud young forward(hi drouin)

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11-26-2013, 07:27 PM
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Tonight on Insider Trading, Bob McKenzie mentioned teams are calling about Max Pacioretty, and while the Habs are not shopping him and do not want to trade him, they are listening. What would it take to pry Pac away from the Habs? For me it would take a lot.
Package built around High skilled young player

Package built around 1st pairing defenseman under 30 years old .


More than likely the first option. If we remove an offensive weapon, we need to have it replaced.

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11-26-2013, 07:29 PM
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Tonight on Insider Trading, Bob McKenzie mentioned teams are calling about Max Pacioretty, and while the Habs are not shopping him and do not want to trade him, they are listening. What would it take to pry Pac away from the Habs? For me it would take a lot.
I'm a little bit cyncial about the intelligence level of NHL GMs in general. But even then, I can't imagine any of them giving up the overpayment it would take for me to move Pacioretty out of Montreal.

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11-26-2013, 07:30 PM
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We have neither buddy
What the Hell?

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11-26-2013, 07:34 PM
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A-S-S-E-T M-A-N-A-G-E-M-E-N-T

We have Tinoridi, don't need Morin.

We have Eller, don't need Couturier.

If we get rid of Gallagher, man we're going way backwords.
Not sure about that. I like the idea of Eller and Couturier as our two top centers for the futur. And Tinordi and Morin as a bone-crushing pair is too exciting to contemplate.

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11-26-2013, 07:40 PM
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Not sure about that. I like the idea of Eller and Couturier as our two top centers for the futur. And Tinordi and Morin as a bone-crushing pair is too exciting to contemplate.
Does Morin "crush bones"? He's big, but I've not seen him actually be notably physical?

I don't even like Beaulieu much, but I think I'd go with a reasonable Beaulieu >= Morin vote.

And Gallagher is part of our heart and soul going forward. Couturier is dramatically overrated on these boards, not close to Gallagher.

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Not sure about that. I like the idea of Eller and Couturier as our two top centers for the futur. And Tinordi and Morin as a bone-crushing pair is too exciting to contemplate.
seems like someone forgot number 27..

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11-26-2013, 07:49 PM
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seems like someone forgot number 27..
The jury is out if he can plays center in the NHL or not.

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ur trolling right?

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11-26-2013, 08:26 PM
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1st pairing dman(hi mcdonagh)/stud young forward(hi drouin)
in a ****ing heartbeat.....but other than something crazy like that....i dont want to send patches anywhere....the kids got heart....he keeps getting knocked down and he keeps coming back up....he wants to score on every shift.

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11-26-2013, 08:28 PM
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Tonight on Insider Trading, Bob McKenzie mentioned teams are calling about Max Pacioretty, and while the Habs are not shopping him and do not want to trade him, they are listening. What would it take to pry Pac away from the Habs? For me it would take a lot.
It'd take a lot. Pacioretty's contract is one of the best in the NHL.

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11-26-2013, 08:45 PM
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I'm a little bit cynical about the intelligence level of NHL GMs in general. But even then, I can't imagine any of them giving up the overpayment it would take for me to move Pacioretty out of Montreal.
MaxPac at 4.5M for 6 years.
  • 2010-11 Pace of 31 goals;
  • 2011-12 Scored 33 goals;
  • 2012-13 Pace of 28 goals;
  • 2013-14 Pace of 38 goals;
His ppg has been consistently improving.
They would have to overpay big time.

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11-26-2013, 08:54 PM
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The offers for MaxPac on the main boards are disgusting.

edit: On another note I would only trade Pacs for an overpayment, there's absolutely no reason for us to be trading him at this point in his career.

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Pacioretty is a 30 goals scorer with a 4,500,000$ cap hit. Who is his right mind would trade him for those 'offers' on the main board?

Sometimes I feel like Pacioretty signed to a smaller cap hit in order to help the Habs paying other players. He could have asked for 5.5-6 millions a year, easily.

Why would we trade him?

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11-26-2013, 09:03 PM
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The offers for MaxPac on the main boards are disgusting.

edit: On another note I would only trade Pacs for an overpayment, there's absolutely no reason for us to be trading him at this point in his career.
I lol'd at the Subban + Max Pac for Couture + Hertl offer.

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11-26-2013, 09:09 PM
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Matthias seems like he'd compliment our high-end 4th line players in Prust and Moen very well. I think I see him being more suited on the third line in some capacity but I'm not sure we have the high-end talent up front to make up for downgrading our 3-line system. In any case, I think he'd be a very good long-term addition to our team. Maybe not as exciting as some of the other rumours going around but White+ or something around Bourque would be a solid move IMO.

-Might be a little contentious to say but having a good, defensive centerman on our third line might make moving Plekanec a possibility.

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I love how on the trade board, any proposals for Evander Kane needed to start with PK Subban, but Pacioretty isn't even worth Voynov. Such absurdity.

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