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11-27-2013, 03:13 PM
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Because the team is going to keep shooting at 5%?
Against good teams? Maybe.

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11-27-2013, 03:31 PM
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I expect much better offense tonight. The Rangers do well against thomas usually. Ben Bishop always kills the rangers so i wasnt surprised we were shutout. Bishop and Price(until the last game in Montreal} always seem to beat the rangers

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11-27-2013, 04:05 PM
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I expect much better offense tonight. The Rangers do well against thomas usually. Ben Bishop always kills the rangers so i wasnt surprised we were shutout. Bishop and Price(until the last game in Montreal} always seem to beat the rangers
You make it sound like Bishop has been in the league for a decade.

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11-27-2013, 04:08 PM
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AV is finally going for the top 9 I've been clamoring for, let's hope Hagelin and Nash can rekindle their chemistry from last year.

Also, the Panthers are the only team with a lower 5v5 close PDO than the Rangers, I didn't think that was possible!

This should be a pretty easy win, but in the words of Sam Rosen "Hey, you never know!".
What is a 5v5 close PDO? Sounds dirty.

Also, those are actually the words of the New York State Lottery.

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You make it sound like Bishop has been in the league for a decade.
Yeah, I can't even remember the Rangers playing Ben Bishop before. Last year when Anderson went down? I remember him giving up 2 goals right away with at least one being a soft goal.

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11-27-2013, 04:11 PM
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AV is finally going for the top 9 I've been clamoring for, let's hope Hagelin and Nash can rekindle their chemistry from last year.

Also, the Panthers are the only team with a lower 5v5 close PDO than the Rangers, I didn't think that was possible!

This should be a pretty easy win, but in the words of Sam Rosen "Hey, you never know!".
LMAO! I can't hold it against you since you're not from NY, but you thinking that it's Sam Rosen randomly saying it on every broadcast is kinda funny and cute. Wouldn't it be weird if he just randomly said that every broadcast?

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What is a 5v5 close PDO? Sounds dirty.

Also, those are actually the words of the New York State Lottery.
Well I only hear Sam saying them!

PDO = Sh% + Sv%, always averages to 1000, regresses heavily to the mean. A low PDO is in most cases a sign of bad luck.

5v5 close: 5v5 play when the score is tied or within one goal in the 1st and second period. I.E. within one in the first two periods, and only when tied in the third. Used to eliminate score effects, as teams usually hang back when they are up by a few.

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No excuses tonight. This should be a W. Anyone else think Ben Bishop looked like Optimus Prime the other night? I mean the guy literally looks like a transformer. Damn pads were as tall as the net.

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LMAO! I can't hold it against you since you're not from NY, but you thinking that it's Sam Rosen randomly saying it on every broadcast is kinda funny and cute. Wouldn't it be weird if he just randomly said that every broadcast?
Of course I know it is from the lottery, but I only hear Sam saying them!

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Well I only hear Sam saying them!

PDO = Sh% + Sv%, always averages to 1000, regresses heavily to the mean. A low PDO is in most cases a sign of bad luck.

5v5 close: 5v5 play when the score is tied or within one goal in the 1st and second period. I.E. within one in the first two periods, and only when tied in the third. Used to eliminate score effects, as teams usually hang back when they are up by a few.

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Well I only hear Sam saying them!

PDO = Sh% + Sv%, always averages to 1000, regresses heavily to the mean. A low PDO is in most cases a sign of bad luck.

5v5 close: 5v5 play when the score is tied or within one goal in the 1st and second period. I.E. within one in the first two periods, and only when tied in the third. Used to eliminate score effects, as teams usually hang back when they are up by a few.
How is Sh% + Sv% not always 1.000?

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Anyone watch the "the bracket" show? These guys sound like idiots that are pandering to casual fans.

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How is Sh% + Sv% not always 1.000?
The league average is always 1.000, but the Rangers curretly have a worse Sh% than the opposition has had while playing the Rangers, ergo a sub 1000 PDO.

Colorado has been running a very high PDO to their record, a high Sh% and a high Sv%.

Toronto had a very high PDO last season.

Here is a table of the current 5v5 close PDO.

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Falk in, MDZ back out. Also, Dorsett sprained wrist - gametime call, if not, Pyatt.

According to the twitterverse.

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11-27-2013, 04:34 PM
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falk in, mdz back out. Also, dorsett sprained wrist - gametime call, if not, pyatt.

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The league average is always 1.000, but the Rangers curretly have a worse Sh% than the opposition has had while playing the Rangers, ergo a sub 1000 PDO.

Colorado has been running a very high PDO to their record, a high Sh% and a high Sv%.

Toronto had a very high PDO last season.

Here is a table of the current 5v5 close PDO.
Oh it takes into account the opposition. The reason I ask if it should add up to 1.000 is because if the Rangers have a 10% shooting percentage, doesn't that mean that the other team has a 90% save percentage? I guess I'm misunderstanding it. I guess it's your team's save percentage and not the other team's. If that's the case I don't see why it's a product of luck rather than a poor goalie and/or good chances allowed.

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How is Sh% + Sv% not always 1.000?
In all matches the home teams SH% is the visiting teams SAVE% and vice verca, hence equals 1000 inn all matches, and thereby the league as a whole.
The visiting teams SAVE% is not equal to the home teams SAVE% therefore so they can have different PDO in a match, and averages cross multiple matches.


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No, it's YOUR team's offense shooting % and YOUR goalies' save %. So they don't have to equal 100%.

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In all matches the home teams SH% is the visiting teams SAVE% and vice verca, hence equals 1000 inn all matches, and thereby the league as a whole.
That's what I thought, I think though it means team's shooting percentage AND save percentage. I don't understand why that should regress to the mean necessarily what if your goalie sucks and you allow quality saves. I feel like this is another one of those stats that takes shots a bit too seriously.

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That's what I thought, I think though it means team's shooting percentage AND save percentage. I don't understand why that should regress to the mean necessarily what if your goalie sucks and you allow quality saves. I feel like this is another one of those stats that takes shots a bit too seriously.
Agree. The fact that the average across the league is 1ooo, does not mean that every team will regress towards that mean. It's puck skill & luck.

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Agree. The fact that the average across the league is 1ooo, does not mean that every team will regress towards that mean. It's puck skill & luck.
In fact, unless the standard deviation were 0, that means some teams won't regress towards the mean. I don't see why our team with lack of finishers should.

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