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11-29-2013, 02:09 PM
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http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/Fig...x?Player=59645

Decent fighter that looks to have had a ridiculous turnaround in his game over the summer. He's also captain so I guess has dat 'character'.

How does he compare to Stefan Fournier?

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11-29-2013, 02:09 PM
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This would be a wasted signing. There are a bunch of better players in the CIS.

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11-29-2013, 02:31 PM
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Interesting. I have no recollection of him as a notable 4th liner even in the OHL. But if he's found a way to do more, it's intriguing. Habs went with a lot of that this summer, though, so it's time to be a bit more cautious. But if he's making a late move, hey, cool if you can identify these guys. I have no opinion, other than a general inclination towards caution at this time.

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some say he's the next Travis Moen lol

...long term it could help the 4th line...probably never but...who knows

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11-29-2013, 03:09 PM
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I would say he could be a good AHLer, like 30-40 pts and fringe NHL 4th liner. But you never know.

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11-29-2013, 03:11 PM
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Great of all the professional scouts here to tell us the future. Lotto numbers would be great while you guys are at it.

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11-29-2013, 03:16 PM
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Great of all the professional scouts here to tell us the future. Lotto numbers would be great while you guys are at it.
don't tell anyone:
6, 21, 29, 31, 35, 39.


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11-29-2013, 03:25 PM
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Prust skates bent over and he is built like a fridge doesn't look tall

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11-29-2013, 03:32 PM
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They are so many better undrafted players than him. This would be a waisted contract spot. Even offering him a AHL contract would generous. Bergevin probably likes his "attitude".

From what I saw of him on youtube, he lost almost all of his fights, but he definitely seems fearless and courageous, probably why he is wearing a "C" on his Charlottetown Islanders jersey's.


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Playing with Daniel Sprong can help a player being PPG
Most of the time, he doesn't play with Daniel Sprong though.

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Decent fighter that looks to have had a ridiculous turnaround in his game over the summer. He's also captain so I guess has dat 'character'.

How does he compare to Stefan Fournier?
He doesn't. Potential AHL warm body for me.

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11-29-2013, 04:50 PM
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Potential AHL goon.I'd rather have kept Aliu but I think this guy is more consistently physical.

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Jack Nevins will be a breath of fresh air for the players in Hamilton, a guy that gives his all every game and stands up for his teammates as well. The Habs prospects just gained some more character, toughness with hockey abilities.

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Potential AHL goon.I'd rather have kept Aliu but I think this guy is more consistently physical.
Goon?

Jack Nevins isn't a goon. He's not nearly to be a heavyweight fighter, an enforcer, or whatever you call that. An average AHL goon would tear up any opposition in the Q. Nevins is an average fighter in the Q.

Jack Nevins is closer to a Ryan White kind of player.

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some say he's the next Travis Moen lol

...long term it could help the 4th line...probably never but...who knows
I never really bothered to look at Moen's numbers in the juniors, BUT..

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=45163

By comparison, here are the numbers of some random 4th liners - fringe Top-9 :

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=42428 -- Konopka
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=80499 -- R. White
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=81671 -- Zack Smith
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=55300 -- Gregory Campbell
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=62619 -- Nick Tarnasky


Conclusion : Is it me, or Moen has come a LONG way? And it's not like he's a pure enforcer either.

Like, is there a non-enforcer forward who played over that many games (over 600 games) who had so LITTLE success?

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Goon?

Jack Nevins isn't a goon. He's not nearly to be a heavyweight fighter, an enforcer, or whatever you call that. An average AHL goon would tear up any opposition in the Q. Nevins is an average fighter in the Q.

Jack Nevins is closer to a Ryan White kind of player.
If you look at my answer below, you'll see that White was also a pretty good junior player. If my memory doesn't fail, he was ranked in the Top-30 on his draft year.

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Decent fighter that looks to have had a ridiculous turnaround in his game over the summer. He's also captain so I guess has dat 'character'.

How does he compare to Stefan Fournier?
Fournier is more "skilled" offensively. Nevins is very simple: forechecks, backchecks, hits hard and often, fights (and he actually draws/wins the majority of those fights, against top HW), works hard, blocks shots, crashes the net/goalie. I don't know his potential since he is a big surprise this season. He could become pretty much anything from an ECHLer to Brandon Prust... But since the future is already known, I would say that he should become a bottom-6 foward in the AHL with a few games in the NHL in his prime, in a bad team. As a Habs fan, I would like Nevins to have an AHL contract, not a NHL two-way deal.


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Goon?

Jack Nevins isn't a goon. He's not nearly to be a heavyweight fighter, an enforcer, or whatever you call that. An average AHL goon would tear up any opposition in the Q. Nevins is an average fighter in the Q.

Jack Nevins is closer to a Ryan White kind of player.
Not the junior player that White was, but I agree.

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Hey, I don't say he is a NHLer for sure, but with his learning curve and his work ethic, I wouldn't count him out.
This. I don't mind that Montreal is giving a serious look to captains around the Q. Nevin, like Fournier, ain't bad, and no one will half-ass themselves past either of them at any training camp. Both are hard workers with well-rounded "poor man's _______" skills sets.

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11-29-2013, 05:34 PM
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Ryan White was 10 times the junior player Nevins currently is.

Nevins could not even stick in the Ohl.

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11-29-2013, 05:36 PM
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Jack Nevins will be a breath of fresh air for the players in Hamilton, a guy that gives his all every game and stands up for his teammates as well. The Habs prospects just gained some more character, toughness with hockey abilities.
So yes we have established he has character. And he can fight. And he's taller than DD or Briere. And that he maybe doesnt have NHL talent to be in MTL. Well 3 out of 4 aint bad.

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Ryan White was 10 times the junior player Nevins currently is.

Nevins could not even stick in the Ohl.
Sure but he has progressed a lot since his OHL days, that's the point.

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Nevins could not even stick in the Ohl.
Another case like that....

Tyler Gaudet wasn't able to hold on to a spot a VERY WEAK Gatineau squad. Was, at some point, a regular with the team, and is, at this point, possibly the worst regular I ever saw in the Olympiques roster (only, im in the region since only 5 years...).

He signed a contract with the Coyotes recently, and is actually 1 PPG with SSMarie. And isn't a physical player, as opposed to Nevins.

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Ryan White was 10 times the junior player Nevins currently is.
Ryan White in his last junior season was 72pts in 68 games.

But yeah. I was more talking about potential. Jack Nevins has the potential to be a Ryan White alike player. Chances are he doesn't liv up to that potential...

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He's similar to Moen. He won't add up that many points, but he'll be solid and he'll FIGHT.

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He's similar to Moen. He won't add up that many points, but he'll be solid and he'll FIGHT.
Don't put too much emphasis on his fighting skills... average junior fighters usually become poor fighters in the AHL/NHL. And he doesn't fight all that much, he fights exactly once every 4 games in the juniors, which isn't all that much, really...

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