HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Team toughness

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-29-2013, 08:34 AM
  #626
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by trilobyte View Post
The Rangers did not bother to step into the way of the Lightning the other night. They left their hitting game behind. Hitting to impede the opposition is core to the game of hockey. Hitting gets you into the game and increases your chances of winning.
It's part of hockey 101 and not to even be debated at this level.
No, drafting small inconsistent players is the way to go...we are great at drafting those players.

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 09:24 AM
  #627
surf
Wheres the Reggae?
 
surf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: sea bright nj
Country: United States
Posts: 1,392
vCash: 500
In a weird way a game like today could prove a lot of us right...In Boston with a tissue soft line up and not one scrapper...Sure none of this matters until we get another star concussed...I forgot we have Boyle who has a mean stare and gets ballsey when two refs are in between him and an ass kicking

surf is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 01:48 PM
  #628
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Poor Boyle...too bad Dorsett wasn't there to protect him. Good thing we are plenty tough though.

Does AV still not know how we match up against the teams in the East. I got a idea...let's trade for Erat or Mouslon.

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 01:54 PM
  #629
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,804
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orr Nightmare View Post
Poor Boyle...too bad Dorsett wasn't there to protect him. Good thing we are plenty tough though.

Does AV still not know how we match up against the teams in the East. I got a idea...let's trade for Erat or Mouslon.
Its a good thing Boyle losing a fight didn't count as a goal against! Whew!!!

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:09 PM
  #630
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Its a good thing Boyle losing a fight didn't count as a goal against! Whew!!!
No it just demoralizes your team.

Can't wait until we trade Del Zotto for Mike Cammalleri or Brian Gionta. Are you upset I thought about those trade ideas before u?

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:17 PM
  #631
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,804
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orr Nightmare View Post
No it just demoralizes your team.

Can't wait until we trade Del Zotto for Mike Cammalleri or Brian Gionta. Are you upset I thought about those trade ideas before u?
No, I get upset when anyone thinks professional athletes could be so mentally weak that a fight demoralizes them. This toughness thing is an obsession with you - you are the equivalent of a one-issue "low information" voter

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:25 PM
  #632
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
No, I get upset when anyone thinks professional athletes could be so mentally weak that a fight demoralizes them. This toughness thing is an obsession with you - you are the equivalent of a one-issue "low information" voter
Yes, you are right. I am miss informed. I want 20 goons and nothing more. You on the other hand have your finger on the pulse with this team.

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:29 PM
  #633
Jackson Ranger
Registered User
 
Jackson Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 2,571
vCash: 500
They are getting physically abused by the Bruins today.

Jackson Ranger is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:29 PM
  #634
BrooklynRangersFan
Change is good.
 
BrooklynRangersFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn of course
Country: United States
Posts: 10,152
vCash: 500
Don't people understand that the Rangers think they have their enforcer playing HFD right now? No need to trade valuable assets for a one-dimensional thug - McIlrath will be here before the end of the season.

Another finisher or, better yet, a young power center is a much bigger need.

BrooklynRangersFan is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:30 PM
  #635
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Chara spanks Boyle they dominate play since..

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:32 PM
  #636
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
No, I get upset when anyone thinks professional athletes could be so mentally weak that a fight demoralizes them. This toughness thing is an obsession with you - you are the equivalent of a one-issue "low information" voter
Erat would make a huge difference and his 5.5 million dollar salary would slid right in with all the horse **** salaries on this team.

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:32 PM
  #637
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,804
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orr Nightmare View Post
Chara spanks Boyle they dominate play since..
They were dominating play long before that. I know its your MO to make things up, but Im gonna call you on your BS.

The Bruins are just a better team -- it has little to do with toughness.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:34 PM
  #638
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
They were dominating play long before that. I know its your MO to make things up, but Im gonna call you on your BS.

The Bruins are just a better team -- it has little to do with toughness.
Doc Emrick just said Bruins are willing themselves to a win what does that mean exactly, doctor?

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:35 PM
  #639
Trxjw
Moderator
Bored.
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Land of no calls..
Country: United States
Posts: 16,440
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
They were dominating play long before that. I know its your MO to make things up, but Im gonna call you on your BS.

The Bruins are just a better team -- it has little to do with toughness.
Agreed about the play being dominated well before that fight.

Trxjw is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:36 PM
  #640
Jackson Ranger
Registered User
 
Jackson Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Country: United States
Posts: 2,571
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
They were dominating play long before that. I know its your MO to make things up, but Im gonna call you on your BS.

The Bruins are just a better team -- it has little to do with toughness.
The Bruins are a better team but they are doing it with skill AND toughness. Lucic and Thornton are having their way with the Rangers.

Jackson Ranger is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:36 PM
  #641
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
[QUOTE=Bleed Ranger Blue;75220167]They were dominating play long before that. I know its your MO to make things up, but Im gonna call you on your BS.

The Bruins are just a better team -- it has little to do with toughness.

How does it feel to always be right, must be great.

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:40 PM
  #642
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,804
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orr Nightmare View Post
Doc Emrick just said Bruins are willing themselves to a win what does that mean exactly, doctor?
The word that you are looking for that this team is lacking isn't toughness, its intensity.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:42 PM
  #643
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson Ranger View Post
The Bruins are a better team but they are doing it with skill AND toughness. Lucic and Thornton are having their way with the Rangers.
Toughness is so overrated and blase

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:44 PM
  #644
Orr Nightmare
Registered User
 
Orr Nightmare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
The word that you are looking for that this team is lacking isn't toughness, its intensity.
Again, you are correct and whom do you suggest the Rangers should target or is there makeup intense enough

Orr Nightmare is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:52 PM
  #645
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,804
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orr Nightmare View Post
Again, you are correct and whom do you suggest the Rangers should target or is there makeup intense enough
I dont think there any magic bullet. Its a team mentality. This team has lost it, gradually, over the past 2 seasons.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:52 PM
  #646
SingnBluesOnBroadway
Retired
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 29,806
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Orr Nightmare View Post
whom do you suggest the Rangers should target
A new GM

__________________
SingnBluesOnBroadway is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 02:54 PM
  #647
HatTrick Swayze
Tomato Potato
 
HatTrick Swayze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 9,296
vCash: 500
It's not the fighting. The Rangers were just completely overmatched physically. If you can't win battles to get the puck, or to make a play with the puck, against top teams...does it really even matter how good your hands are? Or the amount of skilled plays you can make to rack up pretty points against bottom feeder teams?

Yes, SOME skilled teams can get away with not being physical. The ones that have generational talents lining up at forward. Save for that, you need a mix of skill and truculence through the lineup. The Rangers are woefully lacking in the latter.

__________________
"Here we can see the agression of american people. They love fighting and guns. when they wont win they try to kill us all." -HalfOfFame
HatTrick Swayze is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 03:19 PM
  #648
eco's bones
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Elmira NY
Country: United States
Posts: 12,378
vCash: 500
The Bruins are very good--they are also very tough. It's part of their DNA. The Rangers can be very good--but they're not very tough. It's an advantage for the Bruins when the two teams meet up. It's one reason why they knocked us out of the playoffs last year. There are other reasons such as they've got three great point shots--Chara, Boychuk and Krug to our 0. They have a much better 4th line--one that's been playing together for a while. They look more like a team--players that mesh together better than ours do. Rangers have a problem with Lucic setting up in front of our net. Falk gave him a good shot today but--that's been an ongoing problem for a while. They've got 5 guys (who can all play) who can drop the gloves--Lucic, Chara, McQuaid, Thornton and Campbell. We have one guy Dorsett who is smaller than all of them and maybe Falk who's not in the lineup all the time.

eco's bones is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 03:28 PM
  #649
Pastafazul*
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 357
vCash: 500
don't know if anyone brought this up..... ONCE AGAIN, our best player, NASH, gets knocked over, after defending himself admirably against his guy, , then another bruins player comes over knocks both of them down and there is no ranger player in sight......

Pastafazul* is offline  
Old
11-29-2013, 03:34 PM
  #650
pld459666
Registered User
 
pld459666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Danbury, CT
Country: United States
Posts: 16,177
vCash: 873
Quote:
Originally Posted by HatTrick Swayze View Post
It's not the fighting. The Rangers were just completely overmatched physically. If you can't win battles to get the puck, or to make a play with the puck, against top teams...does it really even matter how good your hands are? Or the amount of skilled plays you can make to rack up pretty points against bottom feeder teams?

Yes, SOME skilled teams can get away with not being physical. The ones that have generational talents lining up at forward. Save for that, you need a mix of skill and truculence through the lineup. The Rangers are woefully lacking in the latter.
there are some that do not see this.

I for one see it and have seen it. for a while.

pld459666 is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.